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WXLK Roanoke and WKRR Greensboro on same frequency...BUT HOW?!?!

Some additional history

I was actually born in Rocky Mount, VA and as a kid, my first home was virtually in the shadow of WYTI's old tower (on Business 220 North at the intersection where the Middle School is now...I lived on Allman Road, the dead end street just off of State Street). I listened to WYTI (which was top-40 at the time, I think...I remember winning the Eagles "Tequila Sunrise" 45 from them) but I never recalled listening to WKWS. I moved to Christiansburg just before third grade when my father's job at Virginia Tech got transferred from their facility on the Blackwater River to the campus in Blacksburg.

My first radio job (besides the student station at Virginia Tech) was at WFNR-AM in Christiansburg, but after college (and a WFNR format change) I wound up at WODY in Bassett. It was a country/bluegrass/gospel station at the time. I lasted about nine months there until landing at WNLB in Rocky Mount. I eventually wound up in Roanoke at the old WSLC-AM before moving to the northeastern Maryland/Northern Delaware area where I work and live now.

As for WNLB, it wasn't a horrible station when I worked there (I have no memory of WKWS except for some of the complaint letters in the files the WNLB management showed me after they bought the station in the mid-70s and updated the station's sound). I wanted to work there because they sounded so much better than where I was at the time. WODY in Bassett (where I was working) had a following, although most of the listeners were very old and a young guy out of college like me clashed with the format and to a certain degree with the management. I don't want to say that WODY was a bad station, but I was a real fish out of water there. It's was my first real lesson in radio (and the first blow to my ego) where I thought my influence could update the image and sound of the station but the management wasn't interested in doing such a thing. WNLB had the more modern contemporary country format I was used to doing in the New River Valley and I thought they were programmed very well so I really wanted to work there and pestered them enough to hire me. They were a good station although they certainly weren't aimed at the Ferrum College students. I wasn't necessarily a country music guy when I got started in radio, it's just that the first job offer I received was at a country station so that's where my radio career wound up heading to.


> > The history may be a bit sketchy here, since I moved away
> > from Southwestern Virginia in '92, but it was around '92
> > when WZBB moved the country from the AM to the FM and they
>
> > put a satellite oldies format on 1290 and changed the
> calls
> > to WFYN. I don't remember the year they moved the studios
>
> > from Rocky Mount to Bassett Forks, but I believe it was at
>
> > that point they let the AM station go dark. I think I was
>
> > told they actually offered the 1290 frequency to WYTI when
>
> > WYTI moved into the old WZBB/WNLB studios, but WYTI
> > preferred to remain at 1570.
> Sorry--I can't let this discussion pass without talking
> about my experience in the "Rocky Mount-Roanoke-Martinsburg"
> radio market. I attended Ferrum (Junior) College from
> 1966-68. For those of us from Richmond, Tidewater, or
> Northern Virginia, the radio scene there was quite a shock.
> After a few weeks of snooping around, we found there were
> certain "hot spots" in the dorms where WROV-AM could be
> recieved quite well during the daytime. Those rooms were
> highly sought after and hard to get. At night there was
> nothing except FM which at the time was a new concept except
> for those students from NOVA who were already familiar with
> WPGC-FM. From Roanoke we recieved two FMs, both coming in
> like gangbusters, even in the basement rooms---WDBJ-FM (now
> WSLC) which simucasted WDBJ-AM (now WFIR), and WSLS-FM (now
> WSLQ) which played automated "Beautiful Music." 92.3
> (WJLQ?)was also on the air from Roanoke with beautiful music
> but was never recievable in Ferrum. We listened to WMVA-FM
> (now WROV-FM), which was a 100% simucast of WMVA/1450, a lot
> at night. WMVA at the time was dayparted and played top 40
> at night. WMVA was a very small-town operation, but the
> fidelity of the music was spectacular. You have to
> remember, the only other way to get music, was to play
> records--the eight track had not even come in big yet. We
> had to have our Beatles, Motown, protest songs, etc., so
> WMVA-FM was very important. Also, they aired NBC news at
> the top of every hour--I can remember hearing all of the
> troubling news of the day on those newscasts. I can
> remember WKWS, later known as WNLB (THe country Giant), and
> WYTI (The Mighty Whitey). Both were horrible, horrible
> stations that nobody at the college would never listen to.
> I remember returning to the campus in the early 80s and
> doing an automatic scan on my FM car radio. Dozens of
> strong stations came up, including the wonderful K-92 and
> many stations from the Triad. I remember wondering what it
> would be like to attend Ferrum and recieve all those great
> stations---how times change. Sorry for the long post...
>
 
Re: WKRR History in Asheboro - Level Cross site

Matt, You've pretty much nailed it. Although the WKRR tower is on a standalone site,there are numerous towers along that stretch of 220 as you head south including the Channel 2 tower which also has Channel 48 and WMAG on the 2,000 ft stick. Then there's also the tower for 100.3 at just over 1,000 ft., which I believe has the Lexington TV station on it. Then there's the WKRR tower and the Channel 8 stick before you hit Asheboro.


> > I have heard of the WKRR tower site from an engineer
> friend,
> > though I'm not familiar with the area. It's at Level
> Cross,
> > right?
>
> Correct!
>
> > Is this a tower farm?
>
> I think it's solely WKRR's site.
>
> > What's WKRR's history? It was an Asheboro station(and
> still
> > licensed to)...when did its "presence" move out of
> Asheboro?
>
> I don't know all of the history, but it started out as
> WGWR-FM, simulcasting Asheboro sister station WGWR's block
> programming.
>
> It was in the early 70's when they boosted the station's
> power to (I think) 50,000 watts, separated programming from
> WGWR, took on the call letters WCSE and played country
> music.
>
> During this time, much of the station's income came from its
> affiliation with Raleigh's Capitol Broadcasting Company.
> WCSE's subcarrier was used to relay Capitol's background
> music format, and the station's main channel was the central
> NC relay station for the North Carolina News Network,
> another service of CBC. The station would ALWAYS use an
> instrumental up to network news at :55, at XX:54:57 a relay
> would take the station's board dead for 3 seconds and then
> switch to a receiver set on WRAL in Raleigh for the network
> news. It would do the reverse after the news and then put
> the station's board back on the air. I well remember
> hearing the WCSE ID coming across stations that took the
> NCNN feed from them, before some slack board operator would
> get back from the can.
>
> In the early-80's (I'm thinking 1982) when they went 100K,
> moved the studios to the triad and adopted an AOR format.
> At the time, WKZL was AOR. WKRR trounced them, bought them
> and changed the format...then moved WKRR's studios into
> WKZL's digs.
>
> Perhaps someone else can refine my dates a bit...stuff from
> the 70's is getting a bit fuzzy for me.
>
> Later...
> Matt Smith, Station Manager
> WGSR-TV "Star-39"
> Reidsville, NC
>
 
Re: WKRR History in Asheboro - Level Cross site

> Matt, You've pretty much nailed it. Although the WKRR tower
> is on a standalone site,there are numerous towers along that
> stretch of 220 as you head south including the Channel 2
> tower which also has Channel 48 and WMAG on the 2,000 ft
> stick. Then there's also the tower for 100.3 at just over
> 1,000 ft., which I believe has the Lexington TV station on
> it. Then there's the WKRR tower and the Channel 8 stick
> before you hit Asheboro.

There is a new tower at Level Cross which I think is the tallest of all the towers in the area, about 2000 ft. It is a "candelabra" which holds: WTWB-TV/DT ("The Lexington station," WUPN-TV/DT (no longer on the channel 2 tower), and WXLV-DT. I think WXLV-TV was also supposed to move there, but I guess SINclair got too cheap since analog will only be us a few more years. And, isn't FOX 8 building a new, slightly taller tower at their present location off 220?
 
Re: WKRR History in Asheboro - Level Cross site

> > Matt, You've pretty much nailed it. Although the WKRR
> tower
> > is on a standalone site,there are numerous towers along
> that
> > stretch of 220 as you head south including the Channel 2
> > tower which also has Channel 48 and WMAG on the 2,000 ft
> > stick. Then there's also the tower for 100.3 at just over
> > 1,000 ft., which I believe has the Lexington TV station on
>
> > it. Then there's the WKRR tower and the Channel 8 stick
> > before you hit Asheboro.
>
> There is a new tower at Level Cross which I think is the
> tallest of all the towers in the area, about 2000 ft. It is
> a "candelabra" which holds: WTWB-TV/DT ("The Lexington
> station," WUPN-TV/DT (no longer on the channel 2 tower),
> and WXLV-DT. I think WXLV-TV was also supposed to move
> there, but I guess SINclair got too cheap since analog will
> only be us a few more years. And, isn't FOX 8 building a
> new, slightly taller tower at their present location off
> 220?
>

Yes, there is. One of the station's engineers used to work with me at the ol' WBIG-FM and mentioned that to me several months ago.
I'm surprised WXLV would have their tower that far south as they are licensed to W-S and their present site is on Sauertown Mtn., although I always thought that site wasn't all that great for covering the market..but that was back when TVX bought it from the Piece Goods Shop people who hasd their transmitter atop the old Wachovia Bldg.
 
per 1962 fm stations are an interesting lot. Look at 94.7 Arrow in the Washington D.C. area and WRDX in Dover, Delaware. Both are non-da and it's 65 miles tower to tower. That's less spacing then Class A to Class A. When ducting occurs WRDX gets wiped out in the Wilmington area. Look at 100.3 in Washington, Philly and New York. Also 99.5 in Washington and Wilmington. If the FCC had any guts, they would do away with Grandfathering, and make these stations conform to the current rules. These stations overlap each other, but adjacent stations and allocations have to protect them.
 
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