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WYRV-AM (770) Cedar Bluff, VA on at night, interfering with WABC
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FYI, I've heard that WABC doesn't have a chief engineer at the moment. I have no idea who their backup would be, either.
No they didn't. I forget the the exact miles but if you were not a certain distance from a 50KW non directional night station you couldn't get any meaningful night time power.*. I forget which station it was but they had 20 Watts. They just signed off a sunset. Also I believe if you were /are on a Canadian Clear channel basically north of the Mason Dixon line you almost still have to build a directional plant..
*The owner of 770 Young Harris Ga couldn't even get 250 watts in a directional pattern. His consulting engineer said he was too close to WABC.
IIRC some of the old regional channel stations did get over 100 watts flea power.
AFAIK the only station on 770 kHz East of the Mississippi other than WABC with nighttime authorization is WEW in St. Louis, MO, which was licensed for 1 kW daytime-only, but now has a CP to upgrade to 10 kW daytime and 115 watts nighttime, directional towards the Southwest. They previously had a CP for 200 watts nighttime, but that never got built.
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Spoke to someone at the Statesville, NC phone # this morning. I asked if this was the company that runs WYRV? Without a yes or no, she said I needed to talk to "Billy," who was on the air, and for me to call back after 10. I told her why I was calling, gave her the whole bit about their AM interfering with WABC, she said she'd relay the message. A few minutes later, I got a text (from Billy, I assume), telling me they had just gotten the station back up but that they had not yet received all their equipment. No excuse! I told him even if they have to send someone to the transmitter to physically shut it off at sundown, it has to be done. Interesting that WYRV doesn't seem to have any way to contact the station in Cedar Bluff, VA -- you have to call Statesville, NC.
Wow. Young Harris, GA? Heard them before, been a while. I believe they were Southern Gospel last time I heard them,affiliated with what at that time, was called Solid Gospel, but I believe it's now called Singing News Radio. Seems like WKRK, Murphy (sp), NC was/is affiliated somewhat with SNR.
Glad you were able to get a hold of the folk in Statesville. Unfortunately, these days, most stations don't have a local presence, that is, someone in the COL. No excuse, re: the station transmitter being shut down at the proper time, but, as a friend told me about something else a while back, it is what it is.
Once again folks aren't thinking. Get a burner cellphone or VOIP "phone" to control their VA operation. I know the FCC is letting folks play fast and lose with studio requirements or even having a studio but not being able to control the transmitter remotely is a bit much. Most likely the remote controller had sign on sign off programed.
For the record, WYHG-AM licensed to Young Harris, GA, was deleted by the FCC on 11/10/2011. See
List of AM radio stations deleted from the FCC database
List of deleted USA AM radio stations
mesamike.org
(Though not an official FCC site, I use it because you can easily read it using a screenreader. As far as I know, Mesa Mike's list is accurate, if not always up-to-date.)
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AD Frazier bought the station in the early 2000s as part of his Wolf Creek Country network which included 1400 Copper Hill and 1340(?) licensed to a little town just north of Clayton (Mountain City). All three AMs were ran out of Copper Hill. The 2007 2008 housing recession really hit north Georgia hard and made an unlikely "network" impossible to run. He also got the Young Harris 95.1 class A FM license which is the only station left on the air.
I'm sure someone will correct me but I do remember reading somewhere that to have any nighttime service on an assigned U.S. clear channel frequency, your station's transmitter has to be at least 750 miles away from the transmitter of the clear channel station.
The county has about 40 k population. Use to be a coal mining region. I guess they finally figured out that coal employment will never be as good as it was last century, and found other things to do like Marion did.
Back when I worked in radio, our transmitter (hence COL) was the next town over, like ten minutes away. I remember a few times (not too many) where I had to call the transmitter from home, to sign on or off. Most of the time, it was done from the station, of course. Then there were the times when I had to spoonfeed the Nautel (sp) during a storm, argh, but it had to be done, to stay on the air.
I remember Wolf Creek. A dear friend at the time, was Pastor of a church that had an LPFM on 95.1. Subsequently, they had to move to 104.3 and never recovered, several factors. Got some IDs from Wolf Creek's stations recorded in the area, back during my ID collecting days, on tapes, somewhere. I remember one Sunday morning, 770 going from a song that I'd consider a wicked hard-rocking Oldies song, into a local preacher, talk about contrast, but anyway. On one of those IDs (the FM), is their slogan at the time, The Best Mix In The Sticks, never liked that slogan.
I am not directly involved with any PSSA station, so I didn't know the rules. That being said, I thought possibly they were running a flea power PSSA. Guess I was mistaken on that.
*one of only two towers i ever climbed was in Young Harris, GA. The station was WZEL then, owned by GA Lt Governor Zell Miller. I don't remember the frequency, so I'm not sure it was the same station.
@ ted chittenden
Thanx for that interesting link.
There are other states with some higher casualty figures, of course. But I was surprised to see the three states I've considered my 'turfs' throughout the years have so many FCC books closed -- 4 in Massachusetts, 10 in PA, and 18 in Florida -- since 2020 alone!
I can't locate the first reasonably Big One's exit. That was a stunner, some 20 years ago, when full-time regional WHLM Bloomsburg PA on the almost-obscene frequency of 550 shut down and the company went with its FM.
As you can fancy, the high end of the AM dial hasn't been kind to listenership at all. Locals I couldn't locate include 1450, 1480, 1530 and 1590, which have gone down like sequential tumbling dominos.
Even as a far more casual DXer here in NEPA I've been able to log a total of 20 new 'catches' from those four frequencies alone. The DX quest, however benign as it's become, has benefited. I'm saddened at that huge list, though.
Thanx for that interesting link.
There are other states with some higher casualty figures, of course. But I was surprised to see the three states I've considered my 'turfs' throughout the years have so many FCC books closed -- 4 in Massachusetts, 10 in PA, and 18 in Florida -- since 2020 alone!
I can't locate the first reasonably Big One's exit. That was a stunner, some 20 years ago, when full-time regional WHLM Bloomsburg PA on the almost-obscene frequency of 550 shut down and the company went with its FM.
As you can fancy, the high end of the AM dial hasn't been kind to listenership at all. Locals I couldn't locate include 1450, 1480, 1530 and 1590, which have gone down like sequential tumbling dominos.
Even as a far more casual DXer here in NEPA I've been able to log a total of 20 new 'catches' from those four frequencies alone. The DX quest, however benign as it's become, has benefited. I'm saddened at that huge list, though.