PaulRAnderson said:
BRNout said:
Besides that discussion is moot because Derry is just as much in the market as Newton is.
I live in southern New Hampshire. We don't shop in Massachusetts. We read the Telegraph or Union Leader--not the Globe--and even have our own governor and other politicians (!). We are curious about the Boston TV stations we are forced to watch (thank goodness for WMUR) and the goings on in places we don't know about and will never visit. Personally, I don't consider myself near Boston in any way.
Besides, Newton is 8 miles from Boston while Derry is 39 miles. Bit of a difference.
Paul
Being originally from southern NH, I know a little about this too. I never shopped in MA either (taxes and surly service being the main factors). And I share your sentiment about avoiding Boston whenever possible. Then again, the behavior patterns in southern NH with regard to Boston are not much different that what I now see from my new home in the suburbs well NW of Chicago with regard to Chicago proper (and we shop locally in Lake county instead of Cook because of high taxes there...not unlike when I lived in NH).
But the main metro area in which Nashua, Derry and Salem sit is still Boston and huge percentages of people in southern NH work south of the border. Tons of "Massh*les" have moved there in search of more affordable housing. The Boston Globe still has substantial subscription sales in southern NH and people from NH go to Boston when they want a night out in the city. With regard to your comment about the Union Leader and Telegraph, that means nothing. People south of Boston get the Enterprise and in Worcester County get the Worcester Telegram and Gazette. They favor those papers over the Globe too - because local news is the main reason for their subscriptions. Those examples are representative of a sub-set of the larger metropolitan area. Yeah, you live in a different state with a different governor, etc. (though sadly less and less different as time goes on). And people from New Jersey and CT have different governors than NY, yet Newark and Stamford are well within the New York Metro area.
When I needed to travel somewhere that Southwest didn't fly, I had to go to Boston Logan. When I did fly Southwest from Manchester (which I preferred), a substantial percentage of my fellow passengers came from Boston and other MA towns north of Boston. Manchester-Boston Regional Airport would be nothing more than a puddle-jump stop if it were not for that proximity as a 'secondary' airport. "Downtown" generally meant Boston. And it was (and is) generally a pain in the butt to get there. But that's no different than it is for someone from Worcester - which is farther from Boston than Derry is.
Most importantly, Hillsborough and Rockingham counties are parts of the Boston designated metropolitan statistical area. When considered in the context of this thread (television), Derry and Newton are basically in the same pot with the exception of WMUR - which is an anomaly.
If Manchester ever got its own TV market, that would all change. But that will probably never happen. Unless it does, WZMY is entitled to market itself as a "Boston" station unless it chooses to super-serve southern New Hampshire. Frankly, it irked me to be stuck with only 2 NFL games on doubleheader Sundays when the Pats were home (yet Providence viewers weren't) - but that's how it is because you live in the Boston DMA if you live in Derry. And I have several friends who live there and they all commute to Boston or its near northern suburbs.