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XM and Sirius Merger

They Should keep xm 60s the way it is, add Cousin Brucie, delete sirius 60s.
keep sirius 80s the way it is, delete xm 80s, keep sirius 70s, delete xm 70s.

Thats the only way I will keep my XM and sirius!
 
These aree trhe BEST CHANNELS ON XM (IMO)

62 - Suite 62
42 - Liquid metal (BLOWS SIRUS'S METAL STREAM AWAY)
BIG TRACKS (forgot the channel numba) - A club977 clone (But better!!)

BEST SIRIUS CHANNELS

100/101 - Howard stern :)
 
Based on only the info released before the merger, about the post merger packages, I am fairly certain that Mel plans to delete The Weather Channel from XM 125, and combine it, Sirius-style, into one "Weather/Emergency" channel on XM 247. Perhaps 247 gets a minor quality upgrade in the bargain, perhaps not. 247 would probably still be part of the Weather Channel radio network, just not a full time nothing but the weather channel. (Although XM actually now makes this channel subject to preemption in case of sports.)
 
The Dude said:
These aree trhe BEST CHANNELS ON XM (IMO)

62 - Suite 62 * very gold based but i love that channel

BEST SIRIUS CHANNELS

100/101 - Howard stern :)
please add these 2 channels i will be a happy man

and keep XMLM
 
I've never had the chance to sample the Sirius channels. I hope they'll add them to XM radio online so I can.
I love the current XM decade channels and wouldn't want to see them go.
 
I have XM and I really dont listen to the talk channels. I hope they do keep POTUS 08. We have XM for the music mostly though. I figure they may merge some channels, but I hope they dont. One thing they should do is to return The Flow to a channel that is part of the regular line up.
 
salemjedi54 said:
I hope they do keep POTUS 08.

POTUS is only temp 'til the election so it'll be gone anyway, I doubt they keep it around after as they have C-SPAN to take care of the Washington politico-news

Sirius XM won't ditch a bunch of channels, this is subscription satellite radio, not free AM/FM where you can do that sort of thing (in ditching a format). If you axe a bunch of stations on XM/Sirius you get your (paying) customer based ticked off and that hurts the bottom line.
 
My concern is quality. While it's unlikely that they will "dump" formats, with good ol' Uncle Mel in control, they will go for the cheap whenever they can. I have both XM & Sirius, and in my opinion XM has much deeper libraries, and they do much more live material. Sirius is voicetracked to the max. I expect for them to take the cheapest way out, because they won't need to worry about quality or any sort of "extra" touches. Now that there's only one choice, and you want satellite radio...well, buyer beware.
 
That's pretty much exactly how I feel, and what I'm afraid of. I guess we'll see...
 
Want to get sat radio service, mainly for progressive talk, which is not offered on a Pittsburgh station. Should I wait until after the merger? If not, which service should I go with? When will be merger take effect?
 
I got the Best of Sirius with my XM subscription now. They are not doing a-la-cart off Sirius yet. The main thing that I will listen to is NFL games on the Sirius channels I purchased since I am a dedicated Saints fan. No more of tuning in to the local station simucasting Saints games (which is some distance from where I live) No more tuning in to WWL (which I can get but is 170 miles from where I live).When the TV station goes to Digital and I can't get my local Fox Affiliate (in Central Mississippi it is Fox40) I can listen to the game on my XM radio. And even though I will not listen to anything else I got (including Howard Stern and Playboy Channel) I hope that soon I can get other channels that I want instead of the channels they are pushing down our throats.
 
TheBigA said:
dxer720 said:
Terestrial radio's biggest advantage over satellite is localism, but they don't seem to want to use it.

I really wish I knew where this myth got started.

More than half of the radio stations in this country are local all the time. In fact, I'd suggest radio is more local now than in the 70s, when automation was king. Sure the best known personalities are syndicated. But that's just because they happen to be popular. They all have local competition in every city.

That is complete BS, radio is almost all national. Big AH is well known to us as a contrary argument starter on the HD board, this guy just loves to argue, ignore him he's like a virus that is very hard to get rid of once he's got into your system.
 
TheBigA said:
dxer720 said:
Terestrial radio's biggest advantage over satellite is localism, but they don't seem to want to use it.

I really wish I knew where this myth got started.

More than half of the radio stations in this country are local all the time. In fact, I'd suggest radio is more local now than in the 70s, when automation was king. Sure the best known personalities are syndicated. But that's just because they happen to be popular. They all have local competition in every city.

Moderator please delete my above post, thank you.

That is complete BS, That is complete BS, radio is almost all national, very little local programming left. It's a big business with carbon copy stations that simulcast all around the country and if not they all copy each other, only a few formats for thousands of stations, there is very little choice on over the air radio. How many classic rock stations do you have in your market that are almost indistinguishable from each other? How about oldies? 60's and 70's? All sound the same regardless of what city they're from, even have almost identical play lists. Try and find a 50's station in your market on terrestrial radio, doesn't exist. Conservative talk shows galore though. Terrestrial radio is sickening. NPR is OK except they've drunk the poisonous kool aid of iBlock and they're national too.
 
KB1OKL said:
TheBigA said:
dxer720 said:
Terestrial radio's biggest advantage over satellite is localism, but they don't seem to want to use it.

I really wish I knew where this myth got started.

More than half of the radio stations in this country are local all the time. In fact, I'd suggest radio is more local now than in the 70s, when automation was king. Sure the best known personalities are syndicated. But that's just because they happen to be popular. They all have local competition in every city.

Moderator please delete my above post, thank you.

That is complete BS, That is complete BS, radio is almost all national, very little local programming left. It's a big business with carbon copy stations that simulcast all around the country and if not they all copy each other, only a few formats for thousands of stations, there is very little choice on over the air radio. How many classic rock stations do you have in your market that are almost indistinguishable from each other? How about oldies? 60's and 70's? All sound the same regardless of what city they're from, even have almost identical play lists. Try and find a 50's station in your market on terrestrial radio, doesn't exist. Conservative talk shows galore though. Terrestrial radio is sickening. NPR is OK except they've drunk the poisonous kool aid of iBlock and they're national too.

Funny. Actually NPR stations are the ones that are almost all national. Some air the same national programs twice a day. Why is it OK for NPR to be national 20 out of 24 hours a day?

Interesting how Bob Young has sought out a post I made three months ago, and is now responding.
 
Quote from the Big A:
Funny. Actually NPR stations are the ones that are almost all national. Some air the same national programs twice a day. Why is it OK for NPR to be national 20 out of 24 hours a day?

Interesting how Bob Young has sought out a post I made three months ago, and is now responding.
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Like most people on this board, I don't have the credentials to be an expert on NPR programming on a national level; but the local NPR station - WUSF licensed to the University of South Florida, is live and local 15 hours per day(including overnights); when I visit my parents, in central Florida; their local NPR station is live and local 16 hours per day; WUFT.(University of Florida)

WUSF is live and local 12 hours a day on Saturday, not sure about Sunday.

In this market, the NPR station WUSF is hand downs more live and local than the top rated FM and the top rated AM.

The number 1 station, repeatedly in this market is WDUV fm and they are live and local 4 hours per day Monday through Friday and then automated from 10am through 6am the following day; never a time check or current temperature, but evidently they get the listeners.

The number 1 AM station in this market (Clearwater/St. Petersburg/Tampa) - WFLA is live and local 4 hours a day(Monday through Friday) as well and 20 hours per day of satellite feed.

As far as someone responding to comment on a post , originally posted in July, I guess one could say that your posts are timeless!! :)

drt
 
drt said:
In this market, the NPR station WUSF is hand downs more live and local than the top rated FM and the top rated AM.

The number 1 station, repeatedly in this market is WDUV fm and they are live and local 4 hours per day Monday through Friday and then automated from 10am through 6am the following day; never a time check or current temperature, but evidently they get the listeners.

The number 1 AM station in this market (Clearwater/St. Petersburg/Tampa) - WFLA is live and local 4 hours a day(Monday through Friday) as well and 20 hours per day of satellite feed.

All interesting facts. For commercial radio, the goal is to be #1, not live & local. If you can do both, that's great, but not a requirement. Being #1 is an indication of how the public feels about your programming.

I've been to Tampa many times, and I know the #2 station, WQYK, is live & local 24 hours a day. WFLZ just added Ryan Seacrest in the afternoons, but the rest of the day is local jocks.

WUSF is not typical for NPR. Two years ago, the National Endowment for the Arts released a report very critical of NPR and its stations for replacing cultural programs with more national news & public affairs. You can read a story about the report here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/10/AR2006111000286.html
 
There is one issue i'm thinkin of and i have no idea how this will play out. I have both XM and Sirius and signed up for the max of both services in January I think. three years for XM two for Sirius. I wonder how they're gonna play those cards out?
 
TheBigA said:
KB1OKL said:
TheBigA said:
dxer720 said:
Terestrial radio's biggest advantage over satellite is localism, but they don't seem to want to use it.

I really wish I knew where this myth got started.

More than half of the radio stations in this country are local all the time. In fact, I'd suggest radio is more local now than in the 70s, when automation was king. Sure the best known personalities are syndicated. But that's just because they happen to be popular. They all have local competition in every city.

Moderator please delete my above post, thank you.

That is complete BS, That is complete BS, radio is almost all national, very little local programming left. It's a big business with carbon copy stations that simulcast all around the country and if not they all copy each other, only a few formats for thousands of stations, there is very little choice on over the air radio. How many classic rock stations do you have in your market that are almost indistinguishable from each other? How about oldies? 60's and 70's? All sound the same regardless of what city they're from, even have almost identical play lists. Try and find a 50's station in your market on terrestrial radio, doesn't exist. Conservative talk shows galore though. Terrestrial radio is sickening. NPR is OK except they've drunk the poisonous kool aid of iBlock and they're national too.

Funny. Actually NPR stations are the ones that are almost all national. Some air the same national programs twice a day. Why is it OK for NPR to be national 20 out of 24 hours a day?

Interesting how Bob Young has sought out a post I made three months ago, and is now responding.

First of all I don't look at the date of posts, couldn't care less actually, if it was true then it's true now and conversely it if was BS then it's still BS.
NPR does broadcast the same programs such as car talk every week and Prairie Home Companion just to site two which are completely different every week, that is new programming every week. The only thing wrong with NPR at this point anyway IMHO is that they are still big iBlock supporters although I think they're starting to learn what many of have known right along, HD does not work period.
 
I guess this discussion has moved a long way from my original post, but I feel "sold down the river" on this merger thing. Nothing has happened, and it appears no one is in a hurry to make anything happen. Even you folks in the business can't seem to find out anything. I think it's sad for the subscriber. It appears, and I may be wrong, that the decades playlists are actually getting smaller. I'm actually thinking of canceling both receivers and just listening to the Ipod. Sad
 
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