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XM & Sirius Merger Done Deal

Re: SATELLITE MERGER - Whither Opie and Anthony (and Little Jimmy Norton, too)

But, the big story on Action News is the fact that it would appear Mel is in charge.

FACT: Mel is Hoo Hoo's "Golden Boy"
FACT: Hoo Hoo hates O&A
FACT: XM has O&A

This does not bode well for the New Kings of Morning Drive Radio. *puke*
 
Re: The Merger Has Been Announced!

Funny you mention that. both college stations I have/am on are 3,000 watts one streams now and one will be soon... there would be probably a way that they could pick certain ones. I doubt they would ever see if they could pick the one I am on up here in the woods of VT... but it would be nice to see like the bigger college radio stations on satellite.

eatspaste said:
Jamie said:
I would be all in favor of the merger if they were to allow local market radio (based on where you live) Just like they do on Television... on satellite radio or at least let college radio on satellite... unfortunately you would have to change the FCC rulings ...
well theres my two cents

Why the hell would I want to pay money to hear a 90-watt college station?

And how would you do it? Each big city gets a little college station on the bird? So, XM/SIRI has to give 50 or 60 channels to college radio?
 
Re: The Merger Has Been Announced!

rester said:
NO more choice for consumers. What a bummer. That really stinks. But I'm even more afraid of lame programming. Not that I thought XM was perfect (although... pretty good!), but it was refreshing listening to XM (thru AOL), FM, internet stations and my iPod. Since I'm in The Netherlands, I've never been able to listen to Sirius, so I can't give an opinion on them, but XM more than OK. Just a bit TOO much music as far as I'm concerned. I like to hear DJ's, ID's, and not just "3000 songs in a row". That's OK for some channels, but I feel there are too many that are JUST music. Hopefully, the merge won't kill the creativity at XM. Otherwise, I don't see a big future for XM/Sirius as far as millions of new subscribers are concerned. I've written more about in on my website: http://ronsterrenburg.com.

XM is certainly not perfect, but it does a good job overall. However, I have both services. I usually listen to XM around town as it doesn't take more than a few minutes to get anywhere in town, and XM has less clutter than Sirius. However, I prefer Sirius when travelling longer distances, which I usually do at least a couple of times a month, as it has more rock channels, which are better to me when travelling, and the jocks provide some interaction during the trip.

About paying $ 12,95 for 150 channels... no-one listens to 150 channels! That was already a selling trick right from the start. It doesn't really affect the merge as long as you keep paying the same amount for the same amount of channels, does it?

You're correct that no one listens to 150 channels. However, that wasn't my point so much as that we, as consumers, will pay more per channel if programming goes the a la carte route, which will mean less value, and will have less options when it comes to that occasional phantom button push. I expect to pay more as I listen to several different genres. For example, my favorite Sirius channel is the Jazz Cafe, but I don't listen to it on my way to work as I'm afraid it would help put me right back to sleep. I usually tune in either Totally 70's or the Pulse. When I'm driving to Springfield to visit my parents, I usually listen either to Buzzsaw or Classic Rewind (though I found myself listening to Prime Country on the two hour drive on Friday evening). Collectively, I mostly listen to about 15 channels, but they're everywhere, and that doesn't account for the occasional push of, say, Area 33 or Shade 45, which I could do without but am glad to know they're an option!

It was inevitable that these two companies would merge. Neither of them were making any money, so what's the point? It IS a pity for consumers. Just imagine that McDonalds would be the only place where you get a hamburger.

Certainly, both companies had some problems when it came to financing. However, I'm not sure a merger was the best way to solve it. Many of us are dual subs and will drop several of our radios as there will be no incentive to have duplicate programming. So, their subscriber count won't go up as dramatically as they thought it would. In fact, most of the people I know who subscribe to satellite radio are dual subs. While that's not a scientific survey, I'd guess it's not a unique situation.
 
Of course this is all depending on the government giving the OK for them to merge. The FCC has already said before they wouldn't allow a merger because when satellite radio first launched there was language written into the deal saying there had to be two distinct providers. A few years ago the government blocked an attempt by DirecTV and Dish Network to merge, so I think they'll do the same here.

But, if it does happen, I'm not too sure if I'm going to like the end product, though that lifetime subscription to Sirius has already been paid for.
 
Conference Call Tuesday, February 20, 2007 at 8:30 AM ET

Conference Call and Webcast Information

The companies will hold a joint conference call and webcast on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 at 8:30 AM ET to discuss this announcement. The conference call can be monitored by dialing 800-573-4840 within the U.S. and 617-224-4326 for all other locations, passcode 29490052. The webcast can be accessed at http://www.sirius.com/ and http://www.xmradio.com/ as well as on their satellite radio services by tuning to SIRIUS channel 122 and XM channel 200. The webcast will be archived at http://www.sirius.com/ and http://www.xmradio.com/.
 
Re: The Merger Has Been Announced!

Rester, you CAN listen to Sirius on the internet- even in the Netherlands. You can get a 3 day free trial.
 
Re: The Merger Has Been Announced!

Just my 2 cents worth: I own Sirius stock (Wish I had sold it long ago) and I think it's mostly terrible for consumers. The inter-operable technology idea is great but get ready for a pretty big round of firings, lay-offs etc because of duplicate services. Mel K would have no qualms about that. I doubt very seriously they will have 2 60's stations, 2 70's etc. Any time 2 companies tell me that their merger will be better for me, it never is.
 
Well it happened. It reeks. Jobs will be lost,.programming ,despite their PR,will be blitzed. TRUE competition improves the quality of a product. Mergers delute the product and raise the prices. The NAB is against it,thats a surprise. The FCC must make a decison, then you have the DOJ,so it appears this will not take place ( if it does) until summer 2008. I hope it doesn't.
 
He is a salesman at heart, and shepherding a limping Sirius over the last few years has not been his piece of cake, or even the best use of his skills. He hasn't had quotas to set, others to inspire to reach those quotas, or deals to make. He is one of radio's all time most gifted sales executives, and he can't wait to put inventory back on the "bird".

Karmazin is overrated. His stock made money in the 90's when EVERYONE's stock made money. After the tech bubble popped, his stock was hit just as hard as everyone else's. Compared to other media companies, maybe harder.

What's so special about that?

If you want to grade Karmazin, then look at what he's done since the tech bubble popped. That's when the real survival of the fittest began. Here's the score. CBS floundered and Sumner chased him off. And now Sirius is looking for a life preserver.

So don't be so quick to join the "In Karmazin We Trust" crowd.
 
Re: The Merger Has Been Announced!

While it will probably take a long time to put everything together, I think that in the end the merger will pass FCC & DOJ. Most companies that size employ pretty good lawyers, and it would be silly to think that their respective FCC counsels did not make some sort of "contact" within the FCC to decide if proceeding had a reasonable chance of success. The amount spent to make things ready for a merger is significant, and if there's no chance, then there's no reason for 2 companies that are already bleeding red ink to bleed some more just for the sake of a handshake photo-op.
 
Re: The Merger Has Been Announced!

As somebody that has followed satellite radio from the very beginning and that

once had XM and now Sirius, I can tell you that yesterday was a life changing

experience in radio. It's like what would happen if NBC, ABC, CBS, and Mutual

merge their radio operations during the golden age.

I agree with everybody else in that this is a good deal. And it may be good news

for somebody that wants to start up in a few years as they now have the space

to do it. That's how a business works. You buy your competition, and you

stay on top until somebody comes to challenge it.

Hopefully this will solve the finanical burden of both companies which may explain

why it's taken place to begin with. Of course, they will have to pass all regulations

to do it. But since we're living in a corporation buying era, this may be now or
never.
 
Re: SATELLITE MERGER

cyber said:
Musically I haven't heard a lot about how different it is from the terrestrial slop that passes for music radio.

Well, there are no '50s Oldies on terrestrial radio. At least not in my market.
 
I know the Washington Post and Corporate Radio don't share demos, but here we go... Howard Kurtz writes:

In all the very fine stories about the proposed XM-Sirius merger, there was one glaring omission.

The reason these two companies have 13 million subscribers willing to cough up $12.95 a month for something we all grew up thinking should be free is that commercial radio has self-destructed.

All these folks (including me) are paying for satellite because they're tired of cookie-cutter radio formats stuffed to the gills with commercials. They're also fed up with focus-grouped music stations that play the same 60 songs until you start hearing the chords in your sleep.

And local radio stations covering news? There are a few across the country. For the rest, forget about it.

Really, can you think of an industry (okay, maybe American automakers) that has frittered away such huge advantages and sent its customers scrambling for alternatives?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...022100354.html?nav=rss_opinion/columns&sub=AR
 
Re: The Merger Has Been Announced!

Jamie said:
Funny you mention that. both college stations I have/am on are 3,000 watts one streams now and one will be soon... there would be probably a way that they could pick certain ones. I doubt they would ever see if they could pick the one I am on up here in the woods of VT... but it would be nice to see like the bigger college radio stations on satellite.

Cable TV has to (and can) pick-up local broadcast stations because there are head ends every few counties that can pick-up the TV air signal. XM and Sirius can't do that, except for where they have facilites in a tiny number of cities. A college station would have to pay to fiber their programming to XM or SIRI.

Believe me, you don't want satellite radio rebroadcasting an internet stream - the audio would be horrific.
 
Re: The Merger Has Been Announced!

eatspaste said:
Believe me, you don't want satellite radio rebroadcasting an internet stream - the audio would be horrific.

Better horrific audio that a format that SUCKS. I ate static all during junior high and high school listening to FM from 300 miles out - to avoid redneck music.
 
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