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Y-101 implosion?

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First Mike Murphy...now Charlie...

according to All Access, Charlie's gone...aparently without finding another job

Is this the beginning of the end? Ratings come out next week...

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Time will tell...

Simply copying the "X" isn't gonna cut it. I can't tell you how many times I have switched between the two to hear the exact same song playing. Also, with the "X" having Nascar, they are hard to beat.

I wonder what they'll replace the "y" with if they do, in fact, concede the alternative rock market to Clear Channel.<P ID="signature">______________
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Had a funny feeling that Charlie would leave when Mike left for Baltimore. This could be the begining of the end for Y101. Even though NASCAR is almost done for the year, it's a 9 month sport. Can we expect a format change, it's possible. The question is, what to do with this station that has gotten it's teeth kicked in. Hot Talk would be a good idea as long as there are people there on the air that can grab your attention. If you stay alternative, it will stay what it is now, very mainstream with NOTHING to let it break out. The 80's alt idea is rather a moot point now because of the JACK like format on Liberty 98.9. HotAC would be a bad idea in a way, it would be in competition with their own AC station Mix103.7. One idea that I thought of that is missing from Richmond, JAZZ and I don't mean just the smooth jazz. I mean Jazz from the early days until today. AAA would be a good idea and would compete with Liberty for the audience that doesn't want to sit through Madonna to get to Norah Jones or John Mayer. Now, if Cox does what Encyclopedia said a few weeks back and stays the course because they don't care about that one doing a profit, then it will stay the same with just a new morning show and midday jock to null the void.

My gut instinct says that Charlie is going to end up in Baltimore with Mike. Just makes sense I think for them to stay together if possible since they had a great rapport on the air.

Will this be the end of Y101 as we know it.......we will soon see
 
How about CHR/RHY since Q does not play much hip hop that crosses into the pop world (even though adding more lately)....a station like Hot 993 was (it was popular on the streets and there was NO DJ's, and Ratings were even ok)....another example would be Z104, Norfolk

Or go CHR/pop and play more Hip Hop like Zone 1061, Norfolk (and make it open to Dance)

If not that then Hot talk or Jazz but Jazz seems not to work in VA. Look at Norfolk's 921/1077, C-Ville's 1075 and of course Richmond's 93.1

we do not need AAA here - you can get those songs on Lite, Liberty and even Mix

But how about changing to mainstream rock like FM99 in Norfolk

I would like to a Dance/Trance station, but I know that will not happen

I would also like to someone do a jack format but use CHR/Top 40 music :)

or Spanish, Richmond's First Spanish station (CHR/spanish)


Can u tell I like Norfolk radio ? (I do like Norfolk radio over Richmond)

> Time will tell...
>
> Simply copying the "X" isn't gonna cut it. I can't tell you
> how many times I have switched between the two to hear the
> exact same song playing. Also, with the "X" having Nascar,
> they are hard to beat.
>
> I wonder what they'll replace the "y" with if they do, in
> fact, concede the alternative rock market to Clear Channel.
>
 
> How about CHR/RHY since Q does not play much hip hop that
> crosses into the pop world (even though adding more
> lately)....a station like Hot 993 was (it was popular on the
> streets and there was NO DJ's, and Ratings were even
> ok)....another example would be Z104, Norfolk
>
> Or go CHR/pop and play more Hip Hop like Zone 1061, Norfolk
> (and make it open to Dance)
>
> If not that then Hot talk or Jazz but Jazz seems not to work
> in VA. Look at Norfolk's 921/1077, C-Ville's 1075 and of
> course Richmond's 93.1
>
> we do not need AAA here - you can get those songs on Lite,
> Liberty and even Mix
>
> But how about changing to mainstream rock like FM99 in
> Norfolk
>
> I would like to a Dance/Trance station, but I know that will
> not happen
>
> I would also like to someone do a jack format but use
> CHR/Top 40 music :)
>
> or Spanish, Richmond's First Spanish station (CHR/spanish)
>
>
> Can u tell I like Norfolk radio ? (I do like Norfolk radio
> over Richmond)
>
> > Time will tell...
> >
> > Simply copying the "X" isn't gonna cut it. I can't tell
> you
> > how many times I have switched between the two to hear the
>
> > exact same song playing. Also, with the "X" having Nascar,
>
> > they are hard to beat.
> >
> > I wonder what they'll replace the "y" with if they do, in
> > fact, concede the alternative rock market to Clear
> Channel.
> >
It's COX. Don't expect any changes now or ever.
>
 
> > I would like to a Dance/Trance station, but I know that will not happen.

Do you like Dance Hits? Energy 98 on the web is a great station...

> > It's COX. Don't expect any changes now or ever.

COX does have an interesting track record like the jock-less WFOX in Atlanta. 80s, 90s & Today's Jamz on a monster signal but it's a stinker ratings-wise. They have their reasons for keeping things status-quo. If anything, you'd think that they would at least put their decent 95-5 The Beat format on the slightly better 97.1 signal to better compete with Radio One's WHTA, Infinity's WVEE and the recent power upgrade at Susquehanna's WWWQ...

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I agree with you vaboi, a CHR/RHY would be great. I have wondered why Norfolk does well with CHR/RHY ( 1041. and 106.1 ) but when Q94 tried to lean that way a few years ago the ratings went down drastically. Now they play little hip hop. And you can't say the two urban stations here play what a CHR/RHY would play. There is definitely a void and if done right I think that format would do well here and force q94 to play some good music.
 
> > > I would like to a Dance/Trance station, but I know that
> will not happen.
>
> Do you like Dance Hits? Energy 98 on the web is a great
> station...
>
> > > It's COX. Don't expect any changes now or ever.
>
> COX does have an interesting track record like the jock-less
> WFOX in Atlanta. 80s, 90s & Today's Jamz on a monster signal
> but it's a stinker ratings-wise. They have their reasons for
> keeping things status-quo. If anything, you'd think that
> they would at least put their decent 95-5 The Beat format on
> the slightly better 97.1 signal to better compete with Radio
> One's WHTA, Infinity's WVEE and the recent power upgrade at
> Susquehanna's WWWQ...
>
What I think will happen is that they'll keep the current format.They just may hire cheaper jocks and employ cheaper methods to do it(which is the same motivation I think they had to can Dick Hungate and Kerry James,let's see how cheaper we can do this),and you may start seeing more jockless shifts on the weekend and in the nighttime and overnight periods,and you might see some jocks from the other stations in the cluster appear on Y101(You already have a prime example there on two their other stations).You also may see "part-time Full Timers",that is ,part time jocks working full time shifts either live or V/T'd but staying just under the amount of hours that would be required to get all the F/T bennies.And IF you're a P/T jock WITH Cox,on ANY of those stations, AND you're waiting for a promotion to F/T status and they TRY to shove one of those situations down your throat AND they dovetail it with "--it'll just be for a little while--" or "You'll probably get the promotion--" ***>>>TAKE IT FROM A 30 YEAR EXPERT...I've BEEN down that "P/T F/T" path many times in my early radio days in the 70s and 80s,and if your heart is set on a promotion to F/T,you can respond in several ways.Here are a few."OK,I'll do it for (xxx) weeks (I would suggest 2 to 6 weeks only) but by the end of the last week I'm not gonna do it anymore,you'll either have to get another P/T person or give me the job on a full time basis",or "So you think I can handle this every night huh?" The PD might say "Yeah","Then why don't you just give me the job full time right now?" The response might be some bullshit like "--we have to make sure you're right for the job"(to which you should respond) "How long have I been on your airwaves doing your format? I'm ready RIGHT NOW!!!.If you don't agree with that then that tells me you either really have no faith in my abilities,or you don't have any real authority here".Or you might hear the PD say "There are some people I have to convince" TRANSLATION: "I Really don't have any authority around here" which would also translate into "I have no balls.The managers here are simply corporate slaves" (which is the reason I believe Mr.Murphy started looking.A lot of the "el-cheapo" solutions" that I've described here may have be things Mr.Murphy may have been fighting,and now that he's out of the way,managment is starting to implement them.)." and you shouldn't even waste your time OR you could respond "Who are these people? I want to talk to them myself" and The PD might say something like "You can't" or "I have to be the one" to which you could say "Well,I think I'll go ask the GM,GSM.or maybe call Corporate Programming and find out who these people are (and just so you know,those persons probably ARE the people the PD has to convince.You'll be turning up the burner under the PDs ass,and the heat lamp over his head up to high if you say that,and he may just "show his real cards").You have to remember that these radio bosses were once just like you,struggling up the ladder,and probably got "used" in a very similar ways.Just remember this,these people are not gods or super people,they eat,sleep and crap just like you do,and they probably aren't all that brighter than you anyway.Remember,you can either just stand there and let yourself get gored by the bull and die,or you can grab the bull by the horns wrestle the bull down to the ground and kick him in the nuts.You might die anyway,but at least you didn't die by "the bull's agenda",and you actually could survive and maybe actually get what you want,or at least you'll get down thier REAL INTENTIONS!!!!.There's an expression,"when you've got 'em by the balls,thier hearts and minds will follow".
 
Okay, going to make several points, one I tend to agree with Encyclopedia, Cox will LIKELY not do anything with Y101. One point he made to me a few weeks back was that Cox was NOT interested in profit with this station. If that is the case and they stay as a mid league alt, look for a lot of cheap VTing. The only key of course is them saying, next on Y101 and not next on Y99. We might get Lex and Terry or Mancow for mornings(Cox's answers to Stern, Elliot etc.) but even there I have doubts for a few reasons. Richmond has seen it's share of controversy in the past with Stern and now with Star and Buc Wild. Lex and Terry are just as crude content wise as Stern. Heck, there are mornings when they make Elliot look tame, which is saying a lot because Elliot is a LOT like Stern but without the multi-million dollar deals. Mancow WON'T come here...not a strong enough market for the FNC token shock talker to arrive here. That and his stock is rising with the fact that people are lining him up in markets to replace Stern, which doesn't hurt his stock either. Last I heard he was one of the runners besides David Lee Roth to take over NYC when stern leaves in Jan2006.

Dance won't happen with Cox here. Hell, they have to agree at least with me on my recation to K95, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. They won't give up the Classic Rock format on the plaent(96.5) nor will they give up Mix 103.7 either, even though it's probably getting burried by the MUCH BETTER Lite 98. My idea for dance is maybe get rid of Oldies 100.3-107.3(mainline) and merger those stations into a more unified 100.3-107.3: The Source. Turn it into a Rythmic CHR-Dance station and watch the station GROW in popularity. Q94 had a issue with doing CHR rythmic style for a reason folks, they were playing too much Top40 to be considered a Rythmic station. The listeners out here don't want to hear Jay Z and 50 Cent in between Green Day's latest song. So for that reason, Radio One won the Rythmic war along with CC's 106.5 The Beat. As long as they program it with ALL Rythmic and no swinging into the rest of the top40 music of the mall stuff, it could work out.

I still think that we will see Charlie in Charm City(Baltimore) back in tow with Mike Murphey. Just a funny feeling I have that says that the partnership with those two is NOT over yet. The chemistry they had was great, they fed off each other VERY well. I don't think CC will hire him for the X full time. I somehow don't see him working a "JACK" station like Liberty, although it would be a very pleasant surprise.

We will soon see--
 
Only reason why I think Y might be imploding is the quick loss of people...sales, the PD, morning jock...

But yes...Cox is a unusual broadcaster (at least CC uses some rational thought in their formatting decisions)...they always leave me scratching my head. You should certainly expect V/T ing on Y, or just running jockless minus mornings and afternoons. They do this on their rocker in a #12 market (Miami), so expect similar stuff here

Cox DID do an excellent job with dance (Real dance, not CHR/Rhythmic)in Miami. When I spent time down there, I enjoyed Party 93-1 (Now 93 Rock)

I just don't know...I really don't see why we need an active-leaning alt. rocker and a low powered alt. rocker...is Richmond that much of a rock town?

as for the "Full-time part-time" Ha, yes, I know what you're talking about. I, personally, have no problems not getting any F/T bennies (Mostly because I'm young...wait for 20 years and ask me again :)

I do see a 'Zone' like CHR comming to RIC on 107.3. Perhaps the CHR might go to 101.1, though I doubt it...I'm just confused...Cox's only goal in RIC is to be a thorn in CC's side

Ugh...we will soon see

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This from the times dispatch this morning

Charlie Padgett's five-year run at Cox Radio in Richmond has come to a close. The morning jock at WDYL-FM (Y101) was told Friday that the station was making programming changes.

Could programming changes mean new format too?
 
> Could programming changes mean new format too?
>

Well, that could be an excuse for him to leave for cheaper paying positions...

"Programming changes" is a pretty broad term; at the least...possibly cheaper jocks...at the most, it could be a change a la Indie 103-1 in LA or K-Rock in NYC...

I sorta step back from my position that Y-101 will flip due to the fact that I saw a post in All Access looking for a PD for Y-101...

This could get interesting....

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RedRacer, not so sure about that. Encyclopedia said a few weeks ago that they are NOT worried about Y101 being a profitable station. That being said, I think it will still be Alternative Rock. They might get a new PD, but the mornings I think will end up being syndicated or done VERY cheap with less money put into the show. Whoever ends up in mornings has some good shoes to fill, Charlie was a good host. Now, if there is syndicated talent coming in, it's going to be one of two shows coming in to compete AGAINST elliot. Lex and Terry or Mancow. If it's a morning show, look for it to crumble due to low production spending. Honestly, I wish I could see the station changing it's format, but I don't think it will happen.

we will soon see.....
 
> > > > I would like to a Dance/Trance station, but I know
> that
> > will not happen.
> >
> > Do you like Dance Hits? Energy 98 on the web is a great
> > station...
> >
> > > > It's COX. Don't expect any changes now or ever.
> >
> > COX does have an interesting track record like the
> jock-less
> > WFOX in Atlanta. 80s, 90s & Today's Jamz on a monster
> signal
> > but it's a stinker ratings-wise. They have their reasons
> for
> > keeping things status-quo. If anything, you'd think that
> > they would at least put their decent 95-5 The Beat format
> on
> > the slightly better 97.1 signal to better compete with
> Radio
> > One's WHTA, Infinity's WVEE and the recent power upgrade
> at
> > Susquehanna's WWWQ...
> >
> What I think will happen is that they'll keep the current
> format.They just may hire cheaper jocks and employ cheaper
> methods to do it(which is the same motivation I think they
> had to can Dick Hungate and Kerry James,let's see how
> cheaper we can do this),and you may start seeing more
> jockless shifts on the weekend and in the nighttime and
> overnight periods,and you might see some jocks from the
> other stations in the cluster appear on Y101(You already
> have a prime example there on two their other stations).You
> also may see "part-time Full Timers",that is ,part time
> jocks working full time shifts either live or V/T'd but
> staying just under the amount of hours that would be
> required to get all the F/T bennies.And IF you're a P/T jock
> WITH Cox,on ANY of those stations, AND you're waiting for a
> promotion to F/T status and they TRY to shove one of those
> situations down your throat AND they dovetail it with
> "--it'll just be for a little while--" or "You'll probably
> get the promotion--" ***>>>TAKE IT FROM A 30 YEAR
> EXPERT...I've BEEN down that "P/T F/T" path many times in my
> early radio days in the 70s and 80s,and if your heart is set
> on a promotion to F/T,you can respond in several ways.Here
> are a few."OK,I'll do it for (xxx) weeks (I would suggest 2
> to 6 weeks only) but by the end of the last week I'm not
> gonna do it anymore,you'll either have to get another P/T
> person or give me the job on a full time basis",or "So you
> think I can handle this every night huh?" The PD might say
> "Yeah","Then why don't you just give me the job full time
> right now?" The response might be some bullshit like "--we
> have to make sure you're right for the job"(to which you
> should respond) "How long have I been on your airwaves doing
> your format? I'm ready RIGHT NOW!!!.If you don't agree with
> that then that tells me you either really have no faith in
> my abilities,or you don't have any real authority here".Or
> you might hear the PD say "There are some people I have to
> convince" TRANSLATION: "I Really don't have any authority
> around here" which would also translate into "I have no
> balls.The managers here are simply corporate slaves" (which
> is the reason I believe Mr.Murphy started looking.A lot of
> the "el-cheapo" solutions" that I've described here may have
> be things Mr.Murphy may have been fighting,and now that he's
> out of the way,managment is starting to implement them.)."
> and you shouldn't even waste your time OR you could respond
> "Who are these people? I want to talk to them myself" and
> The PD might say something like "You can't" or "I have to be
> the one" to which you could say "Well,I think I'll go ask
> the GM,GSM.or maybe call Corporate Programming and find out
> who these people are (and just so you know,those persons
> probably ARE the people the PD has to convince.You'll be
> turning up the burner under the PDs ass,and the heat lamp
> over his head up to high if you say that,and he may just
> "show his real cards").You have to remember that these radio
> bosses were once just like you,struggling up the ladder,and
> probably got "used" in a very similar ways.Just remember
> this,these people are not gods or super people,they
> eat,sleep and crap just like you do,and they probably aren't
> all that brighter than you anyway.Remember,you can either
> just stand there and let yourself get gored by the bull and
> die,or you can grab the bull by the horns wrestle the bull
> down to the ground and kick him in the nuts.You might die
> anyway,but at least you didn't die by "the bull's
> agenda",and you actually could survive and maybe actually
> get what you want,or at least you'll get down thier REAL
> INTENTIONS!!!!.There's an expression,"when you've got 'em by
> the balls,thier hearts and minds will follow".

In Tampa Bay, Cox only may run one station live 24/7 in their cluster. maybe. I do know WWRM ( a B-103 clone) has DElilah from 7PM to 5AM, WPOI and WXGL only have 2 jocks , and WDUV has a morning show. All other hours are not even VT'ed. They just play their music with an occasional generic station break. Cox stations never use jingle packages.
Calling CC Cheap CHannel is absurd. NO CC station is as lifeless as a COX product.
 
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