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Y-Rock on XPN re-brands

Probably more to do with people not knowing it's origin. Y-100 has been off the air for how long now? XPN-2 seems a smarter choice.
 
It focuses on the XPN brand and enables the station to adjust the music mix without being tied to memories of Y-100. I'm surprised it took them this long.
 
musichead1029 said:
It focuses on the XPN brand and enables the station to adjust the music mix without being tied to memories of Y-100. I'm surprised it took them this long.

I would also assume that the rebrand was belatedly brought in by the fact that the guy who programmed "Y Rock on XPN" (and brought the idea to XPN) left about a year ago to program Minnesota Public Radio's "The Current" in the Twin Cities.
 
Nick said:
Y100 should never have been taken off the air.

Was Y100 getting any better numbers than WPHI's current 2.6? Was it billing better than WPHI is now? Do you realize that Radio One doesn't run rock stations?
 
Mark Jeffries said:
Nick said:
Y100 should never have been taken off the air.

Was Y100 getting any better numbers than WPHI's current 2.6? Was it billing better than WPHI is now? Do you realize that Radio One doesn't run rock stations?

From what I remember, it peaked in the 3-4 range and was Radio One's top biller
 
Nick said:
Mark Jeffries said:
Nick said:
Y100 should never have been taken off the air.

Was Y100 getting any better numbers than WPHI's current 2.6? Was it billing better than WPHI is now? Do you realize that Radio One doesn't run rock stations?

From what I remember, it peaked in the 3-4 range and was Radio One's top biller

Nah. Unfortunately in the diary method, it usually fell between a 2.5 and a 3.5 in the ratings. It might have spiked higher once in a while, but it never consistently pulled above a 4.0 like 104.5 has in the PPM

It WAS Radio One's top biller, but it didn't fit their corporate portfolio. Now, it MIGHT be their top biller just based on it being their biggest signal, but it seems that 103.9 and 107.9 with their small, targeted signals get more bang for the buck.
 
Could the crew have known what was coming and stayed ahead of the game with Y Not Radio? As for XPN2 no Y Rock then Y bother? If I'm going to stream a station it'll be Y Not and I can't get XPNs HD2 stations anyway.
 
evolve991 said:
As for XPN2 no Y Rock then Y bother? If I'm going to stream a station it'll be Y Not and I can't get XPNs HD2 stations anyway.
Right, 'cause the music can't be any good if there's not, like, a "Y" in the name. XPN's channels stream online which is how 99.5% of their listeners receive them. The HD is just political window dressing that XPN members (and probably taxpayers) pay for but don't use.
 
SilverTonicFree said:
Nick said:
Mark Jeffries said:
Nick said:
Y100 should never have been taken off the air.

Was Y100 getting any better numbers than WPHI's current 2.6? Was it billing better than WPHI is now? Do you realize that Radio One doesn't run rock stations?

From what I remember, it peaked in the 3-4 range and was Radio One's top biller

Nah. Unfortunately in the diary method, it usually fell between a 2.5 and a 3.5 in the ratings. It might have spiked higher once in a while, but it never consistently pulled above a 4.0 like 104.5 has in the PPM

It WAS Radio One's top biller, but it didn't fit their corporate portfolio. Now, it MIGHT be their top biller just based on it being their biggest signal, but it seems that 103.9 and 107.9 with their small, targeted signals get more bang for the buck.

Radio One's 3 stations combined didn't bill as much as Y100 after the flip. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
 
evolve991 said:
Could the crew have known what was coming and stayed ahead of the game with Y Not Radio? As for XPN2 no Y Rock then Y bother? If I'm going to stream a station it'll be Y Not and I can't get XPNs HD2 stations anyway.

The Yrock crew did kind of know what was coming and stayed ahead of the game a year ago when XPN let go the paid staff of Yrock (Josh T Landow PD/OM and Joey O. MD) in July 2010. Josh had already had Ynot in his back pocket as a contigency plan, and launched that immediately. A fair amount of the volunteer staff also went with them.

For the past year, XPN continued to use the Yrock brand name on that channel of programming, but just now has decided to rebrand it as XPN2. Nothing has changed really with what they are playing. Just what they are calling it. I'm sure that everyone who is working on that side of the station knew about the rebrand plans, most took over after the rearrangement last year. So you can still stream XPN2's stream and pretend like it's still called Yrock. It should sound the same. You'll still hear like Mike Vasilikos, Robert Drake, and John Vettese

It was probably a combination of reasons.
1) "Y" brand and power is losing connection to an audience that is now aging into indie rock demo. It's been 6 years, an 18 year old would have only been 12 in 2005.
2) XPN wants to bolster its brand and make it's name bigger as the provider of that kind of programming. So change the name to XPN2 and their umbrella gets even bigger as the go to station for even more kinds of music.
3) Also, by removing the Yrock branded format they can also put other types of programming on that channel that might seem out of place under that name, but fine on XPN2.
4) There might still have been a licensing deal in place with Jim McGuinn for use of the Yrock name and now they wouldn't have to pay that, though that might just be a stretch of my imagination.
5) Finally, not that big of a deal, but there was probably confusion between YNot and YRocks, this just eliminates that.

- Al Clay
 
I've listened to XPN2 and it's still a good Indie station but Y-whatever tends to keep that Y100 spirit and sound. It's a tradition now and "2" subchannels are a dime a dozen in these days of HD Radio buzzkill. CBS should let YSP go and Philly could have its "Y" back without even a call letter change....yeah I know it'll never happen....
 
Why not, huh?
Okay, never heard of it, and I'll be the first to be confused.
Please someone enlighten?
I know YRockOnXPN was the HD2, and now tha'ts no more. at least as far as branding.
What's this Why Not thing?
 
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