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Yankees hype in NEPA

I know in this area people sometime travel to Philadelphia or NYC for business trips but every time TV and radio stations do the sports reports, it's always the Yankees as their first story. Why do stations focus more on the Yankees than the Phillies, which is being heard on ESPN Radio 630/1240? That station used to have the Yankees in the very late 90's until they gave the broadcasting rights to WARM. This year, no Yankees baseball on WARM. The only clearest signal to hear those games is to tune to 1160 WYNS out of Lehighton. Both Philly and NYC are 90 miles apart from each other and from Wilkes-Barre.

I am tired of seeing or hearing the news about Yankees winning games, they should focus on the Phillies, as much as like the Eagles or the Steelers NFL teams.
 
>
> I am tired of seeing or hearing the news about Yankees
> winning games, they should focus on the Phillies, as much as
> like the Eagles or the Steelers NFL teams.
>

I guess we're just so thrilled with the great job the Red Barons do up here.
I also think it could be that maybe there are more folks moving up here from NY and Northern NJ. I really don't think they care about the Phillies.
I worked one time for a company out of Phillie, in a store they had in Northern NJ and they sent "Pete Rose Drink"( rip off of Yoo Hoo). Anyway that junk sat there for months and was eventually sent to their stores in south jersey..near Phillie, where it out sold Yoo Hoo. Go figure.

PA_RoyDio
 
> I am tired of seeing or hearing the news about Yankees
> winning games, they should focus on the Phillies, as much as
> like the Eagles or the Steelers NFL teams.

I couldn't agree more. I've always believed you support YOUR STATE teams. This should be a PA based team market. I could see the Yankees getting air play up in Binghamton, but but in this market.
 
> >
> > I am tired of seeing or hearing the news about Yankees
> > winning games, they should focus on the Phillies, as much
> as
> > like the Eagles or the Steelers NFL teams.
> >
> It's simple brother!!!! The media cannot manufacture loyalty to a team!The big city"connection" around these parts has always been N.Y.C....especially
over here in the Poconos.Of corse the local media is going to push the Pa sports teams we are in Pa...but the honest reality is that more people here
like NYC teams...or some other team that has no local affiliation.I can't stand it when I hear some lame sports that only reads Yankee and Phillie scores.Read em' all!!Take a pole amongst friends you'll be surprised!Not to many Phillie or Eagle fans here...actually not many NYC team fans either BROTHER!!!
 
Re: Sports radio broadcasts

> > It's simple brother!!!! The media cannot manufacture
> loyalty to a team!The big city"connection" around these
> parts has always been N.Y.C....especially
> over here in the Poconos.Of corse the local media is going
> to push the Pa sports teams we are in Pa...but the honest
> reality is that more people here
> like NYC teams...or some other team that has no local
> affiliation.I can't stand it when I hear some lame sports
> that only reads Yankee and Phillie scores.Read em' all!!Take
> a pole amongst friends you'll be surprised!Not to many
> Phillie or Eagle fans here...actually not many NYC team fans
> either BROTHER!!!
>

Besides Yankees games on radio, several years back WICK used to run all New York Giants football games. Also, 97.9X had the Pittsburgh Steelers the first time they flipped from Cat Country 94(when it was on 93.7). Now they are carrying the Eagles. If you are a Steeler fan, the nearest station you will hear those broadcast is a faint signal of WCXR 103.7 from Lewisburg(a simulcast of the main WZXR 99.3 Williamsport).

And the rumors about Citadel bring Buffalo Bills to its station, let me tell you that Buffalo is 300+ miles NW away from Wilkes-Barre! And I don't know if WINR-AM, a station to the north still carries the Bills. That station is a flamethrower and easily heard in the Scr/W-B area with a good AM radio.

I guess there are too many regional pro teams radio news have to cover.
 
> > >
> > >...but the honest
> reality is that more people here
> like NYC teams...or some other team that has no local
> affiliation.I can't stand it when I hear some lame sports
> that only reads Yankee and Phillie scores.Read em' all!!Take
> a pole amongst friends you'll be surprised!Not to many
> Phillie or Eagle fans here...actually not many NYC team fans
> either BROTHER!!!
>
When I was growing up, my father said that if you were to be
a true sports fan, you had to follow the New York based teams.
His logic was because New York was the cultural center of the
United States. He was a Cardinal fan, shaped by the baseball of
the Gas House Gang of the late 20s and 30s with guys like Ducky
Medwick, Dizzy Dean, etc. But he always had a working knowledge
of the New York teams because while everyone might not have been
loyalists, the teams were always a topic of discussion.
I became a Cleveland Indians fan in the spring of 1965 when I
became ill and was confined to bed. I began listenming to 3WE WWWE
out of Cleveland and I became a fan of the Tribe. But I always
followed the New York teams because they impacted the rest of the
league.
In the mid 90s when I worked at Rock 107, WEJL/WBAX obtained the
rights to the New York Yankees. As a salesman for Shamrock, this
was a true bonus because the Yanks, love them or hate them, were an
easy sell. Nothwithstanding the fact that at the time, the night time
signals of WEJL and WBAX were about 400 watts (and the majority of
the games were played at night) selling the Yanks was one of the
best parts of working for Shamrock at the time. There was an
excitement in offering clients a quality product. And as far as
advertisers, I had very few Yankee fans who were my clients, these
were people who bought the advertising because love them or hate them,
they knew the Yankees mattered.
I understand that ESPN picked up the Phillies because they felt
the Yankee audience began to slip when the YES TV network came
into being. I think that was an excuse because the Yanks did raise
their rates. The Phils are a safe and somewhat less passionate sell
than the Yanks but having sold them at Citadel, I can attest to the
fact that adverisers bought them because of their percieved local
connection. (Citadel of course lost the Phillis because they were too
cheap to pony up the yearly license fee which when I left was just
under $7200.00. I mean you sell $100,000 worth of Phillies for a cost
of $7200.00!!! Please!!)
This past baseball season has been one of excitement. A true baseball
fan has had a plethora of pennant races in both leagues that are
going down right to the wire. It's too bad the Yankees did not have
a presence on the broadcast dial locally here because it
would have added to the flavor of the season. The Phillies are
winning, they matter, people listen. That's the formula. You win-
you matter-you get listeners. The only time Jim Ward to my knowledge
had baseball on his radio station was 1969 when he got the broascast
rights to the New York Mets. They won-they mattered-and Ward looked like
a genius.
People will listen to sports on the radio. As long as the sport and
the product matter.
Yonkstur
 
> > > >
> > > >...but the honest
> > reality is that more people here
> > like NYC teams...or some other team that has no local
> > affiliation.I can't stand it when I hear some lame sports
> > that only reads Yankee and Phillie scores.Read em'
> all!!Take
> > a pole amongst friends you'll be surprised!Not to many
> > Phillie or Eagle fans here...actually not many NYC team
> fans
> > either BROTHER!!!
> >
> When I was growing up, my father said that if you were to be
>
> a true sports fan, you had to follow the New York based
> teams.
> His logic was because New York was the cultural center of
> the
> United States. He was a Cardinal fan, shaped by the baseball
> of
> the Gas House Gang of the late 20s and 30s with guys like
> Ducky
> Medwick, Dizzy Dean, etc. But he always had a working
> knowledge
> of the New York teams because while everyone might not have
> been
> loyalists, the teams were always a topic of discussion.
> I became a Cleveland Indians fan in the spring of 1965 when
> I
> became ill and was confined to bed. I began listenming to
> 3WE WWWE
> out of Cleveland and I became a fan of the Tribe. But I
> always
> followed the New York teams because they impacted the rest
> of the
> league.
> In the mid 90s when I worked at Rock 107, WEJL/WBAX obtained
> the
> rights to the New York Yankees. As a salesman for Shamrock,
> this
> was a true bonus because the Yanks, love them or hate them,
> were an
> easy sell. Nothwithstanding the fact that at the time, the
> night time
> signals of WEJL and WBAX were about 400 watts (and the
> majority of
> the games were played at night) selling the Yanks was one of
> the
> best parts of working for Shamrock at the time. There was an
>
> excitement in offering clients a quality product. And as far
> as
> advertisers, I had very few Yankee fans who were my clients,
> these
> were people who bought the advertising because love them or
> hate them,
> they knew the Yankees mattered.
> I understand that ESPN picked up the Phillies because they
> felt
> the Yankee audience began to slip when the YES TV network
> came
> into being. I think that was an excuse because the Yanks did
> raise
> their rates. The Phils are a safe and somewhat less
> passionate sell
> than the Yanks but having sold them at Citadel, I can attest
> to the
> fact that adverisers bought them because of their percieved
> local
> connection. (Citadel of course lost the Phillis because they
> were too
> cheap to pony up the yearly license fee which when I left
> was just
> under $7200.00. I mean you sell $100,000 worth of Phillies
> for a cost
> of $7200.00!!! Please!!)
> This past baseball season has been one of excitement. A true
> baseball
> fan has had a plethora of pennant races in both leagues that
> are
> going down right to the wire. It's too bad the Yankees did
> not have
> a presence on the broadcast dial locally here because it
> would have added to the flavor of the season. The Phillies
> are
> winning, they matter, people listen. That's the formula. You
> win-
> you matter-you get listeners. The only time Jim Ward to my
> knowledge
> had baseball on his radio station was 1969 when he got the
> broascast
> rights to the New York Mets. They won-they mattered-and Ward
> looked like
> a genius.
> People will listen to sports on the radio. As long as the
> sport and
> the product matter.
> Yonkstur
>
Didn't WKRZ AM 1340 broadcast Mets baseball for a year or two?
 
> >
> Didn't WKRZ AM 1340 broadcast Mets baseball for a year or
> two?
>
I think so. I know the Mets fired Joe Torre in September of 1981
so it had to be in the early 80s. I want to say maybe 1982 thru
1984 under the George Bamberger regime
yonkstur
 
>
> connection. (Citadel of course lost the Phillis because they
> were too
> cheap to pony up the yearly license fee which when I left
> was just
> under $7200.00. I mean you sell $100,000 worth of Phillies
> for a cost
> of $7200.00!!! Please!!)
>
> Yonkstur
>
Yonkstur,

Citadel radio got the Yankees at WARM because they had a group deal, they needed the Yanks in Binghamton and Syracuse. You can only run one pro baseball team per station (conflicts). Citadel dropped the Phillies and took the Yankees via a group deal. This deal was beneficial to Citadel in other markets where they have have good AM's that actually make money. By tanking WARM they now make more money running the Yanks in other markets, ultimately a net gain across all of their stations. This is one of the true negatives of the 1996 Telecom ownership rules. After they ran the Yankees for their obligated year they dropped it because of its jacked up price tag from Yes Network and George Steinbrenner. If you are a Yankees fan in NEPA much of the blame goes on Citadel for they're "politics" involving this.

Kevin
 
> >
> > connection. (Citadel of course lost the Phillis because
> they
> > were too
> > cheap to pony up the yearly license fee which when I left
> > was just
> > under $7200.00. I mean you sell $100,000 worth of Phillies
>
> > for a cost
> > of $7200.00!!! Please!!)
> >
> > Yonkstur
> >
> Yonkstur,
>
> Citadel radio got the Yankees at WARM because they had
> a group deal, they needed the Yanks in Binghamton and
> Syracuse. You can only run one pro baseball team per
> station (conflicts). Citadel dropped the Phillies and took
> the Yankees via a group deal. This deal was beneficial to
> Citadel in other markets where they have have good AM's that
> actually make money. By tanking WARM they now make more
> money running the Yanks in other markets, ultimately a net
> gain across all of their stations. This is one of the true
> negatives of the 1996 Telecom ownership rules. After they
> ran the Yankees for their obligated year they dropped it
> because of its jacked up price tag from Yes Network and
> George Steinbrenner. If you are a Yankees fan in NEPA much
> of the blame goes on Citadel for they're "politics"
> involving this.
>
> Kevin
>
I stand corrected on the "how" but certainly not the "why."
Citadel was always making threats to drop the Phils but I did not
know the whole story involving the Yankees. Thanks for sharing it.
Bottom line though involving Citadel and WARM, there was no thought
or regard to the station, its listeners, the Yankees or the
community.
yonkstur
 
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