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Yet another operations manager bites the dust at Clear Channel Atlanta

Yes, the Building of Death has claimed yet another victim: Dan Persighel, operations manager for a whopping nine months, left today. Why? I have no idea. I was trying to reach him to set up an interview with Kidd Chris but alas, the secretary said he no longer works there as of today.

Anybody have any theories out there? The guy was here so briefly, I'm not sure you could say if he did anything, good or bad. He greenlit local talent at WGST, oversaw some of the Wild shifting to more of a Beat sound, watched Project swap out morning hosts and saw the Bull briefly overtake Kicks in key demos, then retreat.
 
Rodney Ho said:
Yes, the Building of Death has claimed yet another victim: Dan Persighel, operations manager for a whopping nine months, left today. Why? I have no idea. I was trying to reach him to set up an interview with Kidd Chris but alas, the secretary said he no longer works there as of today.

Anybody have any theories out there? The guy was here so briefly, I'm not sure you could say if he did anything, good or bad. He greenlit local talent at WGST, oversaw some of the Wild shifting to more of a Beat sound, watched Project swap out morning hosts and saw the Bull briefly overtake Kicks in key demos, then retreat.

Here's an idea... how bout promoting within? Chris Williams? Hell... I think Aly would be great. Everyone loves her, she knows the business, great work ethic...
 
Based on how his stations sound, I think Chris Williams might be a good choice. That said, he might be the only good choice. Two PD's whose reputations are among the best in the business have left in less than a year. I realize a lot of radio people are out of work, but what really good PD is going to want the job?

Then again, Neil Millman might consider it at the right price.
 
you think it may have something to do with
...wgst has never beat newstalk wsb in the last decade
...wild is split over two signals and never comes close to Q100 in almost two years
...bull has never beat kicks in four years, kicks ratings better now than ever
...does this guy speak the language? how do you deal with patron
...project dumbs morning show, still no good ratings, better morning show and music on rock 100

this guy is out because he did not win
building of death, no leadership, no wins
 
Yes, he's out for sure. Unless AllAccess.com and Rodney have suddenly joined in on a conspiracy.
 
dubboy said:
you think it may have something to do with
...wgst has never beat newstalk wsb in the last decade
...wild is split over two signals and never comes close to Q100 in almost two years
...bull has never beat kicks in four years, kicks ratings better now than ever
...does this guy speak the language? how do you deal with patron
...project dumbs morning show, still no good ratings, better morning show and music on rock 100

this guy is out because he did not win
building of death, no leadership, no wins
In order...

...because they dumped their FM signal and AM local news.
...Is Wild that old? It doesn't do too poorly considering it's not an intown 100k.
...the problem isn't The Bull. The problem is, what happened to Peach?
...CC doesn't get Spanish.
...Similarly, what happened to 96 Rock and The Buzz?
 
The Randy Michaels philosophy has been Clear Channel's problem since the merger of CC and Jacor,
Randy is a very smart guy and has made millions in the industry so no one would accuse him of being an idiot. But his idea of cookie cutter radio is fundamentally flawed - and it has been the poster child of everything wrong with radio consolidation.
I hate the "Cincinnati Sound" he brought to all the Jacor stations in Atlanta - the music stations never recovered from his programming influence. WGST has been the victim of budget cutting for years - you can't do an information format without lot's of expensive talent. This idea of doing the cookie cutter, CNN/Weather Channel approach (Randy Michaels, again)is wrong and IMO will never work.
Clear Channel is still successful in many big markets - I wonder why they have such trouble in Atlanta. Maybe they should look outside the company, and outside sales to find someone with a fresh programming approach. And then.....let them lead a locally produced effort to recapture share and revenue........
 
they killed the best brands

...gave up on peach...quit the 96 rock brand
...fired kimmer and good local wgst talent

cc has wrecked good atlanta radio
 
Anyone remember Randy's brilliant "Less is more" campaign? I know we were told NOT to talk more than 30 seconds when I was at 96 Rock. In PMD on a ROCK station! Meanwhile Cindy And Ray were doing 10 min breaks on toilet paper in afternoons and getting strong ratings. They never understood that people don't mind conversation or commercials if the programming is interesting to your demo!
 
Rick Skylar, the infamous PD of WABC in New York City, back in it's heyday of Top 40, had this philosophy regarding morning jocks: put people on the air who most families would like at their breakfast tables every morning. Expand that to every part of the day - put people on the air that other people like. People who are conversationalists.....who have interesting ideas and help listeners reflect on, and understand, the world around them. People who make them like themselves and feel good about the way the think and feel. In other words, people who have a knack for making friends.
Why not let an interesting person talk? Mara Davis talks a lot but consistently pulls big numbers because most of her audience finds her thoughts and reflections interesting. Same for Boortz - people like him and find his ideas interesting......
Many people gravitate to radio because they like to be center of attention while hiding behind a mic. More than a few are not really likable people and we all know jocks who have a real disdain for their listeners.
Clear Channel has become, like most other companies, an organization run by bean counters and sales weasels who have no concept of "showbiz" and really don't know it when they see it. Two generations of FM liner jocks has really lowered the bar for "talent"......we don't encourage on air personality and PD's are constantly coaching talent ot "shut up!"
Why shut up Mara Davis.....or Neal Boortz....or Howard Stern?? Tell Southside Steve to cut off his pony tail and stop being SSS on the air?? Tell Ryan Cameron to only intro songs 4 times and hour and, otherwise, be quiet!!??
We can't blame Randy for what has happened......the era of no personality liner jocks predates his tenure. And Randy was responsible for perhaps one of the best radio format launches in modern radio history....The Power Pig in Tampa. That's the kind of thinking needed in Atlanta.....something new, unexpected, and compelling entertainment. Real freakin' SHOWBIZ!!
The radio industry will soon be taking the backseat to the internet if we don't take things to the next level soon. IBOC is the perfect experimental medium - where is the leadership in that area and why doesn't anyone get it??
 
taylorengineer said:
The radio industry will soon be taking the backseat to the internet if we don't take things to the next level soon. IBOC is the perfect experimental medium - where is the leadership in that area and why doesn't anyone get it??

First of all, are you kidding about IBOC? Is that where you want leadership? Really? Personally I think podcasting and other personalized services have far more potential than a radio service that lacks receivers. The failure of IBOC is one of hardware, not software. There are other, more efficient ways to reach an audience. Until IBOC finds a way to be received on existing radios, it won't succeed, no matter how much time, money, energy, and leadership the radio industry devotes to it.

Second of all, I don't see anything in terms of internet radio that uses the old "rambling personality DJ" model you advocate. The most popular, most threatening internet sites are the ones that shut up and play the music. That includes Pandora, Slacker, and starting tomorrow, iCloud.

Third, I understand there are a lot of radio people who remember how it used to be, and blame companies like CC and Citadel for radio's problems. If they'd just go back to the way radio used to be, the audiences would come back, and everything would be wonderful again. What that line of thinking ignores is we had a huge revolution in content distribution 10-15 years ago. Radio's monopoly went away, just as the music industry's CD monopoly went away, and newspaper's print monoploy went away. So doing the same kind of programming that worked 15 years ago is not the solution today. The marketplace has changed, the cheese has been moved, and we all need to learn how to adapt to a new environment.

Regarding the subject line of this thread, I don't see this particular change in Atlanta as unique to the market. CC is doing a lot of executive housecleaning right now. I suspect there will be even more as they continue to expand in other non-broadcast areas.
 
First. If you build it they will come. This is where innovation is needed.....I do agree we do not need another band of "more music" stations like on analog. That's been almost the only implementation of IBOC to date.......more of the same.
Yes.....this is where leadership begins.....IBOC. Can we, as an industry, able to sell a concept or not. Why would I spend money with your station if you can't even properly create your own business model?
IBOC has failed so far because we have not created any compelling need. Give listeners a reason to want IBOC.....they will then buy the receivers by the gross.
Second - I subscribe to Napster. $60/year with 60 downloads - I use it every single day. But I also want a human connection - I want to visit with Mara Davis every day.....I want to hear what Ryan Cameron, Frank Ski, and Wanda are talking about.....I want to hear Margot's new music digs.....I want "communication" with the world around me. It is coming to the internet.....just wait and see!! When every comedian wannabe gets his/her stream up you will hear "personality" out the ying yang. Some will be terrible.....some will be the next George and Gracie.
Third. Deregulation is what killed the variety. Clear Channel controls over 10% of the radio stations in America. Cumulus will soon control almost that many. In large markets it will be Cumulus, Clear Channel, and CBS with the majority of good signals. You think this was good for the public?? It was good for the Mays family.....it was good for Lew and the boys.....but it has been terrible for everyone else.
I do not advocate yesterday's solutions - that's why I drone on about "going to the next level." Radio MUST evolve beyond music and liner jocks. Content delivery is quickly becoming a non factor......CONTENT is now KING!
Last - Atlanta has been, it seems, without solid direction for some time. Other large markets seem to be really clicking - L.A. and New York, just to name two. Clear Channel needs a creative, color outside the lines programmer to lead and all other management needs to get out of the way! Let this person create brands and make numbers. The GM and sales folks can then focus on sales .....and the bean counters can focus on financials........ and we'll be writing about the miracle in the Building of Death.....
 
taylorengineer said:
First. If you build it they will come. This is where innovation is needed.....I do agree we do not need another band of "more music" stations like on analog. That's been almost the only implementation of IBOC to date.......more of the same.

That's not been NPR's experience. They've invested a lot in original content for HD and it simply hasn't resulted in a lot of new radio purchases. Don't restrict your view of radio to large commercial corporations. The fact is the public has decided it doesn't want to buy new radio-only devices. They can get the content for free elsewhere, and there's really nothing unique, compelling, or exclsuive for radio to put on HD that isn't available elsewhere. The folks at Sirius-XM have the same problem. People aren't buying satellite-only receivers to the degree they used to.

By the same token, it benefits radio to keep the few formats radio has that attracts large numbers on the main channels. Sub-genres and fringe formats are being put on HD, and they simply won't drive a lot of radio purchases. If a station takes a popular format and moves it to HD, it will backfire as that format will get picked up by a competitor on another free station.

taylorengineer said:
Second - I subscribe to Napster. $60/year with 60 downloads - I use it every single day. But I also want a human connection

And as I said, that human connection doesn’t exist in any large degree on the most popular internet platforms. While you want the human connection, it seems that has become a negative for a lot of younger users. So that’s why stations are trying to control the amount of on-air host content, and perhaps moving it to more interactive platforms. On-air talent is seen as a positive in certain formats, like country, oldies, and urban, so it won’t change there. But in AC and other music intensive formats, it’s simply viewed as an interruption.

taylorengineer said:
Third. Deregulation is what killed the variety.

Popular myth, but not true. There are more formats now than before 1996. There are more options for listeners now than before 1996. Still, the most popular can be counted on one hand, and they tend to be the ones with narrow formats. No one forces anyone to use OTA radio, but most still do. The reason is that the vast majority of people don’t seek variety. They want what they like. The big radio companies are in the business of attracting large groups. If large groups of people wanted fringe formats, you’d have more of that on the air. Instead, it goes to HD, satellite, and the internet.

taylorengineer said:
Radio MUST evolve beyond music and liner jocks. Content delivery is quickly becoming a non factor......CONTENT is now KING!

Content may be king, but it’s a very poor kingdom. People want what they want, and they want it for free, without commercials, and at the cheapest cost. You pay $60 a year, but a lot of people won’t. Creating content costs money, and if the public won’t pay, and they hate advertising, that doesn’t do much to encourage creators. The OTA station is becoming the brick & mortar music store, which is to say it’s dying. Until people throw away their computers and cell phone, there’s nothing radio can do to change that. Radio companies have only one choice, and that’s go where the people are. And most of the big companies are doing that with great success.

taylorengineer said:
Clear Channel needs a creative, color outside the lines programmer to lead and all other management needs to get out of the way!

They had one with Scott Lindy, and he came as close as anyone to winning. But competition is tough, and the brands in Atlanta are well established. People like what they like. There…I’ve said it again. As I said earlier, creative content costs money. You need bean counters to watch the money. If content creators were better accountants, they'd do the same thing. I advocate using on-air people in sales calls. When they see how hard it is to get money, they become a lot more co-operative.
 
TheBigA said:
taylorengineer said:
Third. Deregulation is what killed the variety.

Popular myth, but not true. There are more formats now than before 1996. There are more options for listeners now than before 1996. Still, the most popular can be counted on one hand, and they tend to be the ones with narrow formats. No one forces anyone to use OTA radio, but most still do. The reason is that the vast majority of people don’t seek variety. They want what they like. The big radio companies are in the business of attracting large groups. If large groups of people wanted fringe formats, you’d have more of that on the air. Instead, it goes to HD, satellite, and the internet.

Or we can go back to the mid-80s, when ATL had 6 different AC's (or variations thereof), each with a different owner (94Q, Peach, Fox 97, B98.5, Warm 100, and Lite 106).
 
They had one with Scott Lindy, and he came as close as anyone to winning.

He came more than close to winning. Kicks was ahead in 6+, but The Bull was beating Kicks in the demos that matter, 18-49 and 25-54.
 
A couple points of order Roddy.

1) John Hogan was the genius behind Less Is More. Randy had already left the company. LIM should have cost John Hogan his job. Failure like that would have cost any programmer or sales manager their job. Nothing remains of LIM except the jokes told when Hogan isn't around.

2) You could not be more right about Scott Lindy and The Bull. They had passed Kicks in every single demo except 35+. The game was over but Clear Channel didn't know how to handle winning and thought anyone could continue the trend. Not so much.
 
You make some good points, Big A. I, in another thread awhile back, asked the question, "does the media simply reflect society or is society a reflection of the media?" I would guess you believe the media reflects the wishes of society - the market delivers what the customer wants and needs.
I, on the other hand, believe modern society is the product of the media. Television and radio have more power than churches....than teachers....than parents. They are more powerful than any politician or congressional body. They elect our leaders through their influence and they control the social and political agenda. Hillary once said, "it takes a village." The media IS the village. It decides what music we hear - it decides what is discussed at the water cooler - it decides what is an "international crisis" and it decides if there is "global warming." We humans run in a "cultural pack".....we make decisions based on what we think OTHER people think. Very few are true individualists in this modern world of ours.
To address your comments:
1. NPR has failed miserably, as has most other media, at doing compelling programming on their IBOC as well as analog channels. You'll have to come up with a better example than that! I can't think of a group of folks LESS creative.
"A Prarie Home Companion" is the exception and a perfect example of what we need more of in radio. It is unique, creative, oozes personality, and can't be replicated.
2. Kids don't want to hear vacuous jabberjockies talk about "Dancing With the Stars." You're right.....they don't want to hear typical radio personalities. Again......the paradigm must be changed. But I still say human beings will always crave other human company. The internet will open up the wealth of variety in human interaction.....sooner or later.
3. Variety in OWNERSHIP and INPUT. Who cares how many formats of AC there are - they all sound the same and play the same music because they are all programmed by the same people. I do not accept your argument that this is all people want. People are satisfied with a Ford until they drive a Lexus. We're all looking for new experiences to some degree although I do agree we are mostly creatures of habit.
4. Many said they would never pay for satellite. Now they do so they can hear Howard Stern - or the Blues - or bluegrass - or anything out in the middle of nowhere. Who ever thought they would pay $50/month to watch TV? We do because when it was free it was only 3 channels in Atlanta - now there are hundreds.
Innovation will be rewarded by the market one way or the other. If.....it's something people want or need.
5. So what happened to Lindy? Did he leave for a better offer? (he's doing great at Star - the numbers are going up.) That just doesn't make business sense. Which again forces the question.....what's going on with management in Atlanta??
 
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