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You already know which station I'm talking about.

I must admit - I kind of like Lady La. Why can't they put her on in the middle of the day to even out the male to female ratio a bit?

The only problem with this suggestion is that the people already filled in during the day are already good as well, so who would you move? Out of all, I'd say the noon and night shifts shouldn't be messed with because those are the best of the best.

Lady La sounds good by herself, but she doesn't sound like the right person to be alone in the morning. For some reason, if the person must be by themselves, then I believe a guy sounds better as a one person morning show.

Well... I'm glad I don't have to make these decisions at KZON because it's hard to decide whether something should be good this way, or just as good a different way. It's like deciding; how do you want to pick up your sweepstakes money at the center located at the dead end section of the block? You could walk to the location on the left side of the street or the right side of the street..

As a matter of fact, since I'm on the KZON topic, I might as well conveniently slip in some personal thoughts on the station as a whole. I find it funny how when I used to flip around, I wished all this time for more rhythmic style formats in Az, and now that my wish came true, I'm stuck on one station. KZON may not be perfect, but in my book, the entire formula and sound is right up my alley. If only they had mixshow schedule programming and formatting identical to how it's done on WKQI in Detroit, then... I'd probably never work again because that would be so good to me that I'd have to consider every day a holiday. I guess I do have to owe some credit towards the new trends in music sounds and styles as well because what's passing as hit music in 2010 is better than much of what was going on in 2006 and 2007 or so.

Well, I have nothing bad to say.
I wish KZON the best of luck, and hope they remain as resilient as the screens in a drive in movie theater that somehow NEVER seem to receive any damage from Az. storms... (while whole homes and everything else always get blown away or damaged by the two drops of rain and exercise ball sized hail).
 
"For some reason, if the person must be by themselves, then I believe a guy sounds better as a one person morning show."

And the reason is...YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!! Basically what you're saying is that any man sounds better than any woman??! That anything a woman can do, a man can do better??![EDIT*]


[EDIT-inflammatory]
 
OneHorseTown said:
"For some reason, if the person must be by themselves, then I believe a guy sounds better as a one person morning show."

And the reason is...YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!! Basically what you're saying is that any man sounds better than any woman??! That anything a woman can do, a man can do better??![EDIT*]

[EDIT-inflammatory]

....AND now we see how quickly things can be taken out of context and learn why ALL things must be explained in full, precise detail!! ;D

So prepare yourselves for the full detailed version on why I said what I said above - coming whenever I feel like posting it.

By the way, I'm saving this to use as an example for every complaint I get for writing things in full, precise detail for the rest of 2010 - in ALL sections of these boards.

Also, before I even get into it, I want everyone to THINK about what was said in the quote, then THINK about what I said, and you will see the absurdity in it... and I'll be back to speak on it later to explain in full, precise detail WHY I say there's a level of absurdity in it (in addition to the other explanation) ;D

As a matter of fact, this

OneHorseTown said:
"For some reason, if the person must be by themselves, then I believe a guy sounds better as a one person morning show."

And the reason is...YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!! Basically what you're saying is that any man sounds better than any woman??! That anything a woman can do, a man can do better??![EDIT*]

[EDIT-inflammatory]

somewhat reminds me of this!

99KTKT said:
What the heck is a "mix" show, anyway, and why would anyone over the age of 18 or so want to listen to one?

...I'll be back. ;)
 
.......does seem to work that way for NFL on tv...the female is usually relegated to the sideline, and the locker room.....They don't get to do the color commentating.....don't see many SUCCESSFUL pbp females either. (CWS for softball, WNBA not included!)......I believe the same situation applies for radio. If "solo" females on morning shows guaranteed ratings, then I think you'd see more. Are there any female only shows that get ratings/revenue? Not trying to be the "hater" here, just stating the obvious. I mean - its 2010 - what HASNT been tried yet? Oprah, Ellen, at al in the hour long tv talk show can be successful - but drive time radio shows....well, it sure hasnt worked yet. That being said, good luck to Lady La - only time will tell, right?
 
Beth MacDonald on KESZ in Phoenix has been on the air a long, long time in morning drive although she was paired with a male sidekick until his death earlier this year.
 
landtuna said:
Beth MacDonald on KESZ in Phoenix has been on the air a long, long time in morning drive although she was paired with a male sidekick until his death earlier this year.

Co-hosts, not host-and-sidekick. Though Beth was always given top billing ("Bill and Beth" just sounds odd), that was no more a description of their respective roles than it would be to say Roger Barkley was Al Lohman's stooge. (Even if that's how Al would eventually treat him.) And we're a long way from seeing if she holds up as a solo/lead act. Or even if she'll want to, as that PHOENIX MAGAZINE interview clearly has her ambivalent about the show, and wanting to travel while still young enough to enjoy it.

I'm coming up blank on a successful local/non-syndie female-led morning-drive show in either of the two markets with which I'm most familiar (L.A. and Phx). Mids, evenings, overnights, sure. Co-hosts, lots. Close as I can come in mornings, though, would be the early days of Stef & John at KZON, where she was clearly the dominant personality and Holmberg the wacky stooge who did comedy bits for the show -- and even that situation would change dramatically before the first year was out, with Stef reduced to comedic readings of serious news and basically serving as ineffectual den mother to a clearly in-control Holmberg.
 
ykw said:
landtuna said:
Beth MacDonald on KESZ in Phoenix has been on the air a long, long time in morning drive although she was paired with a male sidekick until his death earlier this year.

Co-hosts, not host-and-sidekick. Though Beth was always given top billing ("Bill and Beth" just sounds odd), that was no more a description of their respective roles than it would be to say Roger Barkley was Al Lohman's stooge. (Even if that's how Al would eventually treat him.) And we're a long way from seeing if she holds up as a solo/lead act. Or even if she'll want to, as that PHOENIX MAGAZINE interview clearly has her ambivalent about the show, and wanting to travel while still young enough to enjoy it.

How long has Beth been in that morning chair at 99.9 - it's back to the KLZI days, right?

Can you blame her for wondering if there's more to life than sitting behind a mic and "setting listening appointments"?

Get your passport, Beth. You've more than earned it.

But anyone who wonders if a female can carry a morning show should check with Beth McDonald and prepare to get their butt kicked. It's a question of talent, not gender.

It's time for more women to carry mornings. I'm not convinced that every morning show needs two "wacky" guys with a woman who giggles and says "oh stop you guys."

The only thing in the way are the managers who don't grow their talent.
 
ykw said:
landtuna said:
Beth MacDonald on KESZ in Phoenix has been on the air a long, long time in morning drive although she was paired with a male sidekick until his death earlier this year.

Co-hosts, not host-and-sidekick.

That definition is probably much more a distinction to those of you in the bidness than listeners in the street.
 
Ok so I spoke, received pretty much a predictable type of response for praising the station I did, acknowledged the response to some degree, said I'll be back, then left to let the suspense marinate.

NOW I'M BACK!

Are you ready? Ok.. here it goes!

OneHorseTown said:
"For some reason, if the person must be by themselves, then I believe a guy sounds better as a one person morning show."

And the reason is...YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!! Basically what you're saying is that any man sounds better than any woman??!  That anything a woman can do, a man can do better??! [EDIT*]


[EDIT-inflammatory]

* No where, not even once, did I say ANY MAN sounds better than ANY WOMAN!!! If this were the case and that's what I believed, then I wouldn't want to mix up the mainly male dominated on-air schedule with MORE females.

* To go as far as to say that I'm basically saying anything a woman can do, a man can do better - and arrive to this conclusion BASED PURELY ON the fact I said a male sounds better in the morning if its to be a one person show, contains a level of absurdity, because;

1. That is assuming that I must favor and believe the morning shift is superior to all the other shifts. Why? Because that is the ONLY WAY I can explain receiving this type of response - all based purely on the fact that I said "For some reason, if the person must be by themselves, then I believe a guy sounds better - as a one person morning show" . There is no #2 to this because that's the only sensible conclusion I can think of (in addition to the fact that I think that this 1 example alone is enough)  ;)

* I also remember mentioning that if anything were to be changed up, the noon and night shift should be left alone because those are the best of the best. (I REPEAT... The noon AND the night shift. Not EVENING shift, but NIGHT shift. Maybe I didn't clarify that before, but now that's all besides the point since I'm going to clarify everything now. If I thought a man was superior to a woman, then why would I even bother to include the NIGHT shift?

OH, and

KDM 7000 said:
Whatever they do, they should keep Jasmine at KZON...

KDM 7000 said:
1. The male to female on-air ratio - I wish there was a bit more female voice action going on during the week and more of an evened out male to female on-air schedule. I am glad that my wish for more Jasmine (that I brought up here a few times in the past) did finally come true (hmmmm).....

2. More Mixshows - I wish more mix shows would be considered. I'm not asking for them to overdo it, but just adding in a basic noon (whether back in the day or current rhythmic hits) and evening (around 9, or 10p-midnight) mixshow in addition to what they already have going on would be quite lovely. .... A late night show similar to San Fransisco's Club 99.7 on KMVQ would be perfect as well on weekends.. Holiday's and weekends sound fine as they are, but something on Sunday nights would be great, too.

Now......

Where shall I even begin? ..Or need I even say anymore?

AND which portion of the day is it safe to assume that I'm most fascinated with and fancy the most? How does one conclude that me preferring a male in the morning means that I must think a man is better - IF I obviously love and listen to the afternoon, evening and NIGHT shifts the most (even to the point I've studied OUT OF TOWN stations - AT NIGHT!)?  ;D


KDM 7000 said:
I think Nessa just does a great job overall... but that's just me. I think I recall Jasmine also being a weekend jock on KZON. I guess I don't have to say much more because you can assume if I'm remembering Jasmine, then there must be a reason why. Last but not least, I'll just say that there are also other things Lysa D is great at, so hopefully soon, she'll have the chance to also use and show those talents at the station as well....

- THE WHOLE THING GETS BOLD PRINT!!! -

KDM 7000 said:
I doubt at least a 20 minute quick mix (or two) every evening would not hurt. I also want Jasmine to have more airtime as well. 

POWER 98.3
I do wish they kept the girl for the "more hit music in 60 seconds".

KZZP..and I also have to admit I love Special K's attitude. She is a great gal.

KDM 7000 said:
Whoever that girl is on Saturday Nights, I love her. I'm not saying Nessa was bad, but.. I like Nessa when I'm in L.A. At least now there's someone local to Atl. on (at least I believe she's an Atl. local).

Mami Chula sounds like someone I would like....

KDM 7000 said:
Well I think she's sounding good. What more can I say?


WHOA............!!!!!

OH BOY!!! ...  good grief....... MAN!!!!(no pun intended) ......

__________________________________________________________________________________/

I must say the women in my life in 2010 must be EXTREMELY lucky because I'm just a Lovely Lady La.. Luv.. um, Lovely Lady Lovin' son of a ... ah, um... ah..... well, ...|



BUT!!!!!!

BUT!!!!!!

I will not FULLY discredit the fact that I might be an idiot to SOME degree, and I will explain why I say this, later..  ;)
 
....guess I mis-understood. I was getting to he idea of solo - or female only teams. Are there women on the radio - of course. What are the longest running shows here in the valley? In the markets history - what are the longest? And of these lists, where are the solo female - or 2 female team shows? Have there been any? While there are long-standing women on the air (and deservedly so!), I think they are either non-AM shows, or usually part of a male/female team.
 
KDM 7000, I dont know if you've ever been an on-air personality, but if you haven't, here's the deal... Mornings are superior to any other daypart. It pays more, it's more prestigious...Mornings are the coveted slot. Period. Top of the food chain, baby.

My problem with your post is that you said you preferred a man more. Which is your prerogative...but in my opinion, it's really narrow-minded.

I say this only because for whatever reason, you (& a lot of other people) think it's OK to say that! It's NOT. If I wouldve posted, "I really prefer a white guy in Mornings," or "I only want to listen to a gay Jew" then I would be crucified!

Talking about race, religion and/or sexual orientation is totally off-limits in society today...but I guess it's OK to talk about gender.

And I'm sorry, KDM 7000, for attacking you personally. It showed a lack of restraint on my part, and I apologize.
It just gets old!
xoxo
 
OneHorseTown said:
I say this only because for whatever reason, you (& a lot of other people) think it's OK to say that!  It's NOT.  If I wouldve posted, "I really prefer a white guy in Mornings," or "I only want to listen to a gay Jew" then I would be crucified!

Talking about race, religion and/or sexual orientation is totally off-limits in society today...but I guess it's OK to talk about gender.
 
xoxo

NOPE! INCORRECT.  ;D

It IS ok to say it! As a matter of fact, it is ok to say EVERYTHING listed above. Just because a large amount of people or most of society would choose to act stupidly as a result of someone saying it, doesn't mean freedom of speech does not exist. You must also take into consideration the context and WHY someone is saying what their saying.. but, let me not get too deep into that. While most people would be crucifying the other guy, I'd be sitting back, acknowledging and accepting the right to free speech, regardless if I liked what they said or not!

I'll also be forced to accept that people have the right to be stupid and not use common sense, so all the rioting, people screaming "racist", and crucification that follows will also be out of control, regardless of how absurd I thought it was.

If you posted it, then maybe it would cause a big deal or be removed..etc. Well, that doesn't change the fact that freedom of speech exists and just as there is no law towards people acting stupid (as long as it doesn't get out of control), there is no law against being offensive. Maybe forum rules and general consequences, but no laws or commandments.

The problem with society today is "everybody" is so afraid of offending, and there is always another group of "everybody's" who are quick to over react to every little thing instead of THINKING about it first. It also doesn't help when I'm here saying "it's ok" then the next person in another situation will be telling you "it's not ok" for them... for whatever reasoning they have to back up the fact that they chose to be offended. This is what causes confusion amongst different groups of people.

Oh well.

Before I slide off topic... which I was very much on the verge of doing, I should get back to the REAL reason we're having this discussion - the only reason I said a male sounds better was because I WASN'T THINKING completely about how I was saying it and why, and was simply referring to the fact that I liked Gringo Suave's style of being a one man morning show

AND THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS WHY I AM AT LEAST 27% IDIOT, FOLKS!!!

THE CAT is OUT OF THE BAG, ONCE AGAIN!  ;D

(Ok - maybe I'm being a little too generous - 37% is more accurate!  ;D) I didn't think about what I was saying fully, and was quick to say it - based purely on the fact that I liked Gringo Suave's style of delivering some form of laid back morning entertainment and keeping the talk to a minimum with more music. That was the "perfect" style for a one person morning show, rather than trying to overdo the job. I'm sure Lady La is just as good, but it's just that I'm not used to it yet, since I've mostly been asleep from 6am until 1pm.... Or 12:20  ;D (That joke is only for SOME people to get!)

Mornings may be superior in general radio land, but not for me personally, the one who personally thinks .. thought that...  said that...well, etcetera etcetera and so forth and so on.
 
KDM 7000 said:
the only reason I said a male sounds better was because I WASN'T THINKING completely about how I was saying it and why, and was simply referring to the fact that I liked Gringo Suave's style of being a one man morning show

AND THAT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IS WHY I AM AT LEAST 27% IDIOT, FOLKS!!!

..37%

..And once again, I mess up in my speech!

The reason I was an idiot was for not thinking, not for liking Gringo Suave's light, laid back easy going morning show style. Geez! If I keep messing up like this, I will eventually reach 100% and then that would defeat the entire purpose of my rebuttal!!!!
 
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