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You Have No Alternative Across The Nation

Across the nation why are the alternative radio stations always the first to go?

Source: FMQB.com
CBS Radio will have its tenth "Free FM" station when it flips Alternative KZON/Phoenix to Talk on Tuesday, January 3, leaving crosstown KEDJ as the lone Alternative in the market. However, The Zone will be playing music late nights and on weekends, which will be called "Free Rock Weekends," highlighting "the best music from today, the `90s and Rock’s past.” By the way, Adam Carolla had already been announced as Howard Stern's replacement on The Zone.

Clear Channel's Alternative in Madison, Wisconsin, WMAD, flipped to County as "96.3 Star Country" at midnight on December 23, leaving PD Brad Savage and MD Leslie Scott looking for their next opportunities. The station is currently in the midst of a playing 10,000 songs in-a-row commercial-free.
 
> Across the nation why are the alternative radio stations
> always the first to go?
>

My guess would be that it's always about the Benjamins. If it had been a money-maker, it'd still be pumping out Alternative.
 
Re: LONG LIVE ROCK...um, as long as it ain't on commercial radio...

> > Across the nation why are the alternative radio stations
> > always the first to go?
> >
>
> My guess would be that it's always about the Benjamins. If
> it had been a money-maker, it'd still be pumping out
> Alternative.
>


Y100su if you were "true" to the movement, you wouldn't want alt rock on the radio right now. It's much cooler to be an "early adopter" of the current alt rock underground "scene". It's alive and well in small clubs and on da inner net...

www.Y100rocks.com

Send in a $5 donation this weekend and Josh "Tight Tones" Landow will play any song you want!

Go to The Khyber, The Fire, Grape Street, or NYC sometime and you might just catch your next favorite band.

"Rock" will rise from the ashes the same way it has in the past...this time though, I am willing to bet that it's not going to be on commercial terrestrial radio. And with the return of rock, I think that little internet station that could - Y100rocks.com - will be surfing high on that next wave and into very popular success.
 
Re: LONG LIVE ROCK...um, as long as it ain't on commercial radio...

Why is Wexler the only smart Alternative fan around here?
 
Re: LONG LIVE ROCK...um, as long as it ain't on commercial radio...

The problem with rock radio may in fact be a sea change.

The traditional audience for rock radio, young men, is today more likely to listen to rap and hip-hop than to rock.

Hence, many rock stations are in trouble and one reason (but not the only one; certainly, there are local market conditions in many of these cases) so many rock stations are changing formats.

Believe it or not, many markets may not have any rock stations by this time next year. The change is that profound.
 
Re: It is 1989 all over again!

Soooo not so...first of all, young men like their gadgets, so it's not that they are gravitating to rap or hip hop, they are moving to iPods and Sirius and XM Sat Radio. Next, "history never repeats, I tell myself everytime I go to sleep"...check this out:

Top songs from 1989:
*1 LOOK AWAY, Chicago (Reprise) (#1, Dec 1988)
*2 MY PREROGATIVE, Bobby Brown (MCA) (#1, Jan)
*3 EVERY ROSE HAS ITS THORN, Poison (Enigma) (#1, Dec 1988)
*4 STRAIGHT UP, Paula Abdul (Virgin) (#1, Feb)
*5 MISS YOU MUCH, Janet Jackson (A&M) (#1, Oct)
*6 COLD HEARTED, Paula Abdul (Virgin) (#1, Sept)
*7 WIND BENEATH MY WINGS, Bette Midler (Atlantic) (#1, June)
8 GIRL YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE, Milli Vanilli (Arista) (#2, April)
*9 BABY, I LOVE YOUR WAY/FREEBIRD MEDLEY (Free Baby), Will To Power (Epic) (#1, Dec 1988)
10 GIVING YOU THE BEST THAT I GOT, Anita Baker (Elektra) (#3, Dec 1988)
*11 RIGHT HERE WAITING, Richard Marx (EMI) (#1, Aug)
12 WAITING FOR A STAR TO FALL, Boy Meets Girl (RCA) (#5, Dec 1988)
*13 LOST IN YOUR EYES, Debbie Gibson (Atlantic) (#1, March)
*14 DON'T WANNA LOSE YOU, Gloria Estefan (Epic) (#1, Sept)
15 HEAVEN, Warrant (Columbia) (#2, Sept)
*16 GIRL I'M GONNA MISS YOU, Milli Vanilli (Arista) (#1, Sept)
*17 THE LOOK, Roxette (EMI) (#1, April)
*18 SHE DRIVES ME CRAZY, Fine Young Cannibals (I.R.S.) (#1, April)
19 ON OUR OWN, Bobby Brown (MCA) (#2, Aug)
*20 TWO HEARTS, Phil Collins (Atlantic) (#1, Jan)
*21 BLAME IT ON THE RAIN, Milli Vanilli (Arista) (#1, Nov)
*22 LISTEN TO YOUR HEART, Roxette (EMI) (#1, Nov)
*23 I'LL BE THERE FOR YOU, Bon Jovi (Mercury) (#1, May)
*24 IF YOU DON'T KNOW ME BY NOW, Simply Red (Elektra) (#1, July)
*25 LIKE A PRAYER, Madonna (Sire) (#1, April)
*26 I'LL BE LOVING YOU (Forever), The New Kids On the Block (Columbia) (#1, June)
27 HOW CAN I FALL, Breathe (A&M) (#3, Dec 1988)
*28 BABY DON'T FORGET MY NUMBER, Milli Vanilli (Arista) (#1, July)
*29 TOY SOLDIERS, Martika (Columbia) (#1, July)
*30 FOREVER YOUR GIRL, Paula Abdul (Virgin) (#1, May)
*31 THE LIVING YEARS, Mike + the Mechanics (Atlantic) (#1, March)
*32 ETERNAL FLAME, The Bangles (Columbia) (#1, April)
33 WILD THING, Tone Loc (Delicious Vinyl) (#2, Feb)
*34 WHEN I SEE YOU SMILE, Bad English (Epic) (#1, Nov)
35 IF I COULD TURN BACK TIME, Cher (Geffen) (#3, Sept)
36 BUFFALO STANCE, Neneh Cherry (Virgin) (#3, June)
*37 WHEN I'M WITH YOU, Sheriff (Capitol) (#1, Feb)
38 DON'T RUSH ME, Taylor Dayne (Arista) (#2, Jan)
39 BORN TO BE MY BABY, Bon Jovi (Mercury) (#3, Feb)
*40 GOOD THING, Fine Young Cannibals (I.R.S.) (#1, July)
41 THE LOVER IN ME, Sheena Easton (MCA) (#2, March)
42 BUST A MOVE, Young M.C. (Delicious Vinyl) (#7, Oct)
43 ONCE BITTEN, TWICE SHY, Great White (Capitol) (#5, Aug)
*44 BATDANCE, Prince (Warner Brothers) (#1, Aug)
*45 ROCK ON, Michael Damian (Cypress) (#1, June)
46 REAL LOVE, Jody Wately (MCA) (#2, May)
47 LOVE SHACK, The B-52's (Reprise) (#3, Nov)
48 EVERY LITTLE STEP, Bobby Brown (MCA) (#3, June)
*49 HANGIN' TOUGH, The New Kids On the Block (Columbia) (#1, Sept)
50 MY HEART CAN'T TELL YOU NO, Rod Stewart (Warner Brothers) (#4, April)
51 SO ALIVE, Love & Rockets (Big Time) (#3, Aug)
52 YOU GOT IT (The Right Stuff), The New Kids On the Block (Columbia) (#3, March)
53 ARMAGEDDON IT, Def Leppard (Mercury) (#3, Jan)
*54 SATISFIED, Richard Marx (EMI) (#1, June)
55 EXPRESS YOURSELF, Madonna (Sire) (#2, July)
56 I LIKE IT, Dino (4th & Broadway) (#7, Aug)
57 SOLDIER OF LOVE, Donny Osmond (Virgin) (#2, June)
58 SOWING THE SEEDS OF LOVE, Tears For Fears (Fontana) (#2, Oct)
59 CHERISH, Madonna (Sire) (#2, Oct)
60 WHEN THE CHILDREN CRY, White Lion (Atlantic) (#3, Feb)
61 18 AND LIFE, Skid Row (Atlantic) (#4, Sept)
62 I DON'T WANT YOUR LOVE, DuranDuran (Capitol) (#4, Dec 1988)
63 SECOND CHANCE, Thirty Eight Special (A&M) (#6, May)
64 THE WAY YOU LOVE ME, Karyn White (Warner Brothers) (#7, Feb)
65 FUNKY COLD MEDINA, Tone Loc (Delicious Vinyl) (#3, April)
66 IN YOUR ROOM, The Bangles (Columbia) (#5, Jan)
67 MISS YOU LIKE CRAZY, Natalie Cole (EMI) (#7, July)
68 LOVE SONG, The Cure (Elektra) (#2, Oct)
69 SECRET RENDEZVOUS, Karyn White (Warner Brothers) (#6, Aug)
70 ANGEL EYES, The Jeff Healey Band (Arista) (#5, Sept)
71 PATIENCE, Guns N' Roses (Geffen) (#4, June)
72 WALK ON WATER, Eddie Money (Columbia) (#9, Dec 1988)
73 COVER GIRL, The New Kids On the Block (Columbia) (#2, Nov)
74 WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE, Guns N' Roses (Geffen) (#7, Jan)
75 SHOWER ME WITH YOUR LOVE, Surface (Columbia) (#5, Sept)
76 STAND, R.E.M. (Warner Brothers) (#6, April)
77 CLOSE MY EYES FOREVER, Lita Ford (with Ozzy Osbourne) (RCA) (#8, June)
78 ALL THIS TIME, Tiffany (MCA) (#6, Feb)
79 AFTER ALL, Cher and Per Cetera (Geffen) (#6, May)
80 RONI, Bobby Brown (MCA) (#3, March)
81 LOVE IN AN ELEVATOR, Aerosmith (Geffen) (#5, Oct)
82 LAY YOUR HANDS ON ME, Bon Jovi (Mercury) (#7, July)
83 THE PROMISE, When In Rome (Virgin) (#11, Dec 1988)
84 WHAT I AM, Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians (Geffen) (#7, March)
85 I REMEMBER HOLDING YOU, The Boys Club (MCA) (#8, Jan)
86 PARADISE CITY, Guns N' Roses (Geffen) (#5, March)
87 I WANNA HAVE SOME FUN, Samantha Fox (Jive) (#8, Feb)
88 SHE WANTS TO DANCE WITH ME, Rick Astley (RCA) (#6, Feb)
89 DREAMIN', Vanessa Williams (Wing) (#8, April)
90 IT'S NO CRIME, Babyface (Solar) (#7, Oct)
91 POISON, Alice Cooper (Epic) (#7, Nov)
92 THIS TIME I KNOW IT'S FOR REAL, Donna Summer (Atlantic) (#7, June)
93 SMOOTH CRIMINAL, Michael Jackson (Epic) (#7, Jan)
94 HEAVEN HELP ME, Deon Estus (with George Michael) (Mika) (#5, April)
95 ROCK WIT'CHA, Bobby Brown (MCA) (#7, Nov)
96 THINKING OF YOU, Sa-Fire (Cutting) (#12, May)
97 WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW, Expose (Arista) (#8, July)
98 SURRENDER TO ME, Ann Wilson and Robin Zander (Capitol) (#6, March)
99 THE END OF THE INNOCENCE, Don Henley (Geffen) (#8, Aug)
100 KEEP ON MOVIN', Soul II Soul (Featuring Caron Wheeler) (Virgin) (#11, Sept)


Here are the songs that even closely resemble "rock" or "alternative":

*3 EVERY ROSE HAS ITS THORN, Poison (Enigma) (#1, Dec 1988)
15 HEAVEN, Warrant (Columbia) (#2, Sept)
*23 I'LL BE THERE FOR YOU, Bon Jovi (Mercury) (#1, May)
39 BORN TO BE MY BABY, Bon Jovi (Mercury) (#3, Feb)
43 ONCE BITTEN, TWICE SHY, Great White (Capitol) (#5, Aug)
53 ARMAGEDDON IT, Def Leppard (Mercury) (#3, Jan)
61 18 AND LIFE, Skid Row (Atlantic) (#4, Sept)
76 STAND, R.E.M. (Warner Brothers) (#6, April)
81 LOVE IN AN ELEVATOR, Aerosmith (Geffen) (#5, Oct)
84 WHAT I AM, Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians (Geffen) (#7, March)
86 PARADISE CITY, Guns N' Roses (Geffen) (#5, March)
91 POISON, Alice Cooper (Epic) (#7, Nov)

If white males are currently more likely to listen to rap and hip hop, then what about the entire male population during 1989? By that line of thinking we should all be Gay by now. I can't think of a more emasculating musical year than 1989. What I did during that time was discover Led Zep, Bowie, The Who...and it appears that so did those influencial bands during rock's most recent heyday.

Today simply is 1989 all over again...I am willing to tolerate another 2 years of this crap if it means that I get the next wave of Nirvana /Pearl Jam / RHCP / Sound Garden...but for right now, the music ain't there.

And what if that "new" wave came out of Philly? Now that would be cool...especially since only that "little internet site that could" is playing local music.




> The problem with rock radio may in fact be a sea change.
>
> The traditional audience for rock radio, young men, is today
> more likely to listen to rap and hip-hop than to rock.
>
> Hence, many rock stations are in trouble and one reason (but
> not the only one; certainly, there are local market
> conditions in many of these cases) so many rock stations are
> changing formats.
>
> Believe it or not, many markets may not have any rock
> stations by this time next year. The change is that
> profound.
>
 
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