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"You Really Got Me" without "Eruption"

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Is this allowed on rock radio?

I was just going from one channel to another seeing what was going on and Charlotte's WRFX, after a station ID, started up "You Really Got Me", without that long introduction.

For the longest time I heard people say "Eruption" was the greatest guitar solo, and I wondered how anything could be better than the long version of 'You Really Got Me"--until I saw how short each song actually was and how one comes right after the other on the album.
 
It depends on the station. A classic rock station that stays more with the "hits" may play just "You Really Got Me" while others that have a deeper playlist, or a more harder-edged one, may play the "Eruption" intro. Before the days of computers running radio stations, it was common to hear a mix of both on any given station. Maybe it depended on jock preference, or where they were in the hour and either needed to catch up or shorten things. If I were a classic rock PD, I'd keep "Eruption" in.

Same argument could be made with "Intruder" into "Oh Pretty Woman."

Jacko
 
That my friends is my pet peeve. Its the difference between "Classic Rock" or should I say wanna be Rock and "Album Rock, Progressive Rock" stations like the one in my signature. I'll never play the short versions of any song. What is worse its hard to actually buy the albums for most of the damn record companies are forcing "Greatest hits" which there is a difference between "greatest hits" and "best of" or "anthology" series.

America is really being dumb down and jacked up so bad lately.
 
thelegacy said:
That my friends is my pet peeve. Its the difference between "Classic Rock" or should I say wanna be Rock and "Album Rock, Progressive Rock" stations like the one in my signature. I'll never play the short versions of any song. What is worse its hard to actually buy the albums for most of the damn record companies are forcing "Greatest hits" which there is a difference between "greatest hits" and "best of" or "anthology" series.

America is really being dumb down and jacked up so bad lately.
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WRFX is a "classic rock" station, as opposed to "classic hits", though I have heard Fleetwood Mac and even Stevie Wonder.

The local "classic hits" station is described that way but the designation is pretty much meaningless. The station is what album rock or progressive rock was in the 70s, though that doesn't explain Marvin Gaye or The Temptations, or Stevie Wonder. They don't generally do the harder stuff so I wouldn't expect "Eruption" there.
 
100.7 The River has just tweaked their format still Classic Rock but playing STP, Nirvana, Metallica. They play the album versions of every song. They like the Fox are owned by Clear Channel but play Eruption with You Really Got Me and Intruder with Oh, Pretty Woman. I have compared to a couple days ago The River sounds a million times better. Now I'm just wondering if they are going to change the moniker, The River doesn't fit anymore.
 
Classic rock station are really evolving so the deeper cuts and extended versions are becoming less and less frequent. Back in the 90s, it was not uncommon to hear Long Distance Runaround/The Fish by YES or Speak to Me/Breathe/On the Run by Pink Floyd on classic rock and mainstream rock station but now, if those more progressive style songs are played, usually its just the "main" song of the group. There are a few stations that are the exception to the rule including KZ106 in Chattanooga, TN and of course, Classic Vinyl on Sirus/XM.

When was the last time you heard Traveling Man/Beautiful Loser by Bob Sieger on Classic Rock radio? These were all big hits that were played on classic rock radio just 10 years ago but now you never hear. Classic Rock radio is evolving.
 
acheron82 said:
When was the last time you heard Traveling Man/Beautiful Loser by Bob Seger on Classic Rock radio? These were all big hits that were played on classic rock radio just 10 years ago but now you never hear.
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Those two still play back-to-back on 105.9 the Rock here in Nashville. You can't play one of those without the other. It just wouldn't make sense.
 
Yeah, I can't believe I'm saying this but the classic rock stations put out by Clear Channel are not all that bad. To be honest with you, it's the classic hits (that lean rock) stations that really dig pretty dip, ironically.

Cumulus has awful classic rock stations.

KSHE out of St. Louis is pretty good but they are also leaning more modern (80s).

Of course, I personally feel KZ106 out of Chattanogga has the best classic rock station.
 
I've been seeing this pop up for a while and finally read this thread.

I'm not sure I have ever heard what is being described here.
I see my dub of my original 45 runs about 2min 11sec, so why the need to shorten it more?
That song ONLY starts with a single guitar. At what point does this "other edit start?
Abruptly at the vocal?
 
Tom Wells said:
I'm not sure I have ever heard what is being described here.
I see my dub of my original 45 runs about 2min 11sec, so why the need to shorten it more?
That song ONLY starts with a single guitar. At what point does this "other edit start?
Abruptly at the vocal?
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You're thinking of the original Kinks version, the discussion here has been about the Van Halen 1978 remake (which the 45 version goes 2:35)
 
To me, "Eruption" and "You Really Got Me" sound like two separate tracks, definitely NOT a medley, so it wouldn't surprise me too much NOT to hear "Eruption" with "You Really Got Me," even on a classic rock station. I don't recall ever hearing them together on my own local classic rocker, a CC station. But then again, I am not that much of a VH fan, so I never really noticed.

But the other day, I heard them play Steve Miller Band's "Fly Like an Eagle," complete with "Space Intro" in front of it! I can't recall ever having heard it played on the radio that way before! Even when I listen to it on my own CD, I usually skip it past "Space Intro" because I have always considered it boring! (I would actually prefer that they let it track into "Wild Mountain Honey" instead, but that is a separate song, itself about five minutes in length.)
 
Even on my "Van Halen" CD (and minidisc, for that matter) they're written in the TOC as two seperate tracks. I'd think the brief banding in between them would negate the idea that they should, or were intended to, be treated as a medley.
 
Sometimes I prefer a cover version of a song over the original.
Sometimes they seem equally good.
In the case of Van Halen's cover of "You Really Got Me", it goes the other way, and I'd rather that I'd never heard it.

Nothing against Van Halen, but just... " ewww" on their cover of that song.
 
I don't mind "medleys" when they're supposed to fit together, like "Intruder" into "Oh, Pretty Woman." As far as "Eruption," it's my feeling that it's played in front of "You Really Got Me" because it has that notoriety as being one of the great guitar tracks, and pairing them together still gives you a track length of under 4:30.

Interesting enough, nearly the entire B side of The Beatles' Abbey Road is meant to be a medley. Often you hear of the "Golden Slumbers Medley" and the "Sun King Medley," but from the song "You Never Give Me Your Money" to "The End," comprising of 8 tracks all relatively short, was intended to be a medley. What was NOT intended to be a medley was Led Zeppelin's "Heartbreaker/Living Loving Maid." I know Zeppelin members have shunned this practice by radio, and if I recall correctly, have never actually played "Living Loving Maid" in concert (but have played "Heartbreaker" quite a bit.)

And another odd medley that I hear on my local classic rocker, 100.7 WZLX/Boston is the Doors "Peace Frog/Blue Sunday." Yes, one fades into the other, but they are totally different songs. However they seem to often play the single version of Pink Floyd's "Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2)", so go figure...

Jacko
 
Jacko said:
Interesting enough, nearly the entire B side of The Beatles' Abbey Road is meant to be a medley. Often you hear of the "Golden Slumbers Medley" and the "Sun King Medley," but from the song "You Never Give Me Your Money" to "The End," comprising of 8 tracks all relatively short, was intended to be a medley. What was NOT intended to be a medley was Led Zeppelin's "Heartbreaker/Living Loving Maid." I know Zeppelin members have shunned this practice by radio, and if I recall correctly, have never actually played "Living Loving Maid" in concert (but have played "Heartbreaker" quite a bit.)
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I disagree, but only slightly. I see side two of Abbey Road as being two medleys. Beginning with "You Never Give..." and going through "...Bathroom Window" is one, with the "Golden Slumbers" medley being the other. There is a brief pause between "...Bathroom Window" and "Golden Slumbers."

There is another issue, too. Such long form medleys are hardly ever played on radio anymore, partly because even classic rock radio has become more "hits" oriented (as someone here previously said), but partly because such longform medleys used to serve (ironically enough) as "bathroom songs" for djs. Since everything is all computerized now, and programming can be loaded into the computer in blocks of at least an hour at a time, the lengths of the individual songs (within that block of programming) really does not matter anymore. Only that they have enough programming loaded into the computer to fill up that hourlong block of programming. And of course, now they try to make it more "hit-packed." So about all we ever hear from Abbey Road anymore is "Something," "Come Together," and "Here Comes the Sun."
 
Tom Wells said:
Sometimes I prefer a cover version of a song over the original.
Sometimes they seem equally good.
In the case of Van Halen's cover of "You Really Got Me", it goes the other way, and I'd rather that I'd never heard it.

Nothing against Van Halen, but just... " ewww" on their cover of that song.
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Agreed. Nothing can touch the original version of that song - in all it's low tech glory.
 
Just like WILS 101 FM did in the 70s till 1984 in Lansing Michigan where I use to live they played Led Zeppelin - Heartbreaker/Living Loving Maid as one song. The Legacy will follow that trend as an Album Rock station and play it as intended for True Album Rock Audiophiles. The Legacy will always stride towards this practice and help alleviate you from the shackles of chart Rock/Hits Radio. Same thing goes for The Beatles, Van Halen, Rush, Yes and many more. It is a sack religious practice to do otherwise and call yourself a "Classic Rock, Progressive Rock, Album Rock, AOR station. Its been my pet peeve for years thanks to corporate greed and the RIAA and re mastering to CD. If necessary a "real" album rock station should use an mp3 joiner to accomplish this.
 
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