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Your 2018 general TV predictions (or guesses)

joebtsflk1 said:
Back to more mundane TV matters, 2018 might finally be the year that the Ottumwa IA -Kirksville MO and the Quincy IL - Hannibal MO DMAs merge to become Tri-States IA-IL-MO. (I did say it was mundane, didn't I?)

This would be accomplished by Quincy Newspapers acquiring FOX affiliate KYOU-TV 15 Ottumwa, in turn Quincy-owned flagship WGEM-TV 10 would place its NBC programming on a subchannel of KYOU. Sinclair already owns the other stations in each market, KTVO 3 Kirksville and KHQA-TV 7 Hannibal (CBS).

The current big 4 network line-up is: WGEM 10.1 NBC, 10.2 FOX; KHQA 7.1 CBS, 7.2 ABC; KTVO 3.1 ABC, 3.2 CBS; and KYOU 15.1 FOX. The Ottumwa-Kirksville market doesn't have an NBC outlet. After the market merge, each station would appear as a subchannel on the other co-owned station in the market.
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Speaking from about 100 miles east of Quincy, I have always hoped to see that happen--hoping it does this year or in the future.

Plus CW on both .3's of WGEM and KYOU. Maybe change KYOU's call letters to KGEM-TV.

Also, both KHQA and KTVO carry Comet (they're both Sinclair stations) on their .3's. But despite being two small markets, I've always thought it would be great for Sinclair to have started a "My Tri-States" secondary My affiliation (with identical programming) for both KHQA-7.3 and KTVO-3.3, instead of Comet.

PBS access will be a weak link in that market, however. Even though the Iowa part of that market (and immediate areas in Missouri and Illinois) will have Iowa Public Television access, in Quincy PBS is only available via a full-power repeater of a Springfield-based PBS regional network (but the offices are actually in suburban Chatham, IL) which has been struggling financially in recent years: Network Knowledge (WQEC-27.1/2/3 Quincy, also available in a combined Kirksville/Ottumwa/Quincy/Hannibal market on WMEC-22.1/2/3 Macomb, IL--as well as WSEC-14.1/2/3 Jacksonville/Springfield).

Also Quincy has a religious station (Christian Television Network) on WTJR-16.1.
 
joebtsflk1 said:
Back to more mundane TV matters, 2018 might finally be the year that the Ottumwa IA -Kirksville MO and the Quincy IL - Hannibal MO DMAs merge to become Tri-States IA-IL-MO. (I did say it was mundane, didn't I?)

This would be accomplished by Quincy Newspapers acquiring FOX affiliate KYOU-TV 15 Ottumwa, in turn Quincy-owned flagship WGEM-TV 10 would place its NBC programming on a subchannel of KYOU. Sinclair already owns the other stations in each market, KTVO 3 Kirksville and KHQA-TV 7 Hannibal (CBS).

The current big 4 network line-up is: WGEM 10.1 NBC, 10.2 FOX; KHQA 7.1 CBS, 7.2 ABC; KTVO 3.1 ABC, 3.2 CBS; and KYOU 15.1 FOX. The Ottumwa-Kirksville market doesn't have an NBC outlet. After the market merge, each station would appear as a subchannel on the other co-owned station in the market.
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Meanwhile, in another market serving parts of Western Illinois, the Peoria/Bloomington DMA, I'm hoping that 2018 brings the return of, or the announcement of, an impending return of a "real network" (i.e., Big Four or CW/My/Ion) to Sinclair-owned WHOI-19.1. They lost the ABC affiliation that they've had since the 1950s to Quincy-owned WEEK (which put it on their 25.2 subchannel but still calls it "HOI News") in fall 2016. They're airing only Comet TV on 19.1 now--and NONE of Sinclair's other netlets (i.e., TBD, Charge!, Stadium, and maybe Newsy later).

I hope Sinclair pulls a coup in 2018 and either moves Fox from their other station in the market, Bloomington-based WYZZ-43.1 (which JSA's with Nexstar-owned WMBD-31.1 CBS), onto WHOI-19.1 (and maybe pulls My off WAOE-59.1 and can combo it onto 19.2).

And have all of the Big Four/PBS Peoria stations on immediate Peoria-area sticks (the WYZZ transmitter is near Congerville, halfway between Peoria and Bloomington, and its signal isn't all that great west of Peoria--while WAOE has a much weaker signal than the other Peoria COL stations and doesn't reach the entire market).

Or if Sinclair wants to keep Comet on autopilot in Peoria on 19.1, they could at least offer the other Sinclair networks onto WHOI's subchannels (e.g., 19.2 TBD, 19.3 Charge!, 19.4 Stadium, 19.5 Newsy later?
 
Tim from Springfield said:
Speaking from about 100 miles east of Quincy, I have always hoped to see that happen--hoping it does this year or in the future.

Plus CW on both .3's of WGEM and KYOU. Maybe change KYOU's call letters to KGEM-TV.

Also, both KHQA and KTVO carry Comet (they're both Sinclair stations) on their .3's. But despite being two small markets, I've always thought it would be great for Sinclair to have started a "My Tri-States" secondary My affiliation (with identical programming) for both KHQA-7.3 and KTVO-3.3, instead of Comet.

PBS access will be a weak link in that market, however. Even though the Iowa part of that market (and immediate areas in Missouri and Illinois) will have Iowa Public Television access, in Quincy PBS is only available via a full-power repeater of a Springfield-based PBS regional network (but the offices are actually in suburban Chatham, IL) which has been struggling financially in recent years: Network Knowledge (WQEC-27.1/2/3 Quincy, also available in a combined Kirksville/Ottumwa/Quincy/Hannibal market on WMEC-22.1/2/3 Macomb, IL--as well as WSEC-14.1/2/3 Jacksonville/Springfield).

Also Quincy has a religious station (Christian Television Network) on WTJR-16.1.
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I can't figure out Missouri's reluctance to expand PBS coverage. Guess that's their problem.

If i'm not mistaken, WTJR has the most potent signal of all the Quincy stations. ...OK, I looked it up. It IS the most potent signal of any of the stations in the Tri-States. Full 1 megawatt ERP at just over 1000 ft HAAT. Doubt they would ever consider channel sharing with any PBS outlet though.

Branding...would ABC be branded as KTVO across the whole Tri-States, CBS - KHQA, etc.? It would almost seem easier to do it that way and standardize syndication contracts.
 
Another thing about PBS in MO that KCPT did add PBS Kids but won't add PBS World or so on PBS Sub Channel because no room.

Also another thing Olathe,KS Goverment Channel won't show up on Google Fiber because wants to concentrate on other things and won't go HD or 4K because don't have the money to do it.
 
joebtsflk1 said:
Back to more mundane TV matters, 2018 might finally be the year that the Ottumwa IA -Kirksville MO and the Quincy IL - Hannibal MO DMAs merge to become Tri-States IA-IL-MO. (I did say it was mundane, didn't I?)

This would be accomplished by Quincy Newspapers acquiring FOX affiliate KYOU-TV 15 Ottumwa, in turn Quincy-owned flagship WGEM-TV 10 would place its NBC programming on a subchannel of KYOU. Sinclair already owns the other stations in each market, KTVO 3 Kirksville and KHQA-TV 7 Hannibal (CBS).

The current big 4 network line-up is: WGEM 10.1 NBC, 10.2 FOX; KHQA 7.1 CBS, 7.2 ABC; KTVO 3.1 ABC, 3.2 CBS; and KYOU 15.1 FOX. The Ottumwa-Kirksville market doesn't have an NBC outlet. After the market merge, each station would appear as a subchannel on the other co-owned station in the market.
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KYOU is adding NBC on 15.2, as was posted on the Iowa TV board:

https://www.radiodiscussions.com/showthread.php?707456-KYOU-Ottumwa-IA-adding-NBC-soon

Maybe they read your post?
 
NBC on KYOU ends any speculation that SagamoreHill's LD outlet KGLU-LD 17 Ottumwa would pick up NBC. And no, I didn't read Friday's announcement about KYOU's deal with NBC.

Another situation having NBC on KYOU would be the considerable overlap of the KYOU signal into the southern half of the Cedar Rapids - Waterloo market. Sinclair's FOX outlet KFXA 28 in Cedar Rapids has the historical overlap from KYOU over the air clear up to Cedar Rapids, although having competing network affiliates in a market today only is an advantage for a very small portion of viewers who are motivated to try and pick up the OTA signals of an out-of market KYOU. Quincy's NBC outlet KWWL in Waterloo now will get the same overlap with NBC programming on KYOU.

A generation ago KYOU was allegedly talked into placing their 1200 ft tower northeast of Ottumwa to provide Fox coverage to as much of the Iowa City and Cedar Rapids area as possible because of the notoriously bad predecessor to KFXA, the straight-from-video-store-to-broadcast KOCR. Now, that heritage is spilling into the 21st century with NBC overlap between KYOU and KWWL.

Will Sinclair and Quincy Newspapers having a common "enemy" in KYOU, minor as it is, foster any cooperation between them in the Tri-States? This is just rank fantasy baseball stuff, but if Quincy did indeed see fit to buying KYOU, it might behoove Sinclair's KTVO into making some tower space available on their Lancaster tower for KYOU. After all, there's still a big RF channel 3 batwing antenna that needs to come down, which would make some room for an extra tenant. With KYOU finally off of a tower that misses half of its own market, because it actually stands in the far south of the Cedar Rapids - Waterloo market, KYOU won't need its channel 30 translator in Kirksville. It could then be sold to become a translator for a PBS station, most logically Sedalia's KMOS-TV.

Do any of these predictions have an ice cubes chance in Hades in melting in some lady's drink? Probably not, but then we've been wondering for most of this decade when KYOU was going to add NBC.
 
This is most likely a longshot, but another "prediction" I'll throw out there:

In yet another effort to blunt declining NFL ratings that linger into the 2018 season, an experimental, limited 5-game "Monday Night Football" package returns to ABC alongside ESPN's MNF. This time rather than MNF on ABC, the package is called "ESPN NFL Special on ABC." It will run only on Week 1 and from Weeks 12-15 (Week 12 is the Monday after Thanksgiving, Nov. 26; Week 16 Monday night is Christmas Eve 2018, then NYE the Monday of Week 17, so no games on those Mondays). ESPN will already have an opening weekend Monday night doubleheader on Week 1, so the ABC game will mean 3 games the opening Monday night. Then Weeks 12-15 is an extra Monday game on ABC featuring teams that still have at least a slim chance at the playoffs by Thanksgiving. The DWTS season will have already ended shortly before Thanksgiving, so no fears of Dancing with the Stars preemptions.
 
I think Fox gets the TV rights to WWE which could see Raw on Fox on Mondays, SmackDown Live on FX Tuesdays and Superstars and Main Event on Fox-owned O& O, CW and / or My Network TV stations on the weekends and bring This week in WWE to FS1 on the weekends. UFC moves to NBC, Pop goes off the air and Impact Wrestling loses their only TV home and closes down afterwards. Cable TV subscribers will keep dropping leading to price cuts for monthly rates and lesser known cable stations being closed down.
 
TVCOOL said:
I think Fox gets the TV rights to WWE which could see Raw on Fox on Mondays, SmackDown Live on FX Tuesdays and Superstars and Main Event on Fox-owned O& O, CW and / or My Network TV stations on the weekends and bring This week in WWE to FS1 on the weekends. UFC moves to NBC, Pop goes off the air and Impact Wrestling loses their only TV home and closes down afterwards. Cable TV subscribers will keep dropping leading to price cuts for monthly rates and lesser known cable stations being closed down.
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Superstars was canceled in late 2016 to make room for WWE's cruiserweights only show 205 Live on WWE Network, plus Fox's plans may be decided on if UFC stays or goes, if UFC stays and renews with Fox, then they won't go after WWE US TV Rights (and possibly buy out the WWE too), but if UFC goes, then chances are, Fox will be getting WWE with the best deal possible out of desperation.
 
Tim from Springfield said:
Meanwhile, in another market serving parts of Western Illinois, the Peoria/Bloomington DMA, I'm hoping that 2018 brings the return of, or the announcement of, an impending return of a "real network" (i.e., Big Four or CW/My/Ion) to Sinclair-owned WHOI-19.1. They lost the ABC affiliation that they've had since the 1950s to Quincy-owned WEEK (which put it on their 25.2 subchannel but still calls it "HOI News") in fall 2016. They're airing only Comet TV on 19.1 now--and NONE of Sinclair's other netlets (i.e., TBD, Charge!, Stadium, and maybe Newsy later).
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they didnt lose anything. It was a trade with Quincy. Quincy lost FOX in South Bend to Sinclair in exchange Sinclair lost ABC to Quincy there
 
ftballfan said:
Also, do KHQA 7.1 and KTVO 3.2 (and KTVO 3.1 and KHQA 7.2) air the same syndicated programming?
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pretty much. The only syndicated show that doesnt cross over is Rachel Ray and that is due to WGEM having the rights in Quincy. Otherwise looking at schedules both markets have same syndicated shows
Live with Kelly & Ryan
Ellen
Phil
Oz
Harry
Steve (Harvey)
 
One Sinclair station still has Bounce TV and another still Movies they will keep them because nobody else in those area want them. A Wipeout Game Show remake wil happen. Mike Holmes will do more shows in Northern states. A station From LA or New York or Mami or Dallas that's like WGN from Chicago or TBS from Atlanta will start with Local News on it/Local Sports Teams to.
 
How about this "To Catch a Predator" will return again this time on ID where Chris Hansen currently has a contract with as of this decade. And this time Ryan Laforge of Canada's Creep Catchers will be the host of that show. The show will be in demand again right after the current wave of harassment scandals came into play.
 
When Chris Hanson first started hosting Crime Watch Daily for a few months they did Hanson VS Predator but they haven't aired those segs in a while thou.
 
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