So the Anaheim Ducks are battling for a division title these last two weeks of the NHL regular season and where do we find their game tonight on the radio? Well KLAC has the Dodgers; KSPN has the Lakers; KFWB has the Clippers; KTLK 1150 has the Kings; and the Ducks' flagship station KLAA AM830, owned by the same guy who owns the Angels, is of course carrying the Angels game. So-o-o-o-o-o we find tonight's Ducks game to be broadcast on that powerhouse of The Inland Empire, KTDD 1350. YIKES!! I guess KABC didn't want to bump the already-delayed broadcast of Mark Levin to carry the game. KRLA 870's night signal would even be better than what's receivable on 1350 AM in Orange County. While there must be a very small audience for pro hockey games on the radio here in SoCal, this is a big league team we're talking about. Can anyone name any other market in which this situation would happen?
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Wow, only in Southern California radio does this happen
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It happens all the time in major markets for pretty much the same reason. You have lots of teams battling for a few stations. It's happened in NYC, when you have all the regular sports stations tied up with their primary teams. This year, the Mets will be on WOR, so that relieves some pressure. It's possible someone pitched KABC and they wanted too much money.
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Calling Robin B - why not let KFI help out here? Maybe CC could cut a deal to move Mark Ramsey and Clark Howard to KLAA.
Calling Robin B - why not let KFI help out here? Maybe CC could cut a deal to move Mark Ramsey and Clark Howard to KLAA.
KTDD is a Fox Sports CC o&o station, part of a cluster in the Inland Empire. But the OP is right, its not really an Orange Ciounty signal.
Now, what superpower station does CC have that covers Orange Counrty. Hmmmm ... I think it has a transmitter right on the border in Buena Park where Earle C Anthony and his engineers placed it. The object was to cover the southland from Santa Barbara to San Diego even in the daytime. It does this quite nicely even 90 years later.
Even though KLAC is the Fox Sports station for Los Angeles, would it be too much to ask KFI to carry the Ducks as a backup to KLAA since KLAC has the Dodgers and KEIB (NOT any longer KTLK - where has the OP been?) the Kings? Back "in the day" KFI had a very vigorous sports schedule, so its not without precedent. With both KTLK and KLAC being CC stations it shouldn't create too many waves.
Now, what superpower station does CC have that covers Orange Counrty. Hmmmm ... I think it has a transmitter right on the border in Buena Park where Earle C Anthony and his engineers placed it. The object was to cover the southland from Santa Barbara to San Diego even in the daytime. It does this quite nicely even 90 years later.
Even though KLAC is the Fox Sports station for Los Angeles, would it be too much to ask KFI to carry the Ducks as a backup to KLAA since KLAC has the Dodgers and KEIB (NOT any longer KTLK - where has the OP been?) the Kings? Back "in the day" KFI had a very vigorous sports schedule, so its not without precedent. With both KTLK and KLAC being CC stations it shouldn't create too many waves.
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Department of false alarms -- below is the "end of season" list of stations carrying the Ducks, per their website:
Day Date Opponent Game Time Station
Friday March 28 Edmonton 6:30pm KFWB 980
Saturday March 29 Vancouver 7:00pm KSPN 710
Monday March 31 Winnipeg 7:00pm KSPN 710
Wednesday April 2 Edmonton 7:00pm KTDD 1350
Friday April 4 Nashville 7:00pm KFWB 980
Sunday April 6 Edmonton 5:00pm AM830
Monday April 7 Vancouver 7:00pm AM830
Wednesday April 9 San Jose 7:30pm KSPN 710
Saturday April 12 Los Angeles 7:30pm KSPN 710
Sunday April 13 Colorado 5:00pm AM830
Note that KTDD was only used once - the OP was exaggerating in one sense. That said, looking at the crazy quilt of LA stations KLAA had to use to accomodate the Angels I still think my original suggestion has merit for the future. Why not let KFI be an alternate to KLAA - possibly KFI's sister station KLAC could use an available backup in return.
Day Date Opponent Game Time Station
Friday March 28 Edmonton 6:30pm KFWB 980
Saturday March 29 Vancouver 7:00pm KSPN 710
Monday March 31 Winnipeg 7:00pm KSPN 710
Wednesday April 2 Edmonton 7:00pm KTDD 1350
Friday April 4 Nashville 7:00pm KFWB 980
Sunday April 6 Edmonton 5:00pm AM830
Monday April 7 Vancouver 7:00pm AM830
Wednesday April 9 San Jose 7:30pm KSPN 710
Saturday April 12 Los Angeles 7:30pm KSPN 710
Sunday April 13 Colorado 5:00pm AM830
Note that KTDD was only used once - the OP was exaggerating in one sense. That said, looking at the crazy quilt of LA stations KLAA had to use to accomodate the Angels I still think my original suggestion has merit for the future. Why not let KFI be an alternate to KLAA - possibly KFI's sister station KLAC could use an available backup in return.
???? - why the swipe at the former Warner Brothers (later Crowell-Collier and ultimately Westinghouse before they bougt CBS and changed their name, station?
I remember Mark Scott broadcsting the Hollowood Stars games from Gimore Field before Television City was built, also restaurantuer Larry Finley doing his program from his eatery before "Color Radio" or "Give us 24 minutes we'll give you the world" ever hit the airwaves.
KFWB has had a long and illustrious history that should be remembered, not denigrated, simply because Viacom/Infinity apparently has no real idea what to do with it in the 21st century.
Maybe they should sell it to CC, who can then bring back Dave Ramsey, move Clark Howard over from KEIB and sandwich Bob McCormick in between. CC's KEIB is already carrying the Money Matters program (apparently from CC owned KFBK in Sacramento?) and the Motley Fool on weekends, plus Rick Edleman on KFI so why not them too? Perhaps Doug Andrews might move over from KABC.
Fred Sands, Buzz Schwartz, Ed Hart, Dick Sinclair and all the other LA on-air financial host of the past would be happy to see a missing niche in AM talk filled. I doubt if the audience would exceed that of the former KGIL (now KZMT) but there does need to be a role for this LA radio icon.
I remember Mark Scott broadcsting the Hollowood Stars games from Gimore Field before Television City was built, also restaurantuer Larry Finley doing his program from his eatery before "Color Radio" or "Give us 24 minutes we'll give you the world" ever hit the airwaves.
KFWB has had a long and illustrious history that should be remembered, not denigrated, simply because Viacom/Infinity apparently has no real idea what to do with it in the 21st century.
Maybe they should sell it to CC, who can then bring back Dave Ramsey, move Clark Howard over from KEIB and sandwich Bob McCormick in between. CC's KEIB is already carrying the Money Matters program (apparently from CC owned KFBK in Sacramento?) and the Motley Fool on weekends, plus Rick Edleman on KFI so why not them too? Perhaps Doug Andrews might move over from KABC.
Fred Sands, Buzz Schwartz, Ed Hart, Dick Sinclair and all the other LA on-air financial host of the past would be happy to see a missing niche in AM talk filled. I doubt if the audience would exceed that of the former KGIL (now KZMT) but there does need to be a role for this LA radio icon.
Not really a swipe...just that it's sort of off the front page. Maybe the Ducks should buy it! All hockey all the time. In LA! Get Gretzky to do a show. Good luck.
The problem here starts with KFWB being over the ownership cap for CBS since they bought an additional TV station, so it's being run in a trust pending a sale. CC can't have any more stations unless they sell one of the existing ones they have.
And the KFWB signal is no longer capable of covering the market at a level that overcomes the growing man made noise level. For the last 30 years, this station has had significant coverage vs. noise problems in the LA metro, making it a non-viable facility.
The problem here, if there is one, is that the listenership for hockey on the radio probably numbers in the dozens. As pathetic as KABC's numbers are, the idea that they would throw them away to air a mid season Ducks game is preposterous. The idea that KFI should serve as some sort of sports backup -for the Ducks no less - is one of the most ridiculous ideas I have ever read on this board (and that is saying something)! KFI's worst rated hour would still draw way more listeners than live Duck broadcasts. Believe me, Robin has more important things to concern herself with.
BTW, There is no hate going on here, I am one of the dozens. I love hockey and I think Nick Nickson is a tremendous talent who does a great job on LA King radio broadcasts and I tune in every now and then just to hear him do his thing.
BTW, There is no hate going on here, I am one of the dozens. I love hockey and I think Nick Nickson is a tremendous talent who does a great job on LA King radio broadcasts and I tune in every now and then just to hear him do his thing.
I remember when we ran Ducks on KWIZ AM in Santa Ana in Spanish. The team thought hockey was like indoor soccer, and tried to interest Hispanics in the sport.
When it snows in Tegucigalpa or Mazatlán, they'll start playing hockey there.
We tried writing promos that said it was "futból" with a weapon!
Just like they try to promote it like NASCAR in the south.
OK OK So I had a brain fart, yes I know it's KEIB not KTLK. I was looking at the OC Register's sports broadcast listing on Page 2 of the Sports section that day and saw them list KEIB as "KTLK". Just slipped my mind is all. So my bad and the Register's bad. Funny you critique me on that but in your last sentence you ALSO mentioned 'KTLK' not KEIB. The other part of your post does deserve comment (as others have commented) with the ridiculous suggestion that KFI be a 'backup' for sports broadcasts.
On a side note, it probably was the only night ever that the Lakers, Clippers, Kings, Ducks, Dodgers, and Angels were all playing at the same time.
Exaggerating??? HUH? I was just stating the fact of the night/broadcasts. Again I say it should never happen in a major league market.
Well there's always FM I guess ... Maybe that waste of a marginal signal at 92.7 FM could have accommodated the 36 or so fans heh heh for that one night. The situation probably will never happen again. BTW it wasn't a "mid-season" game unless you consider "mid" to be Game#76 of a full 82 game season.
Hahaha where have YOU been, Art? Yes, Buzz Schwartz would be happy all right just to be alive --- which he's not!
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=105862261
Oh I knew that Buzz is no longer with us - Ed Hart either (died in 1993 - I just had the pleasure of meeting him in the fifties when he was at KFI). And yes, I liike you, am still thinking of 1150 as KTLK on occasion. I am surprised that my concurring with "unregistered" as to what KFI might do for the Ducks was seen as being so far out in orbit. I guess I'm just as eccentric as founder ECA was when he'd call up the engineer on duty and insist that his own "Blue Coral" be played - he cared nada about the ratings because in his view it was his station. One person once told me that his sales people were prohibited from using a ratings book - don't know if that was true. Every control booth in the old Vermont Avenue studios had a copy of Blue Coral on hand because engineers never knew when ECA (then residing in Palm Springs) might call.
But that was indeed another era ...
But that was indeed another era ...
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The sport of hockey especially in sunny SoCal is a very niche sport. Always has been. While the sport does have it's share of superfans that yell more loudly to make up for the fact it's a sport largely ignored by the local media (the LA Times got rid of their hockey beat writeups years ago right around the time the Kings were making their Stanley Cup run and rely solely upon the AP wire for game reviews) it is glaringly apparent that a pathetic Lakers team that's currently playing for the NBA Draft Lottery would get more earholes than 2 local hockey clubs both set up for a playoff run this season.
I don't share the same love of LAKERSLAKERSLAKERSDODGERSDODGERSDODGERS that the sports radio markets force feed us on a daily basis but I understand it. It's where the money and the listeners are.
I don't share the same love of LAKERSLAKERSLAKERSDODGERSDODGERSDODGERS that the sports radio markets force feed us on a daily basis but I understand it. It's where the money and the listeners are.
I'm not a hockey fan but hear what your saying. Howeve, the Kings have been hear for a half century and the Ducks for nesrly two decades. Granted that there are more popular sports than ice hockey but we do have a lot of transplanted Easterners and Canadians. The point of the OP was that when locked into a championship drive their games should be accessible
I know the NY Islanders ended up on a college station, LOL. Hofstra University's WRHU-FM was their flagship.
From Hofstra's website:
"WRHU FM Radio Hofstra University - The ONLY student operated radio station in the world serving as the broadcast home for a major league sports franchise"
Now THAT is embarrassing. Still, we're talking about the Islanders, so I guess you reap what your record sows.
The Ducks OTOH are a legit contender for a Stanley Cup, but thanks to it being beautiful sunny SoCal, most don't care about an icky ice sport.
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