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It's 2015! Time to get rid of the '70s.

vchimpanzee said:
I find that hard to believe. Other than The Cars, I don't see where the 80s began before, say, "My Sharona".
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Blondie's early hits had an '80s sound as well. But those and "My Sharona," along with the Cars, are the only '70s tunes I can think of that would work on an '80s channel.
 
The pre-72 issue is a pre-quisite for shoving more Bieber down our throats.
 
Having lived through the desert that was much of post '74 music, there were little glimmers of hope that would presage the 80's. Talking Heads "Take Me To The River", The Police "Roxanne" & "Message in a Bottle", The Cars ''Let's Go'' & ''My Best Friend's Girl'' are a few examples. I think there could be ten songs or so from the 70's that could work in an eighties format, but most would be new wave and would be '78 or'79.
 
Unregistered said:
A closer look at the case shows how it is less about justice for aging singers, and instead a way for the music industry to get new money for old rope.
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Still doesn't really explain if any hosting companies are actually paying for pre-1972 music. But it sounds like the answer is no, since it wasn't required by the 1997 DMCA.

Music Lover said:
Here's what they mention about song royalties: http://www.kliteonline.com/songroyalties.html
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It's just a pitch for donations. No indication if they're paying for pre-1972 or not.
 
vchimpanzee said:
I find that hard to believe. Other than The Cars, I don't see where the 80s began before, say, "My Sharona".
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"Love Is The Drug" / Roxy Music
"Young Americans" / David Bowie
"Roxanne" / Police
"Video Killed The Radio Star" / Buggles
"Pop Musik" / M
"Cruel To Be Kind" / Nick Lowe
"Heart Of Glass" / Blondie
"Life During Wartime (This Ain't No Disco)" / Talking Heads

All pre-1980 songs, all perceived by listeners as being from the '80s.
 
Where is it written that eras in popular music automatically begin and end at the stroke of midnight at the changeover of a decade? Assuming you count 1, 2, 3 ... 9, 10, then the 70's began on January 1, 1971, and ended on December 31, 1980. Then there are those who count 0, 1, 2, 3 ... 8, 9. For them, the 70's began on January 1, 1970 and ended on December 31, 1979. In either case, does anyone who was actually alive at the time remember spending New Year's Day throwing out their entire music collection of 70's music and buying a whole new collection of 80's music the next day? Did every radio station with a current music format stop playing their entire playlist on New Year's Day of the start of the new decade?
 
Avid Listener said:
Where is it written that eras in popular music automatically begin and end at the stroke of midnight at the changeover of a decade? Assuming you count 1, 2, 3 ... 9, 10, then the 70's began on January 1, 1971, and ended on December 31, 1980. Then there are those who count 0, 1, 2, 3 ... 8, 9. For them, the 70's began on January 1, 1970 and ended on December 31, 1979. In either case, does anyone who was actually alive at the time remember spending New Year's Day throwing out their entire music collection of 70's music and buying a whole new collection of 80's music the next day? Did every radio station with a current music format stop playing their entire playlist on New Year's Day of the start of the new decade?
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That's what's so infuriating to me about Sirius XM's approach on '70s on 7 and '80s on 8. I'd rather hear one channel playing 1,600 songs representing both decades than two channels each playing 800 from one. Even better would be the ultimate classic hits station: British invasion through the advent of grunge and rap, 2,400 songs in all. And yes, I realize that there are plenty of "bad songs" in those satellite radio playlists, but the original concept of the decades channels went deeper than just familiar FM oldies without the commercials.
 
I emailed this station about the pre-72 issue: http://softneasy.com/

Here's the response: We've been nailed for EVERY song ever recorded! So the pre-1972 thing is a non-issue for us. I think the issue is with traditional terrestrial broadcast radio stations.
 
Music Lover said:
Here's the response: We've been nailed for EVERY song ever recorded! So the pre-1972 thing is a non-issue for us. I think the issue is with traditional terrestrial broadcast radio stations.
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It doesn't apply to "traditional terrestrial radio" at all. I think that's the one sure thing here.
 
CTListener said:
I'd rather hear one channel playing 1,600 songs representing both decades than two channels each playing 800 from one. ]
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But what they give you is the option to change from one to the other and make your own experience. That's what I do. The minute a dud pops up on one channel, I simply push the button.
 
Music Lover said:
I emailed this station about the pre-72 issue: http://softneasy.com/

Here's the response: We've been nailed for EVERY song ever recorded! So the pre-1972 thing is a non-issue for us. I think the issue is with traditional terrestrial broadcast radio stations.
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As BigA said, this does not apply at all to "traditional terrestrial radio" since the digital rights issue does not apply at all to traditional over the air radio. OTA radio pays the authors and composers, but not artists and record labels.

The pre-1972 issue very much applies to all streamers. If your friend thinks otherwise, he needs to get a better lawyer or he is going to have serious liability issues.
 
TheBigA said:
It doesn't apply to "traditional terrestrial radio" at all. I think that's the one sure thing here.
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Many news reports I've heard about it said it could have even broader implications and potential impact than whether digital streaming services have to pay for pre-1972 recordings. It could impact many other businesses at which sound recordings are publicly performed, including not only terrestrial radio, broadcast TV and cable, but also any other physical place such as every bar restaurant and nightclub in the United States as well as any other physical venue that plays music publicly (amusement parks, bowling alleys and stadiums for instance).

The Turtles have opened up a can of worms that's going to get even more wildly complicated.
 
Music Lover said:
Now I'm going to email all of these and find out what their responses are:

http://www.kliteonline.com/
http://www.softrockradio.net/softrockradiolove.html
http://lite99online.com/
www.louisianalite.com
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K Lite response: Good question. I don't believe that it will affect my stations. I pay a company a monthly fee that handles all royalties for ASCAP, BMI and SESAC. The price goes up and down every month depending on how many people are listening and for how long. They keep a good track on that issue, so my stations should be legal.
 
Getting rid of the golden oldies is a pre-requisite for selling Justin Bieber. Blech.
 
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