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Big Boy Leaves Power 106, Jumps Ship to iHeart's Return of 92.3 The Beat

TheBigA said:
And I also responded to your post. Radio is local. It's hard to generalize. Some stations vary their music differently.
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When one responds to an off topic post, one perpetuates its off topic nature...

Back on topic now....Radio is not as local as it used to be. That's the problem. For example, I am surprised that iHeart Media would take 92.3 to mainstream Urban in a market with a declining African American share of radio listeners. Perhaps they are doing so now just to attract listener awareness but at some point, will a true Urban approach discourage Hispanic listerners?
 
AM FM listener said:
The magic of radio has always been the "wow" factor. A good song you've never heard before (with current-based formats), an old favorite song you've not heard in a long time (oldies-based formats), or a personality that made you laugh out loud. One cannot get that with a personal song collection, regardless of technological format. I think that is what old time radio fans miss the most today.
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Exactly.

Hearing music on the air is vastly different than hearing it thru an internet stream or your MP3.....or that old 45. I can play some old countdown in my home every year which is great, but hearing it LIVE and different each year on the radio, is priceless.

Growing up with radio, is like growing up with Loony Toons. The Toons are still on Boomerang in 2015. Older radio is not.
 
AM FM listener said:
Back on topic now....Radio is not as local as it used to be.
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Sure it is. Probably more so. Especially in LA. All of the music stations have live and local airstaffs, with playlists that reflect the tastes of local people. Clearly there was a format hole with mainstream urban that leaves out the rap and rhythmic stuff, appealing to a broader audience. That's what they're doing.
 
TheBigA said:
Sure it is. Probably more so. Especially in LA. All of the music stations have live and local airstaffs, with playlists that reflect the tastes of local people. Clearly there was a format hole with mainstream urban that leaves out the rap and rhythmic stuff, appealing to a broader audience. That's what they're doing.
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Perhaps live and local is what KHHT will eventually do...starting when Big Boy gets there. There is a guy that will make some folks laugh out loud. But, for now, they are just playing 10,000 songs in a row based on a national list of most popular songs on Urban radio. Time will tell...
 
AM FM listener said:
When one responds to an off topic post, one perpetuates its off topic nature...
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Which is why I flagged Channel Flipper as trolling. Despite his attempt to put a spin on his behavior that makes David, Big A, myself and others as the bad guy, the definition of trolling is posting in an attempt to take a thread off-topic. The whole business about what we pros "will tell you" was not so much "answering the question" as trying to engage us in another pointless argument about music fans' opinions vs. the way the industry works.

Despite the personal attacks on my knowledge and the way my civility begins to deteriorate when such trolling occurs, I'm never going to be ashamed of myself for the content and tone of my posts, Flipper, so you may was well give up trying to make me.
 
K.M. Richards said:
the definition of trolling is posting in an attempt to take a thread off-topic. The whole business about what we pros "will tell you" was not so much "answering the question" as trying to engage us in another pointless argument about music fans' opinions vs. the way the industry works.
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KM,

This was the post that initiated a side-topic about music fans opinions and the way the industry works:

Bran1993 said:
I'm 21 years old and I can't stand some of today's whack ass hip hop. Hell I barely listen to the radio anymore. I rather hook up my iPod Touch and play my own music then listen to the ever repetitive radio.
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So when someone again mentions or complains about repetitive radio, as I have in the past and other music fans mention as well, something is bound to sprout up again, no matter what topic anyone is on.

In this case, Bran1993 mentioned the issue of repetitive radio, so Channel Flipper responded. Why not, he's entitled to post here as is anyone else. I seriously do not believe he was trolling, at all.

On the other hand, I do not expect this thread to mushroom into a 75 page debate, like the older KRTH threads. And it shouldn't.

I also wouldn't call the other topics pointless, since new posters on this board are discovering these topics for the first time and yes, some of them are music fans also and most likely will have a say down the road.

Flipper has nearly 2000 posts. I think he would know the difference between posting and "trolling" by now.
 
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i Agree real 92.3 is fully Urban Contemporary

AM FM listener said:
Yup. Urban is not Rhythmic. Real is urban, Power is rhythmic. I just looked on Mediabase and compared each station's playlist. Of their top 20 songs, only 10 are on both playlists.
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yes i agree with you Real 92.3 is fully 100% Urban Contemporary with Unity and No Color Lines ! they have finally return as real instead of the Beat ...
 
LARadioRewind said:
Does anyone know how many songs are being played on Real 92.3 and not on Power 106...and vice-versa? If I remember correctly, when Power 106 debuted in 1986, all but seven of their top-30 songs were also being played on KIIS. Playlist-wise, KIIS and KPWR gradually became more distinct from each other. How different is the KHHT playlist from that of KPWR now? (And will KHHT get new call letters?)
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Mediabase.com rolling 2-day songs-played list for KHHT-FM-92.3 (Real 92.3): http://mediabase.com/whatsong/whatsong.asp?var_s=075072072084045070077

Mediabase.com rolling 2-day songs-played list for KPWR-FM-105.9 (Power 106): http://mediabase.com/whatsong/whatsong.asp?var_s=075080087082045070077

Note: at the time of this posting (Monday evening 2/9/2015), the "Yesterday" selection feature at the top of the playlist pages were showing no results for Sunday 2/8/2015 while there was ability to look at "Today" Monday 2/9/2015.
Hopefully this glitch will be fixed by Tuesday 2/10/2015.
 
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pjc1961 said:


Mediabase.com rolling 2-day songs-played list for KHHT-FM-92.3 (Real 92.3): http://mediabase.com/whatsong/whatsong.asp?var_s=075072072084045070077

Mediabase.com rolling 2-day songs-played list for KPWR-FM-105.9 (Power 106): http://mediabase.com/whatsong/whatsong.asp?var_s=075080087082045070077

Note: at the time of this posting (Monday evening 2/9/2015), the "Yesterday" selection feature at the top of the playlist pages were showing no results for Sunday 2/8/2015 while there was ability to look at "Today" Monday 2/9/2015.
Hopefully this glitch will be fixed by Tuesday 2/10/2015.
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The Real 92.3 isn't dancey like Power 106.

KHHT isn't playing Mark Ronson "Uptown Funk", no Mr. Probz "Waves" Disclosure "Latch" is the only dancey track that you'll hear on 92.3. While on Power 106 you'll hear Mark Ronson "Uptown Funk", Mr. Probz "Waves" and Disclosure "Latch" at any given moment. I hear "Uptown Funk" on KJLH regularly but that's an Urban AC. The Real 92.3 is trying to let their listeners know that their a true urban by playing hip hop and R&B 24/7. Maybe when they do get some live DJs they'll start playing those songs.
 
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If you're expecting KHHT to be danceable don't count on that anytime soon. As for air staffers, Mr. Wynter might want to look at what happened after Radio One destroyed the "Beat" by not making that same mistake, plus KPWR's musical presentation, multi-cultural talent, and listener base has worked in their favor, so Real 92.3 need to attract that same formula in order to be successful.
 
Dj Woody said:
There's also an online petition on Change.org asking to bring back Hot 92.3. Almost 5,000 people already signed it.
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That would be a 5,000 out of the average cume of KHHT which is between 1,700,000 and 2,000,000.

Those petitions often prove the opposite of their intent... that nobody was passionate about the previous format.
 
only1moore said:
If you're expecting KHHT to be danceable don't count on that anytime soon. As for air staffers, Mr. Wynter might want to look at what happened after Radio One destroyed the "Beat" by not making that same mistake, plus KPWR's musical presentation, multi-cultural talent, and listener base has worked in their favor, so Real 92.3 need to attract that same formula in order to be successful.
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I'm not expecting them to venture into a Rhythmic leaning direction. I predict that they'll have a multi-cultural air talent and musical presentation with their urban format. Now do you expect Power 106 to drop their dancey tracks like they did in 1997 when 92.3 The Beat was kicking butt in the ratings. Just curious.
 
Bran1993 said:
I'm not expecting them to venture into a Rhythmic leaning direction. I predict that they'll have a multi-cultural air talent and musical presentation with their urban format. Now do you expect Power 106 to drop their dancey tracks like they did in 1997 when 92.3 The Beat was kicking butt in the ratings. Just curious.
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On average, Power was tied with The Beat for the 4 books of 1997, being either #3 or #4. #1 and #2 were KLVE and KSCA. By 1998, Power was dominant over The Beat.
 
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On average, Power was tied with The Beat for the 4 books of 1997, being either #3 or #4. #1 and #2 were KLVE and KSCA. By 1998, Power was dominant over The Beat.
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David, I always read the R&R magazines that's on your website americanradiohistory.com. From my analysis in the KKBT played more R&B in the mid 90's than Power did. While Power was slowly going towards an urban leaning direction by adding more rap. Before Clear Channel took over in 1999, 92.3 The Beat played artists like Luther Vandross (Endless Love, Going In Circles and Nights In Harlem), Anita Baker (Body & Soul and I Apologize), Whitney Houston (Exhale, When You Believe), Stevie Wonder (For Your Love) and other artists that KJLH played but I can't see 92.3 playing those types of artists in this day and age. As the 90's progressed KKBT went into a more hip hop direction, Power dropped the dance tracks and KJLH morphed into a more Urban AC. I've done my homework mind you.
 
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Bran1993 said:
David, I always read the R&R magazines that's on your website americanradiohistory.com. From my analysis in the KKBT played more R&B in the mid 90's than Power did. While Power was slowly going towards an urban leaning direction by adding more rap. Before Clear Channel took over in 1999, 92.3 The Beat played artists like Luther Vandross (Endless Love, Going In Circles and Nights In Harlem), Anita Baker (Body & Soul and I Apologize), Whitney Houston (Exhale, When You Believe), Stevie Wonder (For Your Love) and other artists that KJLH played but I can't see 92.3 playing those types of artists in this day and age. As the 90's progressed KKBT went into a more hip hop direction, Power dropped the dance tracks and KJLH morphed into a more Urban AC. I've done my homework mind you.
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If you want to track the playlists against the ratings, check http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Duncan-American-Radio-Issue-Guide.htm Nearly every book from 1976 on is detailed there.
 
Emmis Communications is seeking a temporary restraining order to prevent Big Boy from going to another station. The request will be considered at a Los Angeles Superior Court hearing on March 3. In other words, Big Boy, don't count on that $3.5 million just yet!
 
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