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Vanessa Ruiz - Channel 12

I watched 12 last night. I think they tried a bit too hard to "introduce" her to the team. I guess I wonder why they chose Vanessa rather than Tram or Fay.
 
Last time I checked, we were still " THE UNITED STATES."
Perhaps she should consider a job in Mexico, If their willing
to hire her..........
 
You gotta be kidding me, Prescott Joe. Now you want Spanish words not to be pronounced correctly? You're so silly.

I have an idea...why don't you worry about your own lack of English grammar skills? After all, this is still "THE UNITED STATES," and here we use proper English grammar, "if they're," instead of moronic English grammar, like "If their."
 
Closed circuit for KPNX Mesa...better give Charlie new copy for the news open:

"From 12 News, your 'we don't say Geela Bend' station, it's Jive At Five with Mark Curtis, Leeenda Alvarrrez Jr., Caribe Devine with weather, and Bruce Cooper on sports..."
 
oldiesfan6479 said:
Closed circuit for KPNX Mesa...better give Charlie new copy for the news open:

"From 12 News, your 'we don't say Geela Bend' station, it's Jive At Five with Mark Curtis, Leeenda Alvarrrez Jr., Caribe Devine with weather, and Bruce Cooper on sports..."
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NOT funny
 
Anything is better than hearing Mark Curtis pronounce AIR-i-zona as ARR-i-zona.
 
Bastardizing the English Language

KP said:
You gotta be kidding me, Prescott Joe. Now you want Spanish words not to be pronounced correctly? You're so silly.

I have an idea...why don't you worry about your own lack of English grammar skills? After all, this is still "THE UNITED STATES," and here we use proper English grammar, "if they're," instead of moronic English grammar, like "If their."
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REALLY???? All the Europeans and others that settled in the U.S. should have demanded that we
honor their pronunciations as well. Simply stated: Many here are tired of the bastardization of The
English Language. Like I said, we are NOT IN MEXICO or Central America! As for my grammar, I'd agree
that my computer skills are lacking......but my knowledge of English and a few other languages are first
rate.........
 
Prescott Joe said:
REALLY???? All the Europeans and others that settled in the U.S. should have demanded that we
honor their pronunciations as well. Simply stated: Many here are tired of the bastardization of The
English Language. Like I said, we are NOT IN MEXICO or Central America! As for my grammar, I'd agree
that my computer skills are lacking......but my knowledge of English and a few other languages are first
rate.........
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Isn't it more like the bastardization of Spanish words by English speakers? She isn't mispronouncing English words, she's correctly pronouncing Spanish words that were borrowed by English speakers.
 
But we are not in Mexico!!!!!!!!!

Azlen said:
Isn't it more like the bastardization of Spanish words by English speakers? She isn't mispronouncing English words, she's correctly pronouncing Spanish words that were borrowed by English speakers.
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Perhaps an example might be helpful......
Ricotta in English= Re cot a
Ricotta in Italian= Roll the R, Re coat ta
We are not in Italy, therefore, to expect someone to pronounce it the correct
Italian way is, silly............. And in my years of buying Ricotta Cheese, I
have NEVER heard anyone pronounce it the Italian way, except for Italians,
chefs and Italian Americans........
 
Just so I can try to get inside your discombobulated rationale...it's OK for an Italian-American, or a chef of unknown racial heritage, to pronounce an Italian word like "ricotta" with an accent, but it's not OK for a Mexican-American to pronounce a Spanish word with an accent?

And a News anchor correctly pronouncing Spanish words is un-American, but your poor grammar skills are somehow not bastardizing your precious language?

Oh, Hypocrisy, thy name is Prescott Joe.
 
formeraa said:
NOT funny
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So you are not familiar with the history on local news on 12 back in the day, and the particular Hispanic anchor who also tended to "over-pronounce" her name?

Or is it the Gila Bend reference that displeases you? Or maybe "Jive At Five"?

How do you want Vanessa to pronounce say, German or French names? Helmut Kohl. Francoise Mitterand. (I realize those two examples are of former leaders, but, well...pick your foreign language!)
 
oldiesfan6479 said:
So you are not familiar with the history on local news on 12 back in the day, and the particular Hispanic anchor who also tended to "over-pronounce" her name?

Or is it the Gila Bend reference that displeases you? Or maybe "Jive At Five"?

How do you want Vanessa to pronounce say, German or French names? Helmut Kohl. Francoise Mitterand. (I realize those two examples are of former leaders, but, well...pick your foreign language!)
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Actually, the former French leader's first name is Francois (the "e" makes it a female name).

Yes, I am familiar with Linda Alvarez. I saw her in action when I spent the summer here at ASU in the early 80's. She pronounced her name correctly. I don't understand why that would be the least bit funny.

I've never heard Gila Bend pronounced the way you wrote it. And "Jive At Five" is also not particularly funny (unless perhaps we were still in 1975 or watching a rerun of a Norman Lear sitcom).
 
That is not what I said.........

KP said:
Just so I can try to get inside your discombobulated rationale...it's OK for an Italian-American, or a chef of unknown racial heritage, to pronounce an Italian word like "ricotta" with an accent, but it's not OK for a Mexican-American to pronounce a Spanish word with an accent?

And a News anchor correctly pronouncing Spanish words is un-American, but your poor grammar skills are somehow not bastardizing your precious language?

Oh, Hypocrisy, thy name is Prescott Joe.
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You mention the word, "ACCENT," nowhere in my entry did I use that word... You did!
If we were in Italy, I would expect, (rolled r)
re coat ta but we are not in Italy so I expect to hear re cot a. When I listen to media, I expect to hear pronunciations the American/English way..........nothing more and nothing less... If I were watching Univision or similar that would be different.
KP----You do not start a sentence with the word And, put a coma before but or capitalize a word like news, except in certain circumstances.....
 
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I totally respect Vanessa's point of view when it comes to pronunciations and dialects. Having said that, I feel that if she is willing to stand behind her words, she should be pronouncing each and every word in its native pronunciation or dialect whether it be German, French, English, Cajun, Spanish, etc. I'm not sure that would happen that way. In any case, I am waiting to see how she pronounces Guadalupe.
 
Prescott Joe said:
KP, you are a man who could have been great except you are not very good!
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I'm glad I'm not a great man. This is because I'm a woman.
It doesn't surprise me that someone with your antiquated views automatically assumes you were talking to a man.
 
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