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I am just curious about....

Mrtejano

Mrtejano

I am just curious to find out a couple of things. First is there a possibility that we can get a 87.7 FM by "mistake " here in Houston? I mean Beaumont isn't the only city that has an 87.7, son does San Antonio.



Also I have heard that a station that is below 92.1 FM cannot be a commercial station it has to be a non-commercial . 94.1 La Nueva is obviously 92.1 FM has a translator but it also transmit on 91.1 FM . During the Astros game they play a lot of commercials budlight and other companies. How does that work do they switch frequencies when they are transmitting Astros game and do not simulcast on 91.1 FM?
 
How did 87-7 get an indefinite STA to operate analog? I thought that hadn't happened before. I guess the FCC went soft on them and made an exception.
 
None of my digitally tuned radios tune 87.7. And I have checked a bunch, including all vehicles I have access to. I suspect there are very few FM radios with digital tuning that can get the frequency. An 87.7 will have very small audience if most radios can't get it.
 
Toyota, Lexus, and GM all tune to 87.7 FM. Heck my 82 Digital Delco even tunes 87.7. Most aftermarket decks tune to 87.5 as well, if not lower when international mode is switched on.
 
LibertyNT said:
Toyota, Lexus, and GM all tune to 87.7 FM. Heck my 82 Digital Delco even tunes 87.7. Most aftermarket decks tune to 87.5 as well, if not lower when international mode is switched on.
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Not my Toyota nor my wife's GM. 87.9 is the bottom. Aftermarket - not Pioneer.
 
JoeFM said:
The Beaumont channel 6 is a translator, so they could put in an application to hop it to Houston tomorrow -- if that's what they wanted to do.
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The Beaumont station in question is not a translator, it is an LPTV operation where the audio portion of the TV signal is being used to "imitate" an FM.

The Channel 6 operation is not "translating" any source station anyway. It is originating its own programming.

FM translator "hopping" over large distances is limited to translators bought by AM stations as part of the AM revitalization program at the FCC. They can hop, in a single jump, several hundred miles, to the location of an AM station. And the AM can not be disassociated with the operation for a number of years.
 
Mrtejano said:
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Also I have heard that a station that is below 92.1 FM cannot be a commercial station it has to be a non-commercial . 94.1 La Nueva is obviously 92.1 FM has a translator but it also transmit on 91.1 FM . During the Astros game they play a lot of commercials budlight and other companies. How does that work do they switch frequencies when they are transmitting Astros game and do not simulcast on 91.1 FM?
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87.7 is not an FM frequency. It is, approximately, the aural carrier frequency of a Channel 6 analog TV station.

The station in question operates under FCC TV rules, not radio regulations.
 
JoeFM said:
The Beaumont channel 6 is a translator, so they could put in an application to hop it to Houston tomorrow -- if that's what they wanted to do.
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Not, it isn't. It is an LPTV station. It is translating nothing, but rather originating programming.

JoeFM said:
The frequencies reserved for channel 6 (82.1 to 87.9) are not reserved for noncommercial/educational use.
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Wrong again, Grasshopper. Channel 200 (87.9 MHz) is indeed reserved for non-commercial educational use.
 
Surprises me how many people on this board have no idea how a radio station operates or have ever even been employeed by a radio or tv station. This forum use to be full of people that were actually in the business. Now all we have is joe making everything about him and his sob story and juan asking questions that anyone with basic understanding of radio would know. Why request a license ? You dont even know what a translator is. sorry to those that actually work in radio. Davideduardo thanks for still sticking around.
 
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latinoradio said:
his forum use to be full of people that were actually in the business. Now all we have is joe making everything about him and his sob story and juan asking questions that anyone with basic understanding of radio would know. Davideduardo thanks for still sticking around.
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This gets frustrating, but ever since my high school participation in the debate club I have liked a good argument, even when at times the game is less a debate and more like rope-a-dope.

I tried to post yesterday to one of Joe's most ignorant posts where he said,

But, honestly, how much radio listening occurs indoors? Used to be a lot, but times have changed. Just my personal observations: 1) Very few kids under 18 even listen to the radio; they have their phones and tablets and whatnot; 2) Listening to music in the workplace, if allowed at all, is musical content the company or boss has selected -- usually something from XM or on the net without commercials. If the workplace does have an actual radio playing, almost always its on Sunny 99 or something equally bland that's unlikely to offend anyone. (3) When folks get home from work, they don't turn on the radio. They turn on their computers to check email and their TVs to get the news before watching mindless garbage all evening. (4) As far as I can tell, the great majority of radio listening is done in cars -- and even that is dwindling as folks find streams to listen to.

In fact, about two-thirds of radio listening today is indoors. Millennials listen, on average, to radio 11 hours a week. Teens are not a target for radio, just like persons over 55. Most workplace listening is not in white collar offices. Radio listening at night is indeed lower than daytime, but it has been that way since the 1950's. Not everyone works 9 to 5.

And that is just an overview of how many times Joe is wrong in just one post.

Much of the support data is available free online in the "How America Listens" report also found at http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Arbitron-Radio-Today/HowAmericaListens-2016.pdf )

I tried to correct all this false information from Joe yesterday, but by his own actions he had gotten the thread closed by making everything about him.

So if Joe can't even look up easy to find data on radio usage, how can we expect him to know the difference between an LPTV and a translator or the extent of the non-commercial FM band (and that TV and FM don't share frequencies)?
 
Correcto David Eduarado I agree with you, mate!
I have read the material AND as a Participant Observer
(in Sociology) I must say "bravo!"
 
latinoradio said:
Surprises me how many people on this board have no idea how a radio station operates or have ever even been employeed by a radio or tv station. This forum use to be full of people that were actually in the business. Now all we have is joe making everything about him and his sob story and juan asking questions that anyone with basic understanding of radio would know. Why request a license ? You dont even know what a translator is. sorry to those that actually work in radio. Davideduardo thanks for still sticking around.
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Hmmmmm my name is Juan
 
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