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Is it time for the NFL's television rules to be overhauled?
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NBC game should start at 6pm with Football America on 5pm NBCSN. CBS Games start 11am so if doubleheader the second game end before 6pm if doesn't gets shifted to CBSSN or TBS or Turner or Trutv. Another problem some Preseason Announcers work for CBS and Fox so wouldn't work in Regular Season only if like CBS have Trent Green do all Chiefs Regular season Games on KSMOTV with Carter Blackburn.
That would be 8 am on the west coast, never going to happen. Plus the networks want pregame money.
Uh, what?
When the network only has the singleheader (in this case it was FOX) the rule is they must pull out of the game at 3:25 CDT or when the drive that is in progress at that time is done (score, turnover, punt, etc)
If you had the game from the getgo then you get it to conclusion. If its bonus coverage then you dont get it.
(as example, last weeks Vikes/jets game ran until 3:32 CDT on FOX singleheader...we got the game until its end in Minnesota...and anyone who got the game from the getgo)
The NFL doesnt delay games for bonus coverage.
Anybody who had Chicago/Miami from the getgo got it until the end. Bonus coverage is just that...BONUS
Flex scheduling which started a few years ago (2014). The "old rule" of AFC road team = CBS and NFC road team = FOX isnt the rule anymore. The NFL can "flex" games to different timeslots or different networks to get "the best game possible to the most eyes". In fact both CBS late games were NFC vs NFC (SF/LAR was the other)
An example of this is at the beginning of the year Cleveland has FIVE games on FOX...normally it would be two max. They have 3 games where they are the road team yet its on FOX....one of which was against Oakland
I suspect it has more to do with the AFC having fewer top-20 market teams than the NFC. Both conferences have NYC, LA, and the Bay Area (at least through next season, after which the Oakland Raiders move to Lost Wages. The NFC also has Chicago, Philly, DFW, Washington, Atlanta, Detroit, the Twin Cities, Tampa Bay, Seattle, and Phoenix. The AFC also has Boston, Houston, Cleveland, Miami, and Denver (no teams in #18 Orlando or #20 Sacramento -- strictly NBA markets). This was a huge advantage for Fox, and why some NFC games now air on CBS, and a few AFC games air on Fox. It gives CBS a better chance at high ratings in the bigger markets that they used to own prior to 1994.
no it has to do with giving the best games to the most eyeballs. Wiki gives an example
For example, in 2014, the Carolina Panthers at Atlanta Falcons game in Week 17, originally a 1 PM Fox game, was cross-flexed to 4:25 PM on CBS. Despite the two teams' losing records, they were playing a game where the winner would become the NFC South champion and host a first-round playoff game. As Fox already had crucial NFC North games with playoff implications, and CBS did not have any games with such assigned to 4:25 PM (games with AFC playoff implications had been assigned to 1 PM), the NFL reassigned the game to CBS at 4:25 PM to give affiliates a game with playoff implications at the time.
It also is used to balance out the workload. As example week 2 Cleveland/Nawlins was on FOX even though Cleveland was the road team. Otherwise you would have had 6 CBS early games vs. 3 FOX early games. Both had 2 late games even though CBS had the DH
Week 10 the NFL did the following.
Moved GB/Miami game from 1 to 4:25 on CBS. This gives CBS 2 late games vs. just Seattle/Rams
Arizona/KC got moved from FOX to CBS (even though AZ is the road team). This gives both nets 4 early games vs. now 3 for CBS & 5 for FOX
Why did the CBS schedule last night get delayed 15 minutes?
"The OT" was on Fox.
Here is an interesting idea. Another site I go to had two suggestions for Thursday night. Three, actually, if you count the person who said no Thursday night games except on Thanksgiving.
Someone else didn't think it was right for any player to have to play twice in five days. So schedule two teams after their bye weeks.
Another idea was the two worst teams, making Thursday night a comedy show.
"The OT" was on Fox.
Here is an interesting idea. Another site I go to had two suggestions for Thursday night. Three, actually, if you count the person who said no Thursday night games except on Thanksgiving.
Someone else didn't think it was right for any player to have to play twice in five days. So schedule two teams after their bye weeks.
Another idea was the two worst teams, making Thursday night a comedy show.
If you had the late CBS game the game ran long. Got done about 12 after the hour
Fox had the DH but there were areas that got only a late CBS game. These areas in the EST/CST zone got the late game
Minnesota
Chicago
Milwaukee
Atlanta
Tampa
Buffalo
Detroit
Charlotte (they had Houston/Denver as the late game instead of Seattle/LA Chargers)
The Bolded areas HAD to take the late game as their team was at home in the early FOX slot
The Italicized areas took a game as to not go against the home team
Milwaukee? Well they're just drunk
Tough loss for Seattle yesterday. The Chargers' defense was too good for Russell Wilson. The 'No Sherman, No Chancellor, No Lynch' curse has hit Seattle pretty hard IMO. Not often you see a Seattle game on CBS, but the Chargers are an AFC team.
Then flipped it over for the Saints upsetting the Rams on Fox. Y'know, I was REALLY expecting Curt Menefee to show up with a few minutes to go, since it was 4:30 PT: 'due to NFL regulations we have to pull you off the Rams game and start 'The OT', don't blame me...' Thank goodness I didn't see Curt, unlike all the bonus coverage segments I've seen. Like pulling us off Miami a few weeks ago in OT to air infomercials thanks to CBS's late game. BTW, impressive job by Drew Brees and the Saints defense!
Then flipped it over for the Saints upsetting the Rams on Fox. Y'know, I was REALLY expecting Curt Menefee to show up with a few minutes to go, since it was 4:30 PT: 'due to NFL regulations we have to pull you off the Rams game and start 'The OT', don't blame me...' Thank goodness I didn't see Curt, unlike all the bonus coverage segments I've seen. Like pulling us off Miami a few weeks ago in OT to air infomercials thanks to CBS's late game. BTW, impressive job by Drew Brees and the Saints defense!
different scenarios
Yesterday FOX had the DH game and everyone except for Seattle and Denver got the game (they didnt due to being at home on CBS in the late slot). When FOX has the DH they wait until all games are done before doing the OT which runs until 7 CST then prime time starts.
When the network that has the single header and they are showing bonus coverage they can show it until 3:25 CST or when the drive happening at that time ends (turnover, punt, score, etc). If you have had that game from the getgo then you keep it until the end regardless of rules. Like a couple weeks ago the Vikes and Jets were on FOX (SH week) and the game ran until 3:35PM. If you had the game from the getgo you get it until the end. The one "oddball" is if you get switched due to the "blowout rule". Thats what happened in week 5. We had KC/Jax as our game. It turned into a blowout so CBS switched us to "a more competitive game" of Baltimore and Cleveland which went into OT so that became the game we got until conclusion. There were markets who got it near the end of regular time as "bonus coverage" and they got dropped at 3:25. The folks who had the game due to the blowout rule continued to get the game to its conclusion.
So using next week as an example. You are scheduled to get Nawlins and Cincy as the FOX game (CBS has the DH). You will get that game to the end regardless of time. If the game gets done at say 1:08 PT and they switch you to "bonus coverage" of Atlanta & Cleveland (because its the only early game still going). If the game is still going at 1:25 PT they (FOX) have to take you away from it due to rules.
Well, yes, I knew the game ran long. But until I read this I didn't know both networks could have a late game. I wasn't as aware of such things when I didn't have a CBS show on Sunday night.If you had the late CBS game the game ran long. Got done about 12 after the hour
Fox had the DH but there were areas that got only a late CBS game. These areas in the EST/CST zone got the late game
Minnesota
Chicago
Milwaukee
Atlanta
Tampa
Buffalo
Detroit
Charlotte (they had Houston/Denver as the late game instead of Seattle/LA Chargers)
The Bolded areas HAD to take the late game as their team was at home in the early FOX slot
The Italicized areas took a game as to not go against the home team
Milwaukee? Well they're just drunk
The singleheader network will always have at least one regional game in the late time slot. You have the West Coast home games that start later (1pm local Pacific time, or 2pm local Mountain time.) Also there needs to be a late game available for affiliates in those NFL markets that have their team playing an early game at home on the opposite network, therefore having TV exclusivity in that time slot.
This past Sunday CBS, which was the singleheader network, had two late regional games: Chargers-Seahawks, and Texans-Broncos. Both games ran late, but ended about the same time. If one late singleheader game ends earlier than the other, the network will have bonus coverage of the other game, unless it is a blowout. This means CBS only has to run two prime time feeds for ET/CT instead of three (the early singleheader markets of course start 60 Minutes on time.)
Like this week FOX has the singleheader. Markets in the east/central that are carrying the late game of Chargers/Oakland
Boston
NYC
Buffalo
Indy
Nashville
Jacksonville
KC/Columbia, MO
same rules apply
BOLD-team at home on CBS early slot
Italics-team on road....network doesnt want to show game against it
Boston
NYC
Buffalo
Indy
Nashville
Jacksonville
KC/Columbia, MO
same rules apply
BOLD-team at home on CBS early slot
Italics-team on road....network doesnt want to show game against it
If you had the late CBS game the game ran long. Got done about 12 after the hour
Fox had the DH but there were areas that got only a late CBS game. These areas in the EST/CST zone got the late game
Minnesota
Chicago
Milwaukee
Atlanta
Tampa
Buffalo
Detroit
Charlotte (they had Houston/Denver as the late game instead of Seattle/LA Chargers)
The Bolded areas HAD to take the late game as their team was at home in the early FOX slot
The Italicized areas took a game as to not go against the home team
Milwaukee? Well they're just drunk
I wonder if there were a lot of angry calls last Sunday night in those forementioned markets about why "60 Minutes" was running late.
I wonder if there were a lot of angry calls last Sunday night in those forementioned markets about why "60 Minutes" was running late.
I think any idiot could simply look at the tv and see that the game is still going on, thus delaying 60 Minutes.
Delays on CBS Sunday prime time due to football have been going on for decades. Viewers are used to it. Anyone bothered by that needs to get a life.
forgot to mention FOX is scheduling a replay of episode 1 of Last Man Standing and a rerun of Bobs Burgers. The markets above will just have the program JIP'd
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