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The Programming Disputes Thread

https://deadline.com/2019/07/att-ac...ay-tv-customers-to-cbs-all-access-1202649137/

As the deadline nears in AT&T’s carriage dispute with CBS stations, the telecom giant is accusing the broadcaster of trying to “up-sell” customers to subscription streaming service CBS All Access.

The current contract between CBS stations in more than a dozen markets, including New York and LA, and AT&T-owned satellite giant DirecTV, DirecTV Now and U-verse cable systems expires Friday at 11PM PT. The spat comes at the same time that local stations owned by Nexstar have also hit an impasse with AT&T, leaving those stations dark for the past two-plus weeks.

In a lengthy statement Friday morning, AT&T said it has “offered to pay CBS an unprecedented rate increase and the highest fee we currently pay to any major broadcast network group. CBS has refused.”
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:cool: :rolleyes: Why is AT&T Shocked that CBS is trying to sell All Access subscriptions in the midst of the AT&T Contract Dispute. So Is Nexstar with the KRON-ON App for San Francisco Viewers and So is AT&T Itself for HBO Max. This is not shocking that a contract dispute is being used to boost people over to streaming outlets.
 
CBS O&O stations gone from Directv
https://keepcbs.com/

Among its stations are WCBS-TV and WLNY-TV (New York), KCBS-TV and KCAL-TV (Los Angeles), WBBM-TV (Chicago), KYW-TV and WPSG-TV (Philadelphia), KTVT-TV and KTXA-TV (Dallas-Ft. Worth), KPIX-TV and KBCW-TV (San Francisco), WUPA-TV (Atlanta), WBZ-TV and WSBK-TV (Boston), KSTW-TV (Seattle), WTOG-TV (Tampa-St. Petersburg), WWJ-TV and WKBD-TV (Detroit), WCCO-TV (Minneapolis-St. Paul), WFOR-TV and WBFS-TV (Miami), KCNC-TV (Denver), KOVR-TV and KMAX-TV (Sacramento), KDKA-TV and WPCW-TV (Pittsburgh) and WJZ-TV (Baltimore), as well as WCCO-TV’s satellite station KCCW-TV (Walker, Minn.).
 
unclehonkey said:
CBS O&O stations gone from Directv
https://keepcbs.com/

Among its stations are WCBS-TV and WLNY-TV (New York), KCBS-TV and KCAL-TV (Los Angeles), WBBM-TV (Chicago), KYW-TV and WPSG-TV (Philadelphia), KTVT-TV and KTXA-TV (Dallas-Ft. Worth), KPIX-TV and KBCW-TV (San Francisco), WUPA-TV (Atlanta), WBZ-TV and WSBK-TV (Boston), KSTW-TV (Seattle), WTOG-TV (Tampa-St. Petersburg), WWJ-TV and WKBD-TV (Detroit), WCCO-TV (Minneapolis-St. Paul), WFOR-TV and WBFS-TV (Miami), KCNC-TV (Denver), KOVR-TV and KMAX-TV (Sacramento), KDKA-TV and WPCW-TV (Pittsburgh) and WJZ-TV (Baltimore), as well as WCCO-TV’s satellite station KCCW-TV (Walker, Minn.).
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In the cities where CBS owns the CW and CBS affiliates I will bet there will be lots of advertising to get more people to All Access and speed up releasing more Local editions of CBSN. So far Los Angeles and NYC has CBSN the local edition.
 
Millions of people losing out on CBS with this dispute. Not to mention the other millions who have Nexstar CBS's and are out on satellite too. Watch ratings for shows like Big Brother drop.
Then you have Northwest vs. DirecTV. I haven't seen KFFX since February. No change at all to that situation. No deal, Brian Brady stumbles around and so does AT&T/DIRECTV. They are both idiots and should be blamed. Remember, Spectrum dropped Northwest stations last year for over 4 months...this isn't new!!
What's next? Sinclair?
 
crainbebo said:
Millions of people losing out on CBS with this dispute. Not to mention the other millions who have Nexstar CBS's and are out on satellite too. Watch ratings for shows like Big Brother drop.
Then you have Northwest vs. DirecTV. I haven't seen KFFX since February. No change at all to that situation. No deal, Brian Brady stumbles around and so does AT&T/DIRECTV. They are both idiots and should be blamed. Remember, Spectrum dropped Northwest stations last year for over 4 months...this isn't new!!
What's next? Sinclair?
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Does Northwest media advertise their streaming outlets the same way that Nexstar, CBS and AT&T do when they get hit with contract disputes. All this is going to do is make streaming TV accelerate faster than expected.
 
and now, Dish is facing blackouts from The Walt Disney owned FX Network/Nat Geo, Fox's owned networks and the soon to be owned by Sinclair FSN RSNs as that contract is set to expire, this is the first time a dispute has happen since the 21st Century Fox/Disney merger and the birth of New Fox and Sinclair buying the FSN RSNs from Disney/Fox as part of the DOJ's approval of the merger.

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/dish-faces-multiple-outages-carriage-contracts-disney-fox-sports-1203274496/
 
RadioPatrol said:
Does Northwest media advertise their streaming outlets the same way that Nexstar, CBS and AT&T do when they get hit with contract disputes. All this is going to do is make streaming TV accelerate faster than expected.
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I believe the streaming services have to pay the networks and local stations as well. They'll have their own disputes in time.
 
Will_H_69_9 said:
and now, Dish is facing blackouts from The Walt Disney owned FX Network/Nat Geo, Fox's owned networks and the soon to be owned by Sinclair FSN RSNs as that contract is set to expire, this is the first time a dispute has happen since the 21st Century Fox/Disney merger and the birth of New Fox and Sinclair buying the FSN RSNs from Disney/Fox as part of the DOJ's approval of the merger.

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/dish-faces-multiple-outages-carriage-contracts-disney-fox-sports-1203274496/
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Damn Dish is in 5 Disputes at the Same time with, Fox, Disney, AT&T, Meredith and Possibly Sinclair if they get regional RSN's

Expect ABC owned stations like KGO-TV and KABC-TV to aggressively advertise Disney+, Hulu Live and Hulu for subscribers when the Dish Dispute takes place and for Fox Owned Stations to advertise their apps as in Fox News , Fox Sports and their Local O&O's.
 
https://www.democratandchronicle.co...l-8-how-to-get-your-channels-back/1703118001/

Apparently AT&T is in dispute with Deerfield too along with Nexstar and CBS at the same time.
Wait. What's going on?
For those wondering about the details on why this is happening in the first place, here’s the short version.

AT&T, which owns DirecTV, is currently hammering out contract agreements with Deerfield Media, which owns Channel 13, and Nexstar Media Group, which owns Channel 8.

Channel 13 went dark in late May, and Channel 8 did the same at 11:59 p.m. on July 3 (120 other Nexstar stations nationwide went down simultaneously.) In the case of Channel 8, AT&T and Nexstar slung competing statements at each other earlier this week, blaming the other for the holdup.

“These types of disputes are often resolved quickly,” said AT&T in a recent statement. But if the Channel 13/Deerfield Media Group dispute is any indication, it might be a while — Channel 13 has yet to come back after nearly two months.

U.S. Representative Joseph Morelle, D-Irondequoit, sent a disapproving letter to AT&T and Nexstar on Wednesday, asking that the lost channels be restored while the contract dispute continues.

"Individuals and families rely on these local channels for their daily news, including important weather and public safety information," the letter read. "To deny this programming is an irresponsible disservice to the community."
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https://www.sj-r.com/news/20190716/...keep-stations-off-directv-in-springfield-area

Apparently in this report Sinclair has been hit with the contract dispute with AT&T at the same time CBS and Nexstar is in a contract dispute.

Gary Hackler, vice president and general manager of Champaign-based WCIA, a CBS affiliate, and WCIX, another station in the Springfield-Champaign-Decatur market known as MyNetwork TV, were taken off the DirecTV system — a subsidiary of AT&T — as of midnight July 3. According to the Broadcasting & Cable trade magazine, more than 120 Nexstar Media Group stations across the country, including those central Illinois stations, went dark to DirecTV, DirecTV NOW and AT&T U-verse TV customers at that time. The stations are in 97 markets.

Meanwhile, on May 30, 17 small TV stations in 14 markets went dark on DirecTV over a retransmission consent dispute, according to Multichannel News and affected companies including GoCom Media of Illinois. WRSP, known as Fox Illinois, is a GoCom station operated under a shared services agreement with Sinclair Broadcast Group.

“We’re at the negotiating table trying to come to an agreement,” said Hackler of WCIA. “It’s at our corporate level. ... At the end of the day, we’re working diligently to come to some sort of an agreement and hopefully that will be soon.”

In a statement on an AT&T website, the company said, “We had hoped to prevent Nexstar from joining GoCom Media of Illinois by pulling” WCIA and WCIX from the Champaign-Springfield-Decatur area.
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Don CT said:
The more these disputes pile up the worse it will look for AT&T to say it's not their fault.
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These things almost never happened with DirecTV until very recently. AT&T has to be held responsible. All the broadcasters can't be overly greedy at the same time, can they? Oh... wait...

I hope they're deducting the blacked out stations' fees from the subscribers' bills. Here in Phoenix, it isn't much (only CBSSN and KASW are blacked out here), but in some markets it could be significant.
 
One of the providers is doing this with Merideth...or vice-versa. They own WFSB-TV (CBS) channel 3 of Hartford. My last provider was Frontier. I can't recall any local ever being blacked out in the 3 years my family had their service. In fact, we even got the major NYC locals for a time. In HD with no blackouts! In Hartford County! :eek:

What would shock me is if Comcast ever dropped WVIT-TV (NBC) channel 30 of New Britain. Um...they're an O&O affiliate. That will NEVER happen! :rolleyes: (Comcast serves Hartford, New Britain, Middletown, New Haven, Danbury and (I think?) Waterbury.)
 
Things are only going to get worse if the NAB keeps hammering their member station groups to grab more money from the retransmission pool. The pay TV delivery model has lasted 40+ years, it's had a good run. I just don't see the long-term survival of traditional cable or satellite TV, ESPECIALLY satellite since they're the ones that get into about 90 percent of all the disputes.
 
EricStein said:
Things are only going to get worse if the NAB keeps hammering their member station groups to grab more money from the retransmission pool. The pay TV delivery model has lasted 40+ years, it's had a good run. I just don't see the long-term survival of traditional cable or satellite TV, ESPECIALLY satellite since they're the ones that get into about 90 percent of all the disputes.
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The satellite companies are still stuck in the contract model that the cellular companies have been abandoning, and cable never adopted. In other words, I can't just quit DirecTV just because I lost a few channels, like I could with Cox. Both satellite companies have their customers by the short ones, and everybody knows it.

The beginning of the end of satellite TV has already begun. AT&T announced that their last satellite was launched a couple of months ago. And if they can't be maintained from the ground, they will be allowed to die over time. I'm sure Dish will follow suit, if they haven't already. This will hurt rural America first, as cable and high speed internet via fiber may not be available in the most remote areas. I believe HughesNet runs its services off of DirecTV satellites, so they'll be on their way out as well.
 
KeithE4 said:
The satellite companies are still stuck in the contract model that the cellular companies have been abandoning, and cable never adopted. In other words, I can't just quit DirecTV just because I lost a few channels, like I could with Cox. Both satellite companies have their customers by the short ones, and everybody knows it.

The beginning of the end of satellite TV has already begun. AT&T announced that their last satellite was launched a couple of months ago. And if they can't be maintained from the ground, they will be allowed to die over time. I'm sure Dish will follow suit, if they haven't already. This will hurt rural America first, as cable and high speed internet via fiber may not be available in the most remote areas. I believe HughesNet runs its services off of DirecTV satellites, so they'll be on their way out as well.
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https://www.ulalaunch.com/docs/default-source/news-items/av_echostarxix_mob.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EchoStar

Apparently Hughesnet now runs from Echostar's Satellite system
 
KeithE4 said:
The beginning of the end of satellite TV has already begun. AT&T announced that their last satellite was launched a couple of months ago. And if they can't be maintained from the ground, they will be allowed to die over time. I'm sure Dish will follow suit, if they haven't already. This will hurt rural America first, as cable and high speed internet via fiber may not be available in the most remote areas. I believe HughesNet runs its services off of DirecTV satellites, so they'll be on their way out as well.
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AT&T is introducing a new service that uses a streaming box that will eventually replace the satellites. It was originally supposed to be a new option for DirecTV but has been changed to being called AT&T TV: https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/eve...v-the-new-live-tv-streaming-service-from-att/

I had considered going to it when it is introduced but with their recent disputes I've ruled them out.

Also, Amazon and Space X are developing a new system of thousands of small satellites to provide new options for high speed internet to rural areas: https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/ama...satellites-to-offer-high-speed-home-internet/
 


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