Could they buy KXXF and simulcast programming??
Could they even try to move both closer to Houston and get rid of the translator??
-
Get involved.
We want your input!
Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.
After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.
After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/
Thanks in advance and have fun!
RadioDiscussions Administrators
Could they buy KXXF and simulcast programming??
Could they even try to move both closer to Houston and get rid of the translator??
C
cotton belt
Guest
Nothing stopping Sara Franco from doing just that. It just takes the money and the desire. We know she has one, but does she have the other?
Nope. KHCB-FM is a full Class C in Houston. Both KXXF and KTWL are as close to Houston as they can get. Notice that the KTWL construction permit and COL change involve a shift eastward towards The Woodlands, and not a shift southeast towards Houston. KHCB-FM is the reason.
The real obstacle is KAMA, not KHCB. If KAMA were to magically move to Missouri City (it can't without losing coverage due to stations in LaGrange, Victoria, and Bryan being too close), then that would open the door for KXXF to rimshot into Houston (if it can get KYKS and KTWL out of the way... I'm sure I'm missing a few other stations).
Not only is this not feasible, but extremely hard. Too many parties to convince.
Or.....
You can move KTWL up north and upgrade KXXF from existing site to 100k. The property and the tower is owned by KXXF. Upgrading KXXF to 100k gives them the opportunity to go full HD and leasing HD Channels and feeding K287BQ. If you want to get fancy and have a bigger foot print buy the same transmitter for KXXF,KTWL AND K287BQ program the Rds to switch over to the closest tower and then suddenly you can cover from Louisiana to College Station way more coverage than KAMA for a fraction Univision/Heftel/Tichenor Media paid for KAMA. We see it done here in Los Angeles with KDAY and KDEY.
You can move KTWL up north and upgrade KXXF from existing site to 100k. The property and the tower is owned by KXXF. Upgrading KXXF to 100k gives them the opportunity to go full HD and leasing HD Channels and feeding K287BQ. If you want to get fancy and have a bigger foot print buy the same transmitter for KXXF,KTWL AND K287BQ program the Rds to switch over to the closest tower and then suddenly you can cover from Louisiana to College Station way more coverage than KAMA for a fraction Univision/Heftel/Tichenor Media paid for KAMA. We see it done here in Los Angeles with KDAY and KDEY.
C
cotton belt
Guest
KAMA-FM is, too, an obstacle. You are correct. However, even with a KAMA-FM move to accommodate them, neither KTWL or KXXF could be moved closer to Houston proper with KHCB-FM on the opposite second adjacent channel.
KTWL is just kind of stuck, BamaTX. Can't move towards Houston, and it can't retreat toward Aggieland, thanks to KMIL. Given the recent reputation of the proposed licensee, with regards to the apparent excessive wattage pumping out of K287BQ, it may not even matter that it can't be relocated. It'll simply start running the strongest "9,200 watts" you've ever heard.
C
cotton belt
Guest
With an objection from Houston Christian Broadcasters following closely behind the filing to do so.
It's owned by the estate of John Walton, through his LLC., Excel Media.
I sure hope the target audience lives in fantasyland, OSR. KXXF to 100,000 watts?!? Only if it's relocation involves getting parked on an oil platform out in the middle of the Gulf.
You dont even need the same transmitter! you just need the alternate frequency option programmed into the RDS unit, whatever RDS unit you have at the transmitter.
BUT this only works if youre on seperate frequencies.
old school radio is obviously a bit out of touch and out of clues
Yes don't listen to me "I'm obviously out of touch" getting old.
One thing is being "hearable". Another is being "listenable".
In a long study of listening at home and at work in half a decade of diaries in ten markets, including 5 of the top 10, it was found that 80% of listening was in the 70 dbu contour and 95% in the 65 dbu contour.
That shows what actual listeners will accept as far as signal strength on FM.
Add in the fact that few advertisers and essentially no agencies buy one station for a region or multiple markets, and there is nothing useful to coverage outside the local contours. What power does do is make reception clear and easy in the home market.
Fix
David, Easy fix. Make sure the signal covers where the ppm pagers are located. This Perticular signal already covers 90% of that with K287BQ. KXXF and KTWL would serve like KQBU-FM is to KAMA.
David, Easy fix. Make sure the signal covers where the ppm pagers are located. This Perticular signal already covers 90% of that with K287BQ. KXXF and KTWL would serve like KQBU-FM is to KAMA.
Last edited:
The translator has a 60 dbu covering 1.5 million in a market of 7.2 million. The PPM meters are located proportionally in all 11 counties of the MSA, while the translator just covers a small portion of one county. It does not cover where 80% of the meters are located.
Believe me David I heard that station two weeks ago (playing top 40) covering way more than 1.5 million people.. You can pick it up loud and clear from Baytown- Richmond, from clear lake to the woodlands. It will be interesting to see if they purchase KXXF to go along with KTWL.
Again, you are confusing "hear" with "listen". I can hear dozens more stations where I live than I would listen to; the signals are too marginal; they can't be heard at home and in the car they drop out and get interference too often to make them regular choices.
Same "hear"... i can hear quite a few stations here in WYbecause of terrain and my set up, but some of them are.. blah at best.... some are "not even a dxer would sit and listen to this at length" strength
C
cotton belt
Guest
No sir, not out of touch. You are simply out of your mind if you truly believe you can get away with what you are proposing. Buying out Roy Henderson is one thing, and I'm sure John Walton's widow would be pretty easy pickings, too. Getting HCB to go along with anything that will diminish or encroach on the coverage area of the main 105.7 signal is a whole 'nother ball game.
No, not an easy fix. The stations as they are licensed don't even come close to covering 90% of the population. No amount of construction permits will ever get you 90% of the metro area population (nevermind 90% of City of Houston residents).
The other option is to illegally broadcast outside of your licensed specs. That's a huge no-no. Last time K287BQ did that, it was interfering with KAMA's HD stream in some parts of Fourth Ward. Lots of dropouts that weren't there before the Translator signed on in downtown.
Not easy pickings.
How does a station at 105.3 encroach on a station at 105.7? That shouldn’t be an issue.
The FCC has a minimum distance separation for next adjacent channels that is based on the station class.
KHCB is a C, KTWL is a C3. they have to be 60 miles away
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/73.207
- Status