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March ratings are here

March numbers: Houston/Galveston - RadioInsight

Nothing too notable. 93Q pulls further ahead of The Bull.

KTRH sinks a bit further. Perhaps their audience is finally realizing Trump really really really is no longer President.

And our favorite dumpster fire, KROI rises a little bit with its new tower, but is still stuck in the zeroes. Is this the best Radio One can do?
 
KTRH sinks a bit further. Perhaps their audience is finally realizing Trump really really really is no longer President.
It would be interesting to see dayparts.

My guess is the death of Limbaugh has a lot to do with it. The current format of recycled Limbaugh bits that kinda sorta fit the topic of the day, set up by "guides" that nobody has ever heard of is beyond bad.

They spend a ridiculous amount of time continuing to eulogize Limbaugh. I tried listening twice - once about a week after his death, once about a month later. Both times, there was some poor schlub calling in to say what an awesome father figure Rush had been to them. Huh?

It's pointless, sappy nostalgia for a guy who was a great entertainer, but definitely not a good role model.

It's also unbelievably morbid. The show needed to die with him.

Here in Houston, I guess we're stuck with him until iHeart / Premiere decides to stop propping his corpse up behind the golden EIB microphone.
 
Radio Now 0.8? And A translator K287BQ 0.3? A small translator almost catching up to a powerful FM?
Meant to point that out. I think the Selena stunt got a bunch of listeners to lock in the 105.3 frequency, so when Power launched, the audience carried over. No such luck for La Caliente on a similar signal.

Also note that Fierro has shown up in the book for two months straight, so there are now three standalone HD-2 signals getting measurable listening.
 
Radio Now 0.8? And A translator K287BQ 0.3? A small translator almost catching up to a powerful FM?
I see KTWL, not the translator. KTWL is still "Texas Mix" and is listenable in portions of the market, so that may be it.

And if this is the translator, it's not an impressive number considering translators in other markets have done way better. A 0.3 for a niche format that targets a non-Mexican American audience is an overachiement. At this point, selling/justifying the format to clients must be comical. Outside of this being free, any good business person would stay away from this buy.
 
Also note that Fierro has shown up in the book for two months straight, so there are now three standalone HD-2 signals getting measurable listening.
I don't think KXTN has ever showed up, which goes to show you how Univision ran that station's legacy to the ground. But this is another discussion for another board.

Having said that, it doesn't take much for a station to show up in the ratings. IIRC, it only requires handful of PPM listeners to tune in.
 
I see KTWL, not the translator. KTWL is still "Texas Mix" and is listenable in portions of the market, so that may be it.
When there is a 100% simulcast (a legal requirement for commercial translators) stations may elect for Total Line Reporting, with the sum of all sources for the same content. Of course, with translators the simulcast reporting is automatic.
And if this is the translator, it's not an impressive number considering translators in other markets have done way better. A 0.3 for a niche format that targets a non-Mexican American audience is an overachiement. At this point, selling/justifying the format to clients must be comical. Outside of this being free, any good business person would stay away from this buy.
Markets where translators do the best are either geographically compact or have much of the population concentrated in areas where the translator covers. Houston is enormous geographically, so translators don't have the ability to do as well, even if they are up on Senior Road.
 
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I don't think KXTN has ever showed up, which goes to show you how Univision ran that station's legacy to the ground. But this is another discussion for another board.
KXTN was long dead when it moved to AM. Its demos were very, very old and it had started to lose its big billings back when it was still Tichenor owned
Having said that, it doesn't take much for a station to show up in the ratings. IIRC, it only requires handful of PPM listeners to tune in.
In fact, just one usage by one subscriber will give you a 0.1 consolation prize.
 
It would be interesting to see dayparts.

My guess is the death of Limbaugh has a lot to do with it. The current format of recycled Limbaugh bits that kinda sorta fit the topic of the day, set up by "guides" that nobody has ever heard of is beyond bad.

They spend a ridiculous amount of time continuing to eulogize Limbaugh. I tried listening twice - once about a week after his death, once about a month later. Both times, there was some poor schlub calling in to say what an awesome father figure Rush had been to them. Huh?

It's pointless, sappy nostalgia for a guy who was a great entertainer, but definitely not a good role model.

It's also unbelievably morbid. The show needed to die with him.

Here in Houston, I guess we're stuck with him until iHeart / Premiere decides to stop propping his corpse up behind the golden EIB microphone.
Actually, KTRH is well within the average range maintained for all of 2000 except an election window spike. It tends to wobble up and down over a nearly 2 share range, and has for years.

As to the "Rush" hours, a comparison with all but the months around election time last year shows March to be off about 30%. But the other dayparts look strong, and are in a good range comparable to the better 2020 months.
 
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When there is a 100% simulcast (a legal requirement for commercial translators) stations may elect for Total Line Reporting, with the sum of all sources for the same content. Of course, with translators the simulcast reporting is automatic.
KTWL isn't simulcasted on a translator.
Markets where translators do the best are either geographically compact or have much of the population concentrated in areas where the translator covers. Houston is enormous geographically, so translators don't have the ability to do as well, even if they are up on Senior Road.
Sure, assuming translators are sticking to their FCC licensed ERP, height, and transmitter location.
 
KXTN was long dead when it moved to AM. Its demos were very, very old and it had started to lose its big billings back when it was still Tichenor owned
I don't know spanish, but I do know Tejano (or "Texano" to be exact) music is a very diverse genre with different styles of music influencing it. Norteño, Ranchera, R&B, rock, polka, country, and even the blues have all left their mark on this unique genre. Part of me wonders if this variety caused both the format's rise and downfall?

I know you've said that the station was tinkered with based on research. But I tried listened to KXTN last month and the station sounds like it is all over the place. Some of the songs sound "Norteño" based (lots of accordion), others sound like 80s synthesized songs, a few sound like modern Big Band songs, and from time to time some songs will sound like R&B inspired songs. It seems like KXTN has always focused on which artists to play instead of focusing on finding a genre/sound/identity. IMO, KXTN should have tried to find new 1st and 2nd generation Hispanic listeners instead of trying to grow from the same pool of aging "Tejanos".

(On a side note, I didn't hear the "Mi Trokita" sensation play on KXTN once during the two hours I listened. Seems like an obvious song to play on a Texas based format).

I appreciate your input on what went on behind the scenes David. We know that your experience and expertise makes all of our resumes look like used toilet paper. But for some reason, I can't help but feel that Univision didn't do its best. "Corporate research" on these types of regionalized formats are known to miss their mark. I'm sad to see a Texas format die, but it is what it is. I just think Tejano was worth trying to salvage due to the history it has on our state.

But like always, yay corporate radio 😐.
In fact, just one usage by one subscriber will give you a 0.1 consolation prize.
I'll leave you with this;

KXTN has been on KLTN-HD2 for over a decade and has never shown up in the ratings. KLOL-HD2 has spent about a year on the air and is already showing up.

Interpret that however you want.
 
I'll leave you with this;

KXTN has been on KLTN-HD2 for over a decade and has never shown up in the ratings. KLOL-HD2 has spent about a year on the air and is already showing up.

Interpret that however you want.
All I can say about this is that KXTN has nothing on KLOL HD2. In my opinion Radio is something like sports. San Antonio, Houston and Dallas are all in Texas. But Houstonians don’t cheer for Mavericks, or The Spurs. Dallas doesn’t cheer the Rockets, Ect ect. Same with Radio, KXTN most of the time only mentions SAN ANTONIO. KLOL HD 2 is more of a local station to all 3. They always send shout outs to Houston, Dallas, San Antonio ect ect.
 
All I can say about this is that KXTN has nothing on KLOL HD2. In my opinion Radio is something like sports. San Antonio, Houston and Dallas are all in Texas. But Houstonians don’t cheer for Mavericks, or The Spurs. Dallas doesn’t cheer the Rockets, Ect ect. Same with Radio, KXTN most of the time only mentions SAN ANTONIO. KLOL HD 2 is more of a local station to all 3. They always send shout outs to Houston, Dallas, San Antonio ect ect.
And the programmer of the HD-2 channel is J.D. González out of the Dallas cluster. J.D. was one of the early PDs of KXTN when it moved from AM to FM back when TAC had it.

When KXTN first went on, it was on 1310 and an AC was on the FM. The ratings immediately showed the AM Tejano doing better than the FM, and they flipped. Soon after, the original KXTN PD was departed, and J.D. took over and led the station to double digit shares.

But remember that HD-2 signals that are part of a subscriber's clusters get a 0.1 even if they just register a single meter reading with one subscriber. It's sort of a "Courtesy Title". In fact, much of the KLOL-HD-2 listening is on weekends only.
 
I know you've said that the station was tinkered with based on research. But I tried listened to KXTN last month and the station sounds like it is all over the place.
It went on the AM out of consideration for the heritage listeners. No money is spent on research as the station stopped billing competitively over a decade ago.
Some of the songs sound "Norteño" based (lots of accordion), others sound like 80s synthesized songs, a few sound like modern Big Band songs, and from time to time some songs will sound like R&B inspired songs. It seems like KXTN has always focused on which artists to play instead of focusing on finding a genre/sound/identity. IMO, KXTN should have tried to find new 1st and 2nd generation Hispanic listeners instead of trying to grow from the same pool of aging "Tejanos".
The younger listeners to Spanish language radio are not "Tejanos". They are immigrants from Mexico.

Younger listeners have no interest in Tejano music, and are either into current regional Mexican or reggaetón.

Tejano is like Big Band. Radio dropped the bands in the 50's, but the bands kept playing for seniors at dances and concerts all over the country for decades. The music reappeard to an extent on Al Ham's Music of the Remaining Years of Your Life but those stations could not compete for big accounts and mostly survived on mom and pop businesses on dying AM stations. Sound familiar?

There were never any young folks who wanted to go see Tex Beneke or Lester Lanin, either.
(On a side note, I didn't hear the "Mi Trokita" sensation play on KXTN once during the two hours I listened. Seems like an obvious song to play on a Texas based format).
They probably are not updating the music often, and Trokita is not really Tejano music. On the other hand, if they were actually paying attention, it would have been played. But it's a dead format.
I appreciate your input on what went on behind the scenes David. We know that your experience and expertise makes all of our resumes look like used toilet paper. But for some reason, I can't help but feel that Univision didn't do its best. "Corporate research" on these types of regionalized formats are known to miss their mark. I'm sad to see a Texas format die, but it is what it is. I just think Tejano was worth trying to salvage due to the history it has on our state.
Univision did not do "corporate" research. We had a whole staff of research folks, and even a big dedicated call center of our own for callout research. Each big research project was done locally with total local input and teamwork in making the test playlist, the perceptual questions, the recruit and more. I know because directly supervising (and flying over 100,000 miles a year) the research division as well as outside contractors was part of my job.
But like always, yay corporate radio 😐.
This is not corporate radio. Lots of folks "inside the building" loved the format and the heritage. But it became unsalable and was losing money. The format would have been dropped years before, but there was concern about the damage to the "image" that would cause in San Antonio, long the home of the Tejano style.

But you will notice that the annual Tejano awards could not even get sponsorships in San Antonio and they moved to Corpus a number of years back.

On the other hand, KROM is "corporate radio" as it follows a standard format with out of market talent for the most part. It's currently #1 25-54 in San Antonio.
KXTN has been on KLTN-HD2 for over a decade and has never shown up in the ratings. KLOL-HD2 has spent about a year on the air and is already showing up.
That means it got one listener with one meter for at least 15 minutes. As mentioned before, those HD-2 channels with a 0.1 are mostly the "Thanks for playing" prize from Nielsen that subscriber groups get.
 
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March numbers: Houston/Galveston - RadioInsight

Nothing too notable. 93Q pulls further ahead of The Bull.

KTRH sinks a bit further. Perhaps their audience is finally realizing Trump really really really is no longer President.

And our favorite dumpster fire, KROI rises a little bit with its new tower, but is still stuck in the zeroes. Is this the best Radio One can do?
I'm surprised radio one let KROI keep it in the dumpster for so long. I never could get them, I can usually get them in my car. I didn't think radio one would of been a company that would keep a radio station that long in the dump.
 
I'm surprised radio one let KROI keep it in the dumpster for so long. I never could get them, I can usually get them in my car. I didn't think radio one would of been a company that would keep a radio station that long in the dump.
KROI's biggest problem is that it is (still) a deficient signal with a format that is too similar to what numerous other stations are doing with better signals. They need to find a format hole or niche that is unique to the market that will attract and hold an audience, despite the signal limitations.

I agree with what others have said that 92.1 would be a great place for an EMF style operation and format.
 
KROI's biggest problem is that it is (still) a deficient signal with a format that is too similar to what numerous other stations are doing with better signals. They need to find a format hole or niche that is unique to the market that will attract and hold an audience, despite the signal limitations.

I agree with what others have said that 92.1 would be a great place for an EMF style operation and format.
If you look at the Radio One/Entercom deal a few months ago, in which Radio One built out a full cluster in Charlotte in exchange for Entercom building full clusters in St. Louis, Philadelphia, and Washington (and Radio One completely exiting St. Louis), I think you have the guide for what is to come.

Whether Radio One sees Houston as a market they want to be in long-term is anyone's guess. But if so, KRBE is the obvious station to trade for, and if that were to play out, Radio Now would be gone faster than you can say Tino Cochino.
 
Whether Radio One sees Houston as a market they want to be in long-term is anyone's guess. But if so, KRBE is the obvious station to trade for, and if that were to play out, Radio Now would be gone faster than you can say Tino Cochino.
I'm starting to wonder if Cumulus has any intention of selling KRBE in the foreseeable future. Apparently they regard it as the eighth station in their DFW cluster, and manage it that way. I'm sure iHeart, Audacy, and Cox would love to get their hands on the signal, but that hasn't happened. Any new owner would almost certainly keep 104.1 the way it is, unless there was a shocking sale to EMF.

Curious what RO would do with KROI were it to be their fourth signal in the market...innovate something new or sell it to offset any KRBE purchase?
 
Whether Radio One sees Houston as a market they want to be in long-term is anyone's guess. But if so, KRBE is the obvious station to trade for, and if that were to play out, Radio Now would be gone faster than you can say Tino Cochino.
Urban One has the 4th and 6th highest billers in the market, and Houston is a growth market.

I can't see why they would leave the market, but having more than two stations does not fit their business model.
 
Whether Radio One sees Houston as a market they want to be in long-term is anyone's guess. But if so, KRBE is the obvious station to trade for, and if that were to play out, Radio Now would be gone faster than you can say Tino Cochino.
I think this question is better suited for their Dallas cluster. Both of their stations have consistently underperformed against the locally owned Service stations. Is DFW a market worth trying to salvage?
 
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