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What is "real rock"?

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vchimpanzee

During a break in the Christmas music (I was nearly home anyway and didn't even hear the entire commercial) iHeart's Mix 99.5 Greensboro NC advertised Real Rock 105.7 in a full-length commercial. This is a technique I wasn't aware any companies were doing.

I can remember when "real rock" was not classic rock. The announcer said the station plays classic rock, which doesn't really distinguish it from Rock 92. The music samples were "Bohemian Rhapsody" by Queen (seriously?), "Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana and "You Shook Me All Night Long" by AC/DC.

Now while they're not really making this clear in this ad, 105.7 has, except when it was alternative for a while (and alternative did include grunge, I think), always rocked harder than Rock 92, which has had a reputation for not being musically adventurous. I think Rock 92 did finally add Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots but it was really known for 70s music that compared to, say, grunge, is quite easygoing.
 
Except for very isolated cases there is no "real Rock" any longer. The 60's, 70's, and 80's are gone and so are a significant number of the very talented musicians who put those tracks together. Today we have noise and junk which have existed since the mid-80's. While Rolling Stone continues to publish their BS about the state of modern rock music the people who lived through the above decades know the real truth. Just read the comments following any presentation or discussion of a modern (misidentified) rock song. Rock is dead. The amateurs have killed it. Thank the gods for technology which preserves the Classics.
 
landtuna said:
Except for very isolated cases there is no "real Rock" any longer. The 60's, 70's, and 80's are gone and so are a significant number of the very talented musicians who put those tracks together. Today we have noise and junk which have existed since the mid-80's. While Rolling Stone continues to publish their BS about the state of modern rock music the people who lived through the above decades know the real truth. Just read the comments following any presentation or discussion of a modern (misidentified) rock song. Rock is dead. The amateurs have killed it. Thank the gods for technology which preserves the Classics.
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Rock exists it's just not considered main stream anymore. Now are you talking about Metal, or hard rock. Where would the Foo Fighters fit in? They are probably the last main stream rock band.
 
Don CT said:
Rock exists it's just not considered main stream anymore.
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That's my very point. If real rock still existed it would be main stream. Not everyone is a Rock fan but for those that are there is still a ton of really good work out there to listen to. Some people describe classics as moldy oldies but the library is big enough it doesn't have to be. 30 years is a long run for a major genre.
 
landtuna said:
That's my very point. If real rock still existed it would be main stream. Not everyone is a Rock fan but for those that are there is still a ton of really good work out there to listen to. Some people describe classics as moldy oldies but the library is big enough it doesn't have to be. 30 years is a long run for a major genre.
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What is real rock though, the genre has become so fractured.
 
I only saw three songs on "last songs played" but "top songs" may provide more information. Here's the first 20.

"Under the Graveyard" by Ozzy Osbourne
"Shot In The Dark" by AC/DC
"Interstate Love Song" by Stone Temple Pilots
"Touch, Peel And Stand" by Days of the New
"Inside Out" by Five Finger Death Punch
"Basket Case" by Green Day
"My Own Worst Enemy" by Lit
"Patience" by Chris Cornell
"Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana
"Enter Sandman" by Metallica
"Give It Away" by Red Hot Chili Peppers
"Another One Bites The Dust" by Queen
"All The Small Things" by blink-182
"Believer" by Imagine Dragons
"Mama, I'm Coming Home" by Ozzy Osbourne
"My Hero" by Foo Fighters
"Say It Ain't So" by Weezer
"Self Esteem" by The Offspring
"Here I Go Again" by Whitesnake
 
vchimpanzee said:
I only saw three songs on "last songs played" but "top songs" may provide more information. Here's the first 20.

"Under the Graveyard" by Ozzy Osbourne
"Shot In The Dark" by AC/DC
"Interstate Love Song" by Stone Temple Pilots
"Touch, Peel And Stand" by Days of the New
"Inside Out" by Five Finger Death Punch
"Basket Case" by Green Day
"My Own Worst Enemy" by Lit
"Patience" by Chris Cornell
"Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana
"Enter Sandman" by Metallica
"Give It Away" by Red Hot Chili Peppers
"Another One Bites The Dust" by Queen
"All The Small Things" by blink-182
"Believer" by Imagine Dragons
"Mama, I'm Coming Home" by Ozzy Osbourne
"My Hero" by Foo Fighters
"Say It Ain't So" by Weezer
"Self Esteem" by The Offspring
"Here I Go Again" by Whitesnake
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That’s like an active rock classic rock hybrid.
 
vchimpanzee said:
That's what I was thinking. The man called it "classic rock" but that doesn't look like classic rock to me. Although I'm guessing a lot of those songs are old.
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"Another One Bites The Dust" by Queen is the only "classic" I could identify (although none of the rest are among my favs so I doubt if I heard most of them - just going by the band names).
 
Off topic, but I started this thread by mentioning how the iHeart AC in Greensboro is promoting other iHeart stations. Today I heard them promote Q-104.1, the "country" station.
 
Been happening here for a few years on Lotus' KLPX 96.1 (classic rock) and promos for their their sister station KFMA 102.1 (active rock).

Surmise that if you're going to tune out, stray, but don't stray away from the cluster.

I guess that works if you're a male of around 40 years of age or so.
 
I think KUPD Phoenix "Arizona's Real Rock" defines what is real rock:

Here's what they played in the last hour:

Red Hot Chili Peppers. "Dani California"

Alice in Chains "Would?"

DED "Kill beautiful things"

Linkin Park "Next Divide"

Beck "Loser"

Smashing Pumpkins "Today"

System of a Down "B.Y.O.B"

Nita Strauss "Dead Inside"

Stone Temple Pilots "Interstate Love Song"

STAIND "Right here"

And just heard Volbeat...Now that's REAL ROCK!
 
vchimpanzee said:
During a break in the Christmas music (I was nearly home anyway and didn't even hear the entire commercial) iHeart's Mix 99.5 Greensboro NC advertised Real Rock 105.7 in a full-length commercial. This is a technique I wasn't aware any companies were doing.
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Considering how diverse bands are added to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I'd say your definition doesn't line up with the consensus.
 
Kelly A said:
Considering how diverse bands are added to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I'd say your definition doesn't line up with the consensus.
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Fans of various styles of rock radio have different opinions from those who decide what goes in the Hall of Fame. This concept isn't even related.
 
vchimpanzee said:
Hey, now, I like Waylon and Hank Jr.
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Other than The Carter Family and Hank. Sr., the rest of those artists were 'contemporaries' of each other...to a degree:

(Wikipedia dates...)

Waylon: 1949-2002
Hank Jr.: 1964-present
T.T. Hall: 1963–2011
Waggoner: 1951–2007
Hank Sr.: 1937–1952
Carter fam.: 1927–1956
 
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