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I think at some point Audacy will flip many of its Alternative stations.

Miami will likely go back to Sports.
Not likely. Because of the huge and economically dominant Hispanic population, sports is a limited format in that market.
New York and Detroit will go News. Dallas is a question mark as is L.A.
Sunbelt markets don't do well with all news. Dallas is a hybrid, and LA significantly underperforms.
I think KROQ will stick around for most or all of 2022 as Audacy continues its attempt to rebuild the once great station. I could certainly see 107.5 in Vegas go Sports at some point but 2022 might not be the right time to pull the trigger. The Portland, Seattle, Richmond, Kansas City, and Sacramento stations will be left alone. I could see Orlando going back to CHR/Rhythmic, especially given the near term sale of WPYO.
I think Audacy is seeing how fragmented alternative rock is, but it is likely the will keep trying to find the magic sauce for a while longer. A major format change is horribly expensive and with this new wave of the pandemic, radio companies are likely to postpone any major multi market change.s
 
How is that a strategy?

Most of the K&B audience departed while Bean was still there. There were loads of threads on this board at the time wondering what happened to the once mighty KROQ. It was a long, slow, painful decline that had no other real ending. There are lots of people in LA who still miss Rick Dees on KIIS.
 
I think Kevin Kline was a good ad to the morning and they should have kept the other ally the new one just doesn't cut it. I wonder if bean had left instead of Kevin if they been in the same position?

I like Kevin and sluggo together on klos. Good pairing
 
Most of the K&B audience departed while Bean was still there. There were loads of threads on this board at the time wondering what happened to the once mighty KROQ. It was a long, slow, painful decline that had no other real ending. There are lots of people in LA who still miss Rick Dees on KIIS.
I can't believe you didn't note that anyone who still pines for Dees on KIIS has most likely aged out of the target demo.
 
I think at some point Audacy will flip many of its Alternative stations.

Miami will likely go back to Sports. New York and Detroit will go News. Dallas is a question mark as is L.A. I think KROQ will stick around for most or all of 2022 as Audacy continues its attempt to rebuild the once great station. I could certainly see 107.5 in Vegas go Sports at some point but 2022 might not be the right time to pull the trigger. The Portland, Seattle, Richmond, Kansas City, and Sacramento stations will be left alone. I could see Orlando going back to CHR/Rhythmic, especially given the near term sale of WPYO.
I think the Las Vegas and NYC alternative stations will also be left alone
 
Most of the K&B audience departed while Bean was still there. There were loads of threads on this board at the time wondering what happened to the once mighty KROQ. It was a long, slow, painful decline that had no other real ending. There are lots of people in LA who still miss Rick Dees on KIIS.
And, in the meantime, it became apparent that KROQ was way behind in music dayparts. So there was no cume base when mornings disintegrated.
 
Is there room for two successful alternative stations in the Los Angeles market? If the answer is truly no, I see KROQ eventually flipping formats unless Alt 98.7 begins to make some major mistakes.

I agree that the loss of the morning show, and some poor programming choices contributed to KROQ's decline, but I also believe that the very beginnings of KROQ's decline happened when their TSL's dropped right after 98.7 flipped to Alternative.
 
What is currently being heard OTA on 1110, ESPN or country Disney?
1110 has been (mostly) simulcasting with 710 AM since April 2021. (Exceptions for the occasional Angels, Ducks or L.A. Galaxy broadcasts.)

Radio Disney Country went out of service on January 1, 2021.

ESPN Disney, see today's Radioinsight.
All of these posts should have been placed in the KRDC Radio Disney 1110 thread - not this thread.
 
Fred Jacobs' excellent analysis deserves a read by all here...

I agree with a lot of what he says here. There's a point where certain formats just age out. It happened in the 80s with beautiful music. Just consider how much time, effort, and money was poured into that format. They played music, but in some cases it was original music. Music recorded by radio companies such as Bonneville to fit their format. They may have been the last radio company to do that. Can you imagine if iHeart recorded its own music that it played exclusively on it's stations? That's what once happened in radio.

When radio stopped recording its own music, they still kept close to it. At KROQ, there was Rodney Bingenheimer. I can't overstate his importance to KROQ. He was the connector between the music and the listeners. He was what Ryan Seacrest is now. Radio was, as Garth Brooks says, the window through which the audience saw the artists. That's what radio was able to do until social media happened. Once that happened, radio lost its purpose, at least for the rock audience. So now alterative as a useful radio seems to be aging out. That's not to say people don't love the music. They do. But radio needs to find a way to relate to the audience. Because the old ways are gone. Rodney's retired and Kevin Weatherly's at Spotify. I think Fred is correct about The Bridge in Buffalo. I think non-commercial radio is the future for innovation in radio.
 
Alternative has not aged out, far from it. Beautiful Music aged out in the 80s because the audience was so old it was dying off like the '50s and '60s Oldies format audience is today. By contrast, the audience who grew up with Alternative when they were in high school in the '90s are in their 40s today. That's prime sales demo right there. And it skews down from there because the format is also playing currents.

Also, the ability for radio to connect with listeners didn't end because of social media. It's not an either/or thing, they can coexist. You made the point yourself with Ryan Seacrest as the example at CHR.

There are a few problems at KROQ but ultimately the Program Director and his team are responsible. If we're going to heap accolades on Kevin Weatherly for doing everything right at KROQ in his day, then it's only fair to look to the person who occupies that role at KROQ now and ask what he's doing wrong. The answers are well summarized in Jacobs' article.
 
If we're going to heap accolades on Kevin Weatherly for doing everything right at KROQ in his day, then it's only fair to look to the person who occupies that role at KROQ now and ask what he's doing wrong.

Maybe what I meant about the format aging out was that those who were the driving force behind its initial success are aging out. That would be Mr. Weatherly. While he did a lot of great things, for some reason everything seems to grind to a halt. All the creativity disappeared , and the station just recycled the old formula. I get it. A time comes in everyone's life when they want to relax and coast for a while. But you can't do that in radio. So the format as we knew it (to quote the Rolling Stone article) is over.

As for the people there now, they seem to be taking the deconstructionalist approach. They're stripping the station back to the essentials. That doesn't mean they have a plan, because I don't think they do. In my view, they need to find a role for radio in the lives of their listeners. They don't know what that is yet. It's obviously not air personalities, since they seem to be removing them from their alternative stations. They also don't seem to have any answers from within, so they're bringing in people from iHeart such as Elliott. Maybe that's the start of something. But it's going to take a long time. If music is the core of the alternative format, perhaps its time to hire a musician. Get someone in house who doesn't care about advertising or imaging or anything the radio people care about. Hire someone who only cares about music. That's why I said the future for innovation is in non-commercial radio.
 
Maybe what I meant about the format aging out was that those who were the driving force behind its initial success are aging out. That would be Mr. Weatherly. While he did a lot of great things, for some reason everything seems to grind to a halt. All the creativity disappeared , and the station just recycled the old formula. I get it. A time comes in everyone's life when they want to relax and coast for a while. But you can't do that in radio. So the format as we knew it (to quote the Rolling Stone article) is over.

As for the people there now, they seem to be taking the deconstructionalist approach. They're stripping the station back to the essentials. That doesn't mean they have a plan, because I don't think they do. In my view, they need to find a role for radio in the lives of their listeners. They don't know what that is yet. It's obviously not air personalities, since they seem to be removing them from their alternative stations. They also don't seem to have any answers from within, so they're bringing in people from iHeart such as Elliott. Maybe that's the start of something. But it's going to take a long time. If music is the core of the alternative format, perhaps its time to hire a musician. Get someone in house who doesn't care about advertising or imaging or anything the radio people care about. Hire someone who only cares about music. That's why I said the future for innovation is in non-commercial radio.
Sorry, but SiriusXM is innovating far more than any non-com.
 
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