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Why do PDs jump on some singles but not others?

...there are many ways to peel an orange.... some PDs program by the numbers/audience research, only....others also take an artistic approach to the music and their audience. Sometimes you are trying to move your station to another position, or you're trying to out flank some competition station(s).... some programmers just set up the music schedule computer and run with the play list the computer makes, and others adjust the playlist with a human programmer... there is a difference...
 
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Doesn't Spotify charts make things more obvious?

Sure. Looking at the Spotify Top 200, Harry Styles has 6 songs in the Top 10, and Bad Bunny has the other 4.

Looking at today's Mediabase Top 40 airplay chart, Harry Style is #1. So yes, programmers look at streaming charts.
 
Most PD’s and MD’s decide on song additions based on recommendations from their consultants and/or research conducted. A handful of PD’s and MD’s may make decisions based on what they like or otherwise think will work, but “I have a golden ear” has destroyed far more careers than it has ever made.



In a lot of small markets, stations that aren’t part of a large conglomerate don’t have access to the consultants and research that larger companies and markets have. That’s both why small market stations can be more adventurous musically and why the usual response to small market radio stations is, “God, they suck!” I don’t know what AMI uses to determine its playlists. I know it hired the DeMarcos, who were involved in the old Great Empire Broadcasting, after it bought Petracom out of bankruptcy, but I don’t know much more than that. I worked for Zimmer a little more than 15 years ago, and Petracom wasn’t considered much of a threat. I can’t imagine Zimmer being too worried about Bicknell either. Is he even still around? He has to be about 100 now.


“Veronica,” which I’d always heard was a thinly veiled tribute to his grandmother and what she was going through in the late-80’s, was also a top-40 hit. I don’t think it got anywhere near the top-10, but it did crack the upper half of the top-40 in 1989.
In Joplin, there's also a my town media station which was kind of rock/alt, and their playlist was all over the place. It even played the uncensored version of little lion man by Mumford and sons I remember! I guess no one noticed (or listened for that matter.)
 
Many of Billy Joel's and Elton John's early singles stiffed, too. "Tiny Dancer" didn't even make the Top 40.

In both cases, their songs were getting played in multiple formats, even though they only charted in Top 40. Tiny Dancer may not have charted high in pop, but it was getting a lot of uncharted FM airplay from the album. Several cuts from the Madman album were getting FM airplay. Then a few weeks after the single was released, the label released "Honky Chateau and Rocket Man. Rocket Man was a bigger hit.
 
In both cases, their songs were getting played in multiple formats, even though they only charted in Top 40. Tiny Dancer may not have charted high in pop, but it was getting a lot of uncharted FM airplay from the album. Several cuts from the Madman album were getting FM airplay. Then a few weeks after the single was released, the label released "Honky Chateau and Rocket Man. Rocket Man was a bigger hit.
Do you mean "Honky Cat"?

"Rocket Man" and "Tiny Dancer" have been on America's Best Music, which I haven't listened to lately.
 
Most PD’s and MD’s decide on song additions based on recommendations from their consultants and/or research conducted. A handful of PD’s and MD’s may make decisions based on what they like or otherwise think will work, but “I have a golden ear” has destroyed far more careers than it has ever made.
There is no research for new songs. Even record labels have tried to find a way to determine what will be a hit in the manner by which consumer brands test new products or, even, product labels. Or the way movie producers test different edits of a new release to see which gets the best reviews.

Generally, a new music station will have more songs to choose from each week than slots to put them in. They will look at any available data on who else has added the song.

There are nowhere near the number of consultants active today that we had 30 to 40 years ago. Most of the larger groups have the equivalents of "format captains" and the is usually an internal music meeting. The download activity and the play on other stations and past results from the artist and, simply, the "feel" of the song are taken into account.
In a lot of small markets, stations that aren’t part of a large conglomerate don’t have access to the consultants and research that larger companies and markets have. That’s both why small market stations can be more adventurous musically and why the usual response to small market radio stations is, “God, they suck!”
Most small market stations looked at Hamilton and Gavin and R&R and watched stations they admired to help guide adds. Now it is BDS and MediaBase and the streaming playlists.

But still, a lot has to do with fit for the local market and the available places on the station list. .

I used to be an MD/PD. Have been out of the biz for decades. I can't believe stations are still evaluating what they add by number of slots they have available;
Formats since the 50's have had mechanics: categories and rotations based on the estimates of time spent listening.

Adding an extra song to a current category slows the whole category down... or requires adjusting the rotations of every other category. To insure proper horizontal and vertical rotations and other issues could take days of intense work... just to add a song rather than adjusting the categorization of other songs in a well tweaked and adjusted system in Selector or MusicMaster.
do I need the song; and where it is being added elsewhere (waiting to see who else adds it and waiting a week). Doesn't Spotify charts make things more obvious?
No, they do not. They don't tell us who is listening and whether they are our listeners or, even just our format's listeners. They don't accurately pinpoint the "who" of a song's listeners so matching them with our format is tenuous and can only be part of making a localized decision.
It's like giant market research.
No, it is not. "Research" is finding out what your listeners like and, particularly, dislike. A massive list from streamers does not tell us about our listeners and their preferences.
I think a PD/MD should just keep on top of new music and when there is something good, start playing it. Waiting to see what other stations do is based out of insecurity and lack of passion and creative flair.
There is no guarantee on any new song. We purposely minimize risk by trying to avoid too many new songs that might actually drive away listeners. On the other hand, the songs that "sound right" by core artists are almost automatic. Then we look at secondary artists, and then review the new artists.

Since traditional radio is "one for many" the main concern is fit and acceptance. We don't take too many chances each week. But the main issue is that we learn from research that listeners can't assimilate too many new records each week and the easiest new songs to add are by established artists.
It's a creative process. A good PD/MD doesn't need a record promoter to tell them what should be played and when to play it. The old system is antiquated in a spotify/pandora/youtube/online world with endless options. Programming is an art form. Doesn't seem like too many programmers are artists.
Programming is part art form and part mechanics. The mechanics is based on understanding how radio audience is measured and trying to play the right songs at the right frequency and in the right blend; radio is not an "on demand" service so we program as much for the set, the sweep, the hour, the overall sound as we do for the individual song.

And, of course in radio we do not need record promoters. The record companies need them to try to get their song played instead of the one from a different label. Working with record promoters often yields benefits, though, in areas like artist based promotions, show tickets, interviews, etc.
 
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I would look at Spotfy charts and not wait to see what stations in other markets do with a song. I see radio is still stuck in the old Tuesday adds/slots available mode. It's so sad.
Almost all new music is released on Fridays now. So stations already have scheduled lots through Monday... and unless they are waiting for a "bombshell" release from a top artist, they can't easily add a song until... well, Tuesday.

And we are a long way from format clocks with colored sticky dots and racks with the carts for each category. Music logs are designed with horizontal and vertical rotations and, unless there is a new release that is so astounding that it has to be added instantly, we follow our structure. The benefits of making sure that the station structure is as good as possible far outweighs getting a song on the air 24 hours sooner.

Oh, and usually what we'd do with a supersong by a superstar release is edit logs for a few days manually and put that song in, replacing a recurrent or gold by the same artist, at whatever interval we wanted to expose the song at.
 
.... some programmers just set up the music schedule computer and run with the play list the computer makes, and others adjust the playlist with a human programmer... there is a difference...
No good programmer just takes the Selector of MusicMaster log and loads it into the system. We all edit, move a few songs around in sets to get better flow, make substitutions and fill in "unscheduled" slots by hand.
 
I checked the charts. Looks like the ava max track is gaining traction albeit a little bit. The stations that actually do play it relegate it to nights/overnights, and it's 28 on the pop charts now. That's more than say Tove los new single which gets zero airplay.
 
I checked the charts. Looks like the ava max track is gaining traction albeit a little bit. The stations that actually do play it relegate it to nights/overnights, and it's 28 on the pop charts now.

As I said, EDM is way off from the mainstream now, and is best suited for nights or weekends.
 
you tell 'em Dave!
The keyword here is "good" as many PDs don't spend nearly enough time making sure that every sweep and set have the right "station feel". I know it is mechanical, but so is the average listener's daily routine.
 
This may be a separate topic, but this is an interesting article. TikTok has changed how people use music:


Two things I'm amazed by is how people use TikTok to interact with music, and secondly how dirty the music is. A lot of what I hear on TikTok would never get airplay on the radio.

Having said that, it's likely that TikTok may become more important than Spotify, and that Spotify may be looking for ways to make it's platform more interactive.
 
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