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Cleveland Radio Jan 23 Ratings

Numbers for The Wave JenY 107.3 don't look very good. I know iHeart doesn't care about ratings, but maybe Rubber City Radio does.
 
Numbers for The Wave JenY 107.3 don't look very good. I know iHeart doesn't care about ratings, but maybe Rubber City Radio does.
iHeart certainly cares about ratings. Why would you think otherwise? Agency business, whether traditional buys of transactional computer-based ones, all depend on ratings to determine CPP and to approve a buy or not.
 
iHeart certainly cares about ratings. Why would you think otherwise? Agency business, whether traditional buys of transactional computer-based ones, all depend on ratings to determine CPP and to approve a buy or not.
Well, that is what I heard. WAKS always ranks low, but iHeart doesn't seem to be worried about them.
 
Well, that is what I heard. WAKS always ranks low, but iHeart doesn't seem to be worried about them.
WAKS is an Akron rimshot FM trying to server the Cleveland market without total market coverage. It could not conceivably rank any higher due to its deficiencies. So they keep marketing it for Cleveland it and do whatever with it might produce some incremental revenue for the cluster.

But of recent they have not even subscribed to the Cleveland book. Just Akron and Canton. And in that market, considered alone, they take a full 25% of market radio revenues.

And here, "cluster" is the keyword. When added into a package of multiple stations, it can be sold successfully. But if you look at it alone, it is sort of a "dog". in Cleveland. Yet in a cluster, it works enough to be worth keeping; it's tiny ratings do add
 
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Um.... How can WMJI be #1 when all they play are the same 40 songs (sometimes edits of radio edits) every month and 10 minutes of the same commercials at every break?

WHLK #3? Compared to WMJI, they are 80% similar. Perhaps there's some listener confusion going on here?
 
Um.... How can WMJI be #1 when all they play are the same 40 songs (sometimes edits of radio edits) every month and 10 minutes of the same commercials at every break?
Ever since Top 40 (what a magazine decided to rename CHR) was developed around 1951, one of radio's most successful formats has been based on playing the same few hit songs over and over, reducing the play or eliminating songs altogether when they started to fade.

WMJI plays the songs that were hits in the later 70's and 80's but that still have strong appeal. They have over 600 of those "favorites" from that era that they play so that the average listener hears each song, maybe, once every week to 10 days or more.
WHLK #3? Compared to WMJI, they are 80% similar. Perhaps there's some listener confusion going on here?
Cleveland is a PPM market. There is no confusion. All the PPM participant has to remember is to carry the meter around with them every day.
 
Young people under 30 don't listen to terrestrial radio for music. Period. 107.3 is kidding themselves with an alt format. Most terrestrial alt formats failed all over the country for the same reason. Also, WAKS broadcasts from the same tower as WZAK, so Cleveland signal is really not a question. The fact, again, is that young people under 30 don't listen to terrestrial radio for music. The only exception is an Urban hits format like WENZ.
 
Also, the Cleveland/NE Ohio area has suffered from "brain drain" over the last several decades, so I'm guessing the potential listening audience is a bit older on average than a lot of other cities.
 
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Young people under 30 don't listen to terrestrial radio for music. Period. The fact, again, is that young people under 30 don't listen to terrestrial radio for music.
Being almost in my mid 30's, I have mostly listened to terrestrial radio since I've been able to operate a radio. The problem is that many areas have no variety anymore when it comes to music formats, all of which mostly sound the same and compete with each other for listeners, chasing listeners away to other sources as they can't find a format that works for them. Such formats, even ones that could be successful and could possibly bring in advertising dollars, are usually found elsewhere, like streaming services and Sirius XM, or are limited to a HD Radio sub that hardly anyone is aware of. Pile on the awful nothing but noise and constantly in pain pop music that has been in existence for over the last decade (which I never listened to) and you can see why radio is the way it is today.
 
As I keep saying, there needs to be a metamorphosis with pop music. It's been the same old crap for way too long.
 
Ever since Top 40 (what a magazine decided to rename CHR) was developed around 1951, one of radio's most successful formats has been based on playing the same few hit songs over and over, reducing the play or eliminating songs altogether when they started to fade.

WMJI plays the songs that were hits in the later 70's and 80's but that still have strong appeal. They have over 600 of those "favorites" from that era that they play so that the average listener hears each song, maybe, once every week to 10 days or more.

Cleveland is a PPM market. There is no confusion. All the PPM participant has to remember is to carry the meter around with them every day.


"They have over 600 of those "favorites" from that era that they play so that the average listener hears each song, maybe, once every week to 10 days or more." ................ Not so sure about that. I recall when John Gorman and later Denny Sanders ran WMJI in the 1990s, the playlist seemed a lot bigger. Plus, I recall that they would toss in some musical surprises here and there. Of course, both of those guys were seasoned programmers from their days at WMMS (plus they both were music aficionados). Even though the era that WMJI covers now has slid up in the years, with all the hit music out there from the 70s, 80s and 90s, I don't understand why I have to hear "Big Shot" by Billy Joel just about every day. Now, I can understand a CHR which plays current hits to have a limited playlist....the stuff is new and fresh and will soon be replaced by other new and fresh songs.....but a library station which covers roughly 25 years?
 
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And during the Gorman/Sanders era, on Satuday night people could call in, talk to a live DJ and make a request.
 
WMJI was "live" around the clock in those days as I recall, until iHeart (Clear Channel) took it over. One of the attractions of radio to me (as a chronic insomniac) was switching on the station and hearing a live jock in the middle of the night with a weather update and maybe a little information about the results of a west coast Indians game. All gone now.
 
As soon as Clear Channel took over WMJI in the late 90's, that was when the limited and repetitive music selection became apparent.
 
Young people under 30 don't listen to terrestrial radio for music.
Wrong. Over 80% do use terrestrial radio, but they do use it for fewer hours than they did a decade ago.
107.3 is kidding themselves with an alt format. Most terrestrial alt formats failed all over the country for the same reason.
They failed because alt, mostly a 25-44 or even 30-50 format that is male driven has fragmented into three or more sub-groups that only share passion for a few songs. Ample music testing has shown this to be a fact, and that is why the more successful stations (which are few) depend mostly on library cuts.
Also, WAKS broadcasts from the same tower as WZAK, so Cleveland signal is really not a question. The fact, again, is that young people under 30 don't listen to terrestrial radio for music. The only exception is an Urban hits format like WENZ.
Again, if you look at 18-34 PUR in every market, you see that this statement is not true.
 
And during the Gorman/Sanders era, on Satuday night people could call in, talk to a live DJ and make a request.
Saturday night is a throw-away, so you can do anything you like and it won't move the needle at all. Minuscule PUR (Persons Using Radio) and nearly un-salable.
 
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