In the Los Angeles Market needs to start searching for a brand-new The CW West Coast Flagship Station

[vchimpanzee]

They occasionally have some fun scripted shows and a few other things. If nothing else, they do have quite a few hours a week of original shows and they contribute to the variety of new productions in that area. Also, without them there would be hundreds of vampires and superheroes out of work.

Unless I am mistaken all the vampire shows have been cancelled.

They do air two hours of magic a week.

 

[DarrenVision]

Above all else, it’s content for stations that would otherwise have next to nothing else to run in primetime, especially with the decline of syndicated programming in the industry. Very few stations are capable of running local news in primetime unless you are in a large market and have the resources (KCAL, WHDH, WJXT, KRON and KTVK are the most prominent of examples).

I don’t see what good it would do for KTLA, which now effectively operates as the CW’s West Coast flagship, to drop the network and competing against KCAL in the arena of primetime local news, which KCAL has thrived in since day one in 1990.

KRON affiliates with MNTV late at night but we know if Nexstar makes a move for CW in both Chicago and SF Bay Area, KBCW might fill the void in the 8-10pm slot using KCAL's own primetime news block. Also KTVK's news operation is now merged with CBS's KPHO as Arizona's Family although KTVK gets the most popular syndies like ET, Wheel, and Jep

 

[davideduardo]

Unless I am mistaken all the vampire shows have been cancelled.

Hint: humor does not always conform to reality.

They do air two hours of magic a week.

And?

 

[vchimpanzee]

And?

Although most of that is reruns. Some weeks there is more.

 

[Cool_guy81]

They might be able to start a Sunday Morning newsmagazine on The CW but's doubtful they'll be able to compete in the evening news arena as those affiliates who have one would rather stay local rather than go to the network at 6:30/5:30

When the CW first launched combining WB and UPN they had a show called CW Now I'm not sure what kind of stuff they showed but the series didn't last long before they changed their lineup. Most of the new shows didn't last that first year of The CW.

 

[Ccook55]

And with all the uncertainty the lawsuits involving Fox News, on ehas to wonder how long it'll be before entities like MLB, NASCAR & the NFL start to revisit their relationship with Fox & start approaching The CW about the rights packages Fox currently has with them once those come up for renewal

Baseball, football and NASCAR are gravy for Fox. They're not going anywhere regardless of the news department issues.

 

[Mr Tony]

And with all the uncertainty the lawsuits involving Fox News, on ehas to wonder how long it'll be before entities like MLB, NASCAR & the NFL start to revisit their relationship with Fox & start approaching The CW about the rights packages Fox currently has with them once those come up for renewal

NFL deal runs through 2033
MLB deal runs through 2028
NASCAR runs through 2024

 

[DarrenVision]

Baseball, football and NASCAR are gravy for Fox. They're not going anywhere regardless of the news department issues.

Fox News Edge provides the supply of their national news stories if not politically charged compare to the channel itself. Consider how Bostonians view WFXT regards of the split between the Fox studio now owned by ABC parent Disney and the smaller Fox Corp. finding out how to fill their primetime schedule.

 

[Y2kTheNewOldies]

And with all the uncertainty the lawsuits involving Fox News, one has to wonder how long it'll be before entities like MLB, NASCAR & the NFL start to revisit their relationship with Fox & start approaching The CW about the rights packages Fox currently has with them once those come up for renewal

That would require CW to get new affiliates in Sacramento, Detroit, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Chicago and Pittsburgh if CW is really serious about signing more sports contracts like NFL, MLB and NASCAR. It would have to be as big as the 1994-1995 deal when New World merged with Fox and converted former CBS affiliates WJW, WAGA, KTSP/KSAZ, KDFW, WITI, KTBC and one former ABC affiliate KTVI into Fox O&O's, and affiliates.

In this case stations like KMAX, WKBD, KBCW, WPCW, WPSG, would go against Sports Broadcasting contracts with the CW because of the CBS Sports contract and they are extensions of the main CBS O&O in those cities.

Sacramento CW would have to be on KTXL-TV 40.2 because 40.1 is a Fox Affiliate owned by Nexstar.
San Francisco KRON-TV gets the CW affiliates because of Nexstar having majority ownership of the CW.
Philadelphia WPHL-TV gets the CW for the same reasons like KRON San Francisco.
Chicago WGN-TV Same reason related to KRON, and WPHL-TV
Detroit WADL-TV? Note I was going to pick WMYD until I read about Scripps considering to get a Sports Broadcasting contract.
Pittsburgh WPNT (Sinclair owned My Network affiliate)

 

[DarrenVision]

That would require CW to get new affiliates in Sacramento, Detroit, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Chicago and Pittsburgh if CW is really serious about signing more sports contracts like NFL, MLB and NASCAR. It would have to be as big as the 1994-1995 deal when New World merged with Fox and converted former CBS affiliates WJW, WAGA, KTSP/KSAZ, KDFW, WITI, KTBC and one former ABC affiliate KTVI into Fox O&O's, and affiliates.

In this case stations like KMAX, WKBD, KBCW, WPCW, WPSG, would go against Sports Broadcasting contracts with the CW because of the CBS Sports contract and they are extensions of the main CBS O&O in those cities.

Sacramento CW would have to be on KTXL-TV 40.2 because 40.1 is a Fox Affiliate owned by Nexstar.
San Francisco KRON-TV gets the CW affiliates because of Nexstar having majority ownership of the CW.
Philadelphia WPHL-TV gets the CW for the same reasons like KRON San Francisco.
Chicago WGN-TV Same reason related to KRON, and WPHL-TV
Detroit WADL-TV? Note I was going to pick WMYD until I read about Scripps considering to get a Sports Broadcasting contract.
Pittsburgh WPNT (Sinclair owned My Network affiliate)

WADL should be bought up by Fox as does WUPA and WTOG (in case of the latter moving CW to WTTA). Fox might buy some Nexstar and/or Sinclair affiliates much like the failed Sinclair-Tribune merger and give Nexstar more room to buy WPIX and some more markets.

 

[Ccook55]

WAGA Atlanta is among Fox's strongest stations. Why in the name of rational thought would they go to WUPA?

 

[DarrenVision]

WAGA Atlanta is among Fox's strongest stations. Why in the name of rational thought would they go to WUPA?

Creating a duopoly and switching WUPA to MNTV from WATL. Either WATL or WPCH pick up CW at some point.

 

[Ccook55]

Also a non-starter. As a CW station CBS owns, WUPA does quite well. No way CBS is giving up on that.

 

[DarrenVision]

Also a non-starter. As a CW station CBS owns, WUPA does quite well. No way CBS is giving up on that.

Paramount owns 12.5 percent of the network and Gray isn't giving up on WANF as their official flagship station in terms of having 4 10pm newscasts. Besides without a CBS duopoly how much people watch Atlanta News Now at 10pm than WATL, WPCH, or market leading WAGA.

 

[Y2kTheNewOldies]

Also a non-starter. As a CW station CBS owns, WUPA does quite well. No way CBS is giving up on that.

True too! But when CW signs sports contracts that goes against CBS Sports then Nexstar has the final say on who gets the CW affiliation.


I got more examples to consider. For Tampa that would mean WTOG would lose their CW affiliation and WTTA gets the CW affiliation because of Nexstar.


WTOG - Wikipedia

WTTA - Wikipedia

KSTW?? No clue where this is going given that there is no Nexstar Station in the Seattle area and the arguments have holes with that.

KSTW - Wikipedia

WUPA too given that one can consider WPCH or WATL getting the CW affiliation but not likely for now. Mission Broadcasting? Or White Knight Broadcasting? Or another party all together.

White Knight Broadcasting - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Mission Broadcasting - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Ccook55]

CBS isn't clamoring for a duopoly in Atlanta, although it was noted in 1994 when WAGA jumped ship to Fox, CBS wanted to buy ch. 46 (them WGNX) and move it to channel 6. That was negated as two adjoining markets--Birmingham and Augusta--already had a channel 6.

Nexstar has the last word on who gets CW affiliation, but not on who owns stations they don't already own.

 

[DarrenVision]

CBS isn't clamoring for a duopoly in Atlanta, although it was noted in 1994 when WAGA jumped ship to Fox, CBS wanted to buy ch. 46 (them WGNX) and move it to channel 6. That was negated as two adjoining markets--Birmingham and Augusta--already had a channel 6.

Tegna and Gray aren't going away because they have their own duops, The only choices for WUPA to be sold off either WAGA owner Fox or WSB owner Apollo-Cox. WSB might put more room for their news if Apollo-Cox bought WUPA.

 

[DarrenVision]

True too! But when CW signs sports contracts that goes against CBS Sports then Nexstar has the final say on who gets the CW affiliation.


I got more examples to consider. For Tampa that would mean WTOG would lose their CW affiliation and WTTA gets the CW affiliation because of Nexstar.


WTOG - Wikipedia

WTTA - Wikipedia

KSTW?? No clue where this is going given that there is no Nexstar Station in the Seattle area and the arguments have holes with that.

KSTW - Wikipedia

WUPA too given that one can consider WPCH or WATL getting the CW affiliation but not likely for now. Mission Broadcasting? Or White Knight Broadcasting? Or another party all together.

White Knight Broadcasting - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Mission Broadcasting - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Paramount might still hold an interest in CW for now but I could imagine Paramount buys KIRO 7 from Apollo-Cox and rebrand the news operation as CBS News Seattle

 

[Ccook55]

Again, CBS isn't going to cut bait with WUPA. Apollo/Cox and Fox isn't exactly whetting their appetite for WUPA, either.

 

[Y2kTheNewOldies]

CBS isn't clamoring for a duopoly in Atlanta, although it was noted in 1994 when WAGA jumped ship to Fox, CBS wanted to buy ch. 46 (them WGNX) and move it to channel 6. That was negated as two adjoining markets--Birmingham and Augusta--already had a channel 6.

Nexstar has the last word on who gets CW affiliation, but not on who owns stations they don't already own.

Agreed on all points and its centered on Paramount owned CW affiliates having to comply with the CBS Sports contract thats preventing from airing sports from the CW.

Also in cities where the CW affiliate is tied to the main CBS O&O like KBCW San Francisco and KMAX Sacramento they would also have to air sports programming by CBS Sports in the event the main CBS O&O like KPIX and KOVR have to pre-empt CBS Sports programming for breaking news reasons.

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