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KITS 105.3 Stunting... Return of Live 105?

An interesting article with a look behind the scenes at how Live 105 was resurrected.

That's a great article. It's refreshing to see intelligent reporting on the subject of the radio business.

From the story:
“There’s an expectation here, I think, to be a little bit different,” Kauffman said of the San Francisco market and how Alt 105.3 fit within it. “The standardization didn’t work here.”

But honestly, does the standardization really work anywhere? Cookie-cutter radio exactly what everyone always complains about.

It's not just San Francisco that's so unique. Name any market, there are plenty of things that make it unique. When you drop in a voicetracked DJ from out-of-town over a generic, corporate playlist, people can tell. Radio execs don't give their audience enough credit to be able to understand this, or more likely they just don't care.

From the quoted tweet in the story:
Live 105 is back! I literally stopped listening to the radio when they left. #live105

This is exactly how I feel since K-Rock/Alt 92.3 left NYC, where I live. Enough with the excuses about why the biggest city in the nation can't support an alternative rock station. That pompous attitude is why so many people say radio sucks.
 
But honestly, does the standardization really work anywhere? Cookie-cutter radio exactly what everyone always complains about.

There's a big gap between being "a little bit different" and "standardization." When you look at the music, it's fitting into a familiar template. That's why it's called a format. They may be playing a few more currents than KROQ, but the percentages are about the same. I really think the station hasn't really had a chance to demonstrate uniqueness, because there still is no air staff.

To answer you question, standardization works in a lot of places, and iHeart has managed to find ways to combine elements in ways that get good ratings.
 
There's a big gap between being "a little bit different" and "standardization." When you look at the music, it's fitting into a familiar template. That's why it's called a format. They may be playing a few more currents than KROQ, but the percentages are about the same. I really think the station hasn't really had a chance to demonstrate uniqueness, because there still is no air staff.

The template and format may be familiar but there's no doubt it's tailored to San Francisco based on the music research they did in the Bay Area prior to relaunching it. It's not piped in from...Dallas. (I was going to say New York but that would be too darkly ironic).

The point is it's local, and it appears the talent will reflect that too, making it an actual good radio station -- increasingly a rarity these days.
 
The point is it's local, and it appears the talent will reflect that too, making it an actual good radio station -- increasingly a rarity these days.

As I said earlier, John Allers has relocated to San Francisco, but articles say he will use some talent from LA. So far, they're still there.

For example, Miles The DJ formerly worked at Live 105, is now MD at KROQ.
 
No Doubt plays on most Alternative stations… it’s wierd of KITS never plays them. KITS does play alternative from the 80s and 90s with a few 70s titles I think.
 
No Doubt plays on most Alternative stations… it’s wierd of KITS never plays them. KITS does play alternative from the 80s and 90s with a few 70s titles I think.

As I said earlier, the oldest I saw was the Ramones from 1976.

Just A Girl charted higher as a rock and alternative song than as a pop song.
 
XETRA-FM 91X San Diego decided to concentrate mostly on Classic Alternative and found better ratings not competing head on with iHeart's current-based KYSR.
I think you meant to say XETRA is trying to provide an alternative to San Diego competitor KBZT. KYSR is in Los Angeles
 
It's not just San Francisco that's so unique. Name any market, there are plenty of things that make it unique. When you drop in a voicetracked DJ from out-of-town over a generic, corporate playlist, people can tell. Radio execs don't give their audience enough credit to be able to understand this, or more likely they just don't care.
And then they wonder why streaming services are taking over....

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It's not just San Francisco that's so unique. Name any market, there are plenty of things that make it unique. When you drop in a voicetracked DJ from out-of-town over a generic, corporate playlist, people can tell. Radio execs don't give their audience enough credit to be able to understand this, or more likely they just don't care.

Name all the local DJs at Spotify, Apple Music, or SiriusXM. Name the localized music streams at Spotify, Apple Music, or SiriusXM,

Somehow all of these digital music services have been able to do well with voicetracked DJs from out of town.
 
Name all the local DJs at Spotify, Apple Music, or SiriusXM. Name the localized music streams at Spotify, Apple Music, or SiriusXM,

Somehow all of these digital music services have been able to do well with voicetracked DJs from out of town.
It’s localized because it’s selected by the person, that’s why they’re doing well. SiriusXM is the only one I believe you can use this example for, and they’re not exactly on fire either, with their subscriber growth slowing and their heavy reliance on paid promotional subs.

You are speaking about people who don’t care much about DJs and/or want to avoid ads while also picking their own songs. Or even people who simply want their own playlist.

Radio is great and I will defend it as it is faltering, because it’s exaggerated how much it’s failing even if it is losing its “glory”.

But you’re talking about separate audiences. It’s like people who want chocolate ice cream over vanilla. The presence some have over music being chosen vs choosing themselves, and the pros and cons of FM Radio.
 
As I said earlier, John Allers has relocated to San Francisco, but articles say he will use some talent from LA. So far, they're still there.

For example, Miles The DJ formerly worked at Live 105, is now MD at KROQ.
Everything will get clearer once they get an idea on their talent lineup. Based on who they have in their company, I dont have high hopes but maybe I will be surprised. It does sound mostly down the middle from what I can hear. Also, I was told he hasn’t relocated and most of the Audacy programmers live outside of their respective markets these days.
 
It’s localized because it’s selected by the person, that’s why they’re doing well.

That's not localized, that's personalized. Two very different things. Radio by definition is a mass medium that can't be personalized.

You are speaking about people who don’t care much about DJs and/or want to avoid ads while also picking their own songs.

If that's what people want, then it doesn't matter how local the DJs are, they won't be happy. Radio is not a free music distribution system.
 
I know we're 19 pages into this thread. But do we have a breakdown of whether we can call the new Live 105 a Classic Alternative station that also plays some current and recent titles? Or is it a current alternative station that's willing to go back 25 or more years for some Classic Alternative titles?

XETRA-FM 91X San Diego decided to concentrate mostly on Classic Alternative and found better ratings not competing head on with iHeart's current-based KYSR. Salt Lake City has an all-Classic Alternative station, 103.1 KLO-FM. It also avoids competing directly with current-based KXRK 96.3.

Is KITS trying to straddle current-based and classic alternative at the same time? Can one station please both audiences?
Not to mention as someone who's listened in since the new direction in 2022 91X has played hundreds more new songs than any of the audacy/iheart stations combined.
That cliche phrase is used on most or all of the company's alternative stations before a recently added song plays.

How about more "discovery" of hidden gems from the 90s? That's what I'd like to see.
That would be cool but also "discovery" of more new music because Audacy barely adds any to begin with compared to the independent stations.
 
Not to mention as someone who's listened in since the new direction in 2022 91X has played hundreds more new songs than any of the audacy/iheart stations combined.
And they are now down to 18th in 25-54, the worst book all year. The Audacy station has moved up four rank positions so far this year.
That would be cool but also "discovery" of more new music because Audacy barely adds any to begin with compared to the independent stations.
And both "XTRA" and KBZT are tied around 17th in revenue with AM sports KGB.
 
And they are now down to 18th in 25-54, the worst book all year. The Audacy station has moved up four rank positions so far this year.

And both "XTRA" and KBZT are tied around 17th in revenue with AM sports KGB.
Feels a bit cherry picked of a demographic though, any 40+ year old you find is probably not listening to new rock music.
 
And they are now down to 18th in 25-54, the worst book all year. The Audacy station has moved up four rank positions so far this year.
yes because many san diegans I know online are bored with turning on a beloved station and all they hear is THAT same soundgarden/billy idol song and are unaware of the new music.

that's why I've been annoying them to rotate it more again.
 
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