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106.7 Lite FM 2023 Christmas Music Wishlist
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I hope it's appropriate for a B&R Ex-NYCer here (SE Queens, near JFK Int'l) to post some then-and-now reactions.
Never spent much time at all listening to WLTW from the start. Can't imagine in the first place being at a cookout or a pool party where the speakers were blasting something called 'Lite FM' for a celeratory throng getting blitzed on liquor and food.
I *did* work, every shift at one time or another, at the similar Eazy 101 in Philly, but before they started in glomming that market's 24/7 Yuletide monopoly.
Tradition, worship and reaction here at the house are evident only on the fake white tree with all blue lights and decorations, and on the kitchen can opener/radio that came with the house, tuned to 860 all year 'round, and turned on only to hear CJBC's Christmas Eve fare. It seems only fitting, as the wifester and I are both of some ancestral French distraction (me two types, her just one) and neither of us speak any Gaelic anyway. And she and I are of VASTLY different religions -- Lutheran and Catholic, lol, sarcasm, so we go to what she used to complain was 'any old church you see with lights on!' around midnight on 12/24. We've been to service/Mass and heard Polish, English and what sounded like Russian. Same ceremonies. That unison is sufficient good will and tidings to get us through.
So in effect, I'm completely apathetic to the whole temporarily greedy conglomerate music scene and whatever 'adds' or 'eras' get chosen for the interminably overloaded din. What's more, I don't care.
Never spent much time at all listening to WLTW from the start. Can't imagine in the first place being at a cookout or a pool party where the speakers were blasting something called 'Lite FM' for a celeratory throng getting blitzed on liquor and food.
I *did* work, every shift at one time or another, at the similar Eazy 101 in Philly, but before they started in glomming that market's 24/7 Yuletide monopoly.
Tradition, worship and reaction here at the house are evident only on the fake white tree with all blue lights and decorations, and on the kitchen can opener/radio that came with the house, tuned to 860 all year 'round, and turned on only to hear CJBC's Christmas Eve fare. It seems only fitting, as the wifester and I are both of some ancestral French distraction (me two types, her just one) and neither of us speak any Gaelic anyway. And she and I are of VASTLY different religions -- Lutheran and Catholic, lol, sarcasm, so we go to what she used to complain was 'any old church you see with lights on!' around midnight on 12/24. We've been to service/Mass and heard Polish, English and what sounded like Russian. Same ceremonies. That unison is sufficient good will and tidings to get us through.
So in effect, I'm completely apathetic to the whole temporarily greedy conglomerate music scene and whatever 'adds' or 'eras' get chosen for the interminably overloaded din. What's more, I don't care.
I'm sure that the Christmas stations of the UK's Heart and the Netherlands' Sky Radio continue to play Christmas music on Halloween.
My bad but there should be some more focus on Chanukah songs. It should be holiday music and one is hard pressed to hear a Chanukah song. I’m sure I’m not the only Jewish listener of WLTW 😎.
There are some others. They are hard to find but they are there
Not to mention that Hanukkah and Christmas are not comparable holidays. Christmas is either the most or second-most (behind Easter) important holiday in Christianity. Hanukkah is, at best, fourth behind Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashanah and Passover. Its reputation as the "Jewish Christmas" is largely due to envy by Jewish children of their Christian friends' annual holiday haul and the resulting accommodation by their parents.
But given the holidays happen at similar times of the year why can’t they call it holiday music. It is not fair for Jewish people like myself that want some of our music to also be represented. Shouldn’t there be some parity? I’m not making this a religious debate but I feel a bit offended that the stations (WLTW, WKJY and WALK) all do the same.
There is a decent Jewish population in Market 1 and there should be more representation. I don’t want to make it a debate but those of us who feel this way should contact those stations and request more Chanukah songs to be played.
Chanukah is not Jewish Christmas. It commemorates that the single day of oil in the temple lasted 8 days
Couple of notes here on the issue:
Did Sandler ever get around to updating his song's lyrics to something like 'Bill and Hillary weren't Jewish, but we'll always have Monica' ? ......
Each year here there is a tree and a menorah in the front window. It's a holdover from the Long Island days. I believe I was at more Jewish-Italian / Italian-Jewish weddings and receptions out there than same-faith nuptials. Really.
Lol -- I've always enjoyed telling people things like 'I'm not Jewish, but many of my best friends aren't my religion, either.'
Happy early Holiday Wishes to all !
Did Sandler ever get around to updating his song's lyrics to something like 'Bill and Hillary weren't Jewish, but we'll always have Monica' ? ......
Each year here there is a tree and a menorah in the front window. It's a holdover from the Long Island days. I believe I was at more Jewish-Italian / Italian-Jewish weddings and receptions out there than same-faith nuptials. Really.
Lol -- I've always enjoyed telling people things like 'I'm not Jewish, but many of my best friends aren't my religion, either.'
Happy early Holiday Wishes to all !
As a largely non-observant Jew (I'm in it mainly for the food and the jokes.), I don't care if Adam Sandler or whoever else might be doing Hanukkah music ever gets played on my local AC station. We're only 2 percent of the U.S. population. Not only that, In less than 20 years, according to statistical studies, there are going to be more Muslims than Jews in this country. Eid music, anyone? Let the majority have its way on this. Nobody's getting proselytized by Burl Ives or Nat King Cole, after all.
I generally don't listen to AC anyway, so very little of the pop holiday/seasonal music ever reaches my ears. I do enjoy classical Christmas music and traditional carols sung by choirs very much, regardless of message, and you will find me with SiriusXM's Holiday Pops channel streaming as background music at home fairly often during December. Hark, Joy to the World, Adeste Fideles, The First Noel, Handel's Messiah .... all wonderful pieces of music that beat the living schmaltz out of The Dreidl Song every day of the week and twice on Saturday. Hanukkah music on FM ... bah humbug.
I don't know whether to laugh or admire this post, as it's a welcome change from the usual yes/no Christmas music discussions, usually participated by men who a) won't listen anyway and b) men who don't listen to the station that goes "all Christmas" during the rest of the year anyway.
So, my emoticons are
and . We have been advised not to discuss songs, our opinion of songs, or what songs we do or don't want to listen to on OTA radio or streaming radio.
We have been told: If a station is playing a certain song, then it has been tested on the audience by an auditorium music test, to which the potential listeners responded favorably. So, if the station is playing the same 10 Christmas songs, it is because those are the songs that the listeners indicated that they wanted to hear. So, our opinion of a song doesn't matter ( especially if we are over 45 years old), because programming is quantitatively and scientifically determined by statistics.
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In North America, December holidays are traditionally built around the season of winter and the idea of cozy home gatherings. Since the traditional role of women have been as homemakers, assigned to make the home a pleasant and cozy place to be, then the task of preparing the home for social gatherings, buying decorations, hanging decorations, buying gifts, wrapping gifts, buying and preparing special foods, planning menus, sending Christmas cards, issuing invitations for home gatherings, organizing church activities, volunteering for church services, doing outreach services for needy people, helping with children's parties and activities at school, etc. etc., all fall to women. ( Yes, men to help to hang lights and install roof decorations).
But the traditional work of preparing a family home for the holidays -- and this includes, Christmas, Chanukah, Festivus, and Kwanzaa, is assigned to women. All these holidays encompass gathering in a warm home to celebrate togtherness of friends and family. Because women spend more time working on holiday preparations, they may tune in more to all-Christmas radio stations while they are getting ready, or shopping online, or baking, or decorating, or any one of hundreds of tasks required/ expected of women in North America to prepare a family for the holidays.
I understand why Latin America does not do this, and David has explained this very well.
It's not that only women have hopelessly awful, despicable taste in music which is mawkishly sentimental, tear-jerking crap, or maudlin emotionally-wrought taste in Hallmark channel Christmas movies which are absolute bull****. I don't think that is the reason. I think it is the social pressure that they are judged by whether or not they can produce a spectacular holiday experience and live up to the expectations of North American society. JMO -- Daryl
But the traditional work of preparing a family home for the holidays -- and this includes, Christmas, Chanukah, Festivus, and Kwanzaa, is assigned to women. All these holidays encompass gathering in a warm home to celebrate togtherness of friends and family. Because women spend more time working on holiday preparations, they may tune in more to all-Christmas radio stations while they are getting ready, or shopping online, or baking, or decorating, or any one of hundreds of tasks required/ expected of women in North America to prepare a family for the holidays.
I understand why Latin America does not do this, and David has explained this very well.
It's not that only women have hopelessly awful, despicable taste in music which is mawkishly sentimental, tear-jerking crap, or maudlin emotionally-wrought taste in Hallmark channel Christmas movies which are absolute bull****. I don't think that is the reason. I think it is the social pressure that they are judged by whether or not they can produce a spectacular holiday experience and live up to the expectations of North American society. JMO -- Daryl
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Generally, the target for AC stations that do "All Christmas" is Women 25-54, with the core being 35-54.
It's OK to talk about songs, but just know that the libraries for Christmas play have been researched multiple times. Songs that get played are like or loved by everyone. Songs that have defects below a certain level (think of those that pass getting an A, B or C in school) do not get played (if you were boss, would you hire a computer programmer that got a D or F in their computing classes?).
On the other hand, the number of songs being played is several hundred and there are no more because no more test well. Again, would you expect stations to play songs a portion of their target audience does not like?
At the risk of being didactic: remember, Mexico is part of North America. So what you really mean is the US and Canada.
That is a good observation. And it fits with the core of most stations that do the Christmas music marathon... AC stations that target those same women all year long.
¡Muchas gracias!
I know a lot of women in my family who love the Great American Family and who used to like Hallmark until they got "woke" and forgot that the largest minority group in America is Hispanic. What they like is that the stories, as artificial and corny as they are, reflect family values that are deep in the Latin American tradition. For the same reason, so many Hispanics, as they become part of America, love Thanksgiving which is also a celebration of the "Great American Family".... and why they don't celebrate the "Drink-o de Mayo" which is everything but a family occasion.
You're not being didactic, and your point is very well taken ! I mean the US and Canada, as Mexico is indeed part of North America.
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