KHCB moving K218EJ

[Mediafrog+]

Here’s a translator we can still talk about, with a new owner that plays by the rules.

KHCB has applied to move K218EJ (currently licensed on 91.5) to 89.7, from a tower SW of the intersection of Loop 610 and Highway 288. Power is 99 watts at 170 meters HAAT with the signal suppressed towards co-channel KACC. This will fill in the central part of metro Houston for KHCB’s Spanish language service.

Scroll down for attachments that include signal coverage: https://enterpriseefiling.fcc.gov/d...&id=25076f9187ba75ea0187be7634fa0031&goBack=N

KACC can be heard in the car as far north as I-10, but north of South Loop 610 it is a fringe signal, likely with no listeners outside of hard core radio geeks, so from a practical standpoint they are not losing any audience with the launch of the modified translator. Any word on the future of KACC? There was chatter a couple of years ago that Alvin Communtiy College would either sell it or shut it down.

 

[radioislife2020]

Expect something to happen with 101.5 soon!

 

[Mediafrog+]

Expect something to happen with 101.5 soon!

I don’t know why there would be any change on K268CW. Serves a different area from the proposed 89.7 signal.

 

[radioislife2020]

Because 91.5 was not just donated because people have a good heart! You'll see.

 

[Mrtejano]

Because 91.5 was not just donated because people have a good heart! You'll see.

I predicted a swap.

 

[theantennaguy]

I predicted a swap.

I have a client in Houston who was preparing to file for an LPFM on 89.7 at the upcoming window. All the engineering paperwork has already been done. The filing freeze starts in a little over a week. Funny how they got this in at the last minute, grabbing up what was arguably the only channel left for an LPFM...

 

[Engineering]

I have a client in Houston who was preparing to file for an LPFM on 89.7 at the upcoming window. All the engineering paperwork has already been done. The filing freeze starts in a little over a week. Funny how they got this in at the last minute, grabbing up what was arguably the only channel left for an LPFM...

Hasn't this translator been silent for more than a year? If so, it can't be transferred....

(Moderator edited accusation)

 

[HTX]

Hasn't this translator been silent for more than a year? If so, it can't be transferred, and if it was, both parties are engaged in fraud.

Excuse me sir or ma’am or gender-neutral term (I don’t know sorry), but you need verifiable proof.

 

[Mediafrog+]

Hasn't this translator been silent for more than a year? If so, it can't be transferred, and if it was, both parties are engaged in fraud.

Let’s not go down this rabbit hole again. We just had six threads locked because of the previous dustup.🤫🤐

 

[Engineering]

Let’s not go down this rabbit hole again. We just had six threads locked because of the previous dustup.🤫🤐

I never made any unsubstantiated arguments.

 

[Engineering]

Excuse me sir or ma’am or gender-neutral term (I don’t know sorry), but you need verifiable proof.

I asked a question. I can give you verifiable proof that my question is indeed a question.

 

[davideduardo]

I asked a question. I can give you verifiable proof that my question is indeed a question.

Again, the issue is whether the station has received authorization to remain silent, or has done "limited compliance" such as turning on the transmitter once a year to remain "active.

Unless we know all the facts, this kind of post is gossip and hearsay.

 

[davideduardo]

Hasn't this translator been silent for more than a year?

I edited the assumption that the station was not operating legally.

 

[Engineering]

Again, the issue is whether the station has received authorization to remain silent, or has done "limited compliance" such as turning on the transmitter once a year to remain "active.

This creative variation of "limited compliance" does not serve the public interest, convenience and necessity. Remember, the licensee owns neither the frequency or the authorization to use it. It is a lease of the public airwaves, which are owned by and should be used for the benefit of the American people.

Unless we know all the facts, this kind of post is gossip and hearsay.

Wrong again. My question is a question. Nothing more and nothing less. Now, if someone answered my question using gossip or hearsay, meaning something without documentation to prove what they are saying, then you would have a point. However, for some odd reason, no one has offered an answer. This speaks volumes.

There is nothing wrong with a valid question. You see, David, knowledge isn't a bad thing. Only ignorance is.

 

[davideduardo]

This creative variation of "limited compliance" does not serve the public interest, convenience and necessity. Remember, the licensee owns neither the frequency or the authorization to use it. It is a lease of the public airwaves, which are owned by and should be used for the benefit of the American people.

The FCC has allowed such incidents which permit preservation of licenses that otherwise would totally disappear. It seems to be a case-by-case situation where there has to be an indication that something further is being done. With the country filled with regulations that make it harder and harder to find and build an AM site and then local zoning and NIMBY opposition, it is very challenging to get an AM that lost its site back on the air.

Wrong again. My question is a question. Nothing more and nothing less. Now, if someone answered my question using gossip or hearsay, meaning something without documentation to prove what they are saying, then you would have a point. However, for some odd reason, no one has offered an answer. This speaks volumes.

However, Frank and I set policy here and we will not allow undocumented / unsupported post about the legality of licenses and operations.

There is nothing wrong with a valid question. You see, David, knowledge isn't a bad thing. Only ignorance is.

When a question is worded as an opinion, then it is a bad thing. They teach you that in Statistics 101 in college, too.

Your prior post stated "Hasn't this translator been silent for more than a year? If so, it can't be transferred...." along with your personal analysis and conclusion which was edited by your moderators.

You stated your opinion on "license preservation" by infrequent activation of a station. That is fine and in the spirit of this board.

 

[Deleted member 108832]

I asked a question. I can give you verifiable proof that my question is indeed a question.

That gave me a hearty chuckle. Thank you for that, sir. To answer your question, according to the facility record, K218EJ was only off the air and under STA for the period beginning January 25, 2020 until January 8, 2021, for a total of 349 days. That is the official answer. Whether or not it has been silent since then, nobody has bothered to alert the Commission to it, so it is assumed to be operational.

 

[Engineering]

The FCC has allowed such incidents which permit preservation of licenses that otherwise would totally disappear. It seems to be a case-by-case situation where there has to be an indication that something further is being done. With the country filled with regulations that make it harder and harder to find and build an AM site and then local zoning and NIMBY opposition, it is very challenging to get an AM that lost its site back on the air.

I agree. In a hypothetical situation, let's say that a radio station was silent for a couple of years, yet it was the only station serving a particular community, and the licensee of the silent station sought to transfer the authorization to an entity who could return it to the air, thus serving the public interest. In that case, I believe the Commission would be more friendly to allowing such a transaction to consummate.

However, Frank and I set policy here and we will not allow undocumented / unsupported post about the legality of licences and operations.

And you should, given the potential of libel. Someone once told me that there are more law students in various law schools than there are lawyers. I suspect that most of these will graduate, pass the Bar, and then become hungry lawyers, with a propensity to hound and pound in order to put make their monthly BMW or Porche.

When a question is worded as an opinion, then it is a bad thing. They teach you that in Statistics 101 in college, too.

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is a phrase describing the persuasive power of statistics to bolster weak arguments, "one of the best, and best-known" critiques of applied statistics.

 

[HTX]

There is a forum post on here starting April 4th 2021 that they just heard it come back on. I believe that timeframe is the last time someone mentioned it was on the air. I'm not at all saying that's when it allegedly turned off either.

However, for some odd reason, no one has offered an answer.

It is kind of hard posting verifiable proof a station is off the air on here or has been off the air if people haven't been really documenting it. I've posted before Houston translators and LPFMs that are off the air because of personal observations driving by really close to the transmitters and not hearing anything. But personal observations aren't verifiable proof so I'll leave it at that.

 

[theantennaguy]

That gave me a hearty chuckle. Thank you for that, sir. To answer your question, according to the facility record, K218EJ was only off the air and under STA for the period beginning January 25, 2020 until January 8, 2021, for a total of 349 days. That is the official answer. Whether or not it has been silent since then, nobody has bothered to alert the Commission to it, so it is assumed to be operational.

It was last heard by this listener on April 3, 2021. This is actually a video, but I had to screenshot it because videos can't be uploaded.

 

[Engineering]

It was last heard by this listener on April 3, 2021. This is actually a video, but I had to screenshot it because videos can't be uploaded.

That was two years, four months ago. Does this station have a valid Silent STA which covered it continuously during this period? Is the station in question currently on-the-air, and retransmitting the audio of its stated primary station?