WFAA 570 became KRQX in 1983. Later changed to KLDD in 1987, then KKWM in 1989, then finally KLIF in 1990.
You forgot about WRR.
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WBAP will be simulcasting on 93.3 FM
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Just noticed this: On the call sign application for 93.3, the new requested call is given as KFHH. However the attachments to the application indicate WBAP-FM. A mistake, or is there some sort of procedural issue that would require a temporary call? Date requested for the change is January 22.
It's a procedural thing - the new LMS filing system doesn't allow you to file for a "W" call in Texas, even though it's absolutely allowed in a case like this.Just noticed this: On the call sign application for 93.3, the new requested call is given as KFHH. However the attachments to the application indicate WBAP-FM. A mistake, or is there some sort of procedural issue that would require a temporary call? Date requested for the change is January 22.
So they had to put KFHH in the LMS system as a placeholder and file a waiver request explaining that they're actually requesting (and will be granted) WBAP-FM.
Doesn’t make sense that the same LMS system allowed 94.5 in Texas to apply for the KLUV calls and be granted that despite EMF putting them on a station in South Dakota
The KLUV issue (and others that happened last summer) was caused by a bug in LMS not properly handling call sign exchanges between two stations. This was a straight filing. There were many issues with the call filing system under the old system too such as KTGG being assigned to an AM in Michigan.
The FCC has also become aware of these issues now and perhaps instituted a fix.
I thought the other explanation was too general. If you're simply adding the FM suffix to a local AM station, it's a no-brainer. The only exception of which I'm aware is when WOR tried to change its FM back to WOR-FM, WRFM complained!
FCC rules and their interpretations have changed a lot in the nearly 50 YEARS since then.
The FCC started loosening up on call letters during the nonsensical request KKHJ Los Angeles used to return to KHJ claiming that having call letters starting in "Ka Ka" was offensive during its Spanish language format in 2000.
Here's how tight it used to be: Doubleday wanted to change the call letters of its St. Louis-area, formerly WGNU-FM Granite City, Illinois, to KWK-FM in 1978. Several St. Louis stations objected. The calls were changed to WWWK while the court case proceeded. The key question was whether Granite City and St. Louis could be considered adjoining communities, thus being eligible to have matching call signs between the St. Louis AM and the Granite City FM. The FCC ruled that the communities did not adjoin one another since the Mississippi River separated them by more than a mile. The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in July 1981 that the FCC's ruling was arbitrary and capricious, overruling the commission. The calls were changed to KWK-FM toward the end of that month. Later, in 1988, the FM station, by then not owned by Doubleday, changed back to a W call, and still has a W call today. The AM flipped back and forth between a K call and a W call several times in the 1990s, possibly setting some kind of record.
The call sign change request for 93.3 to WBAP-FM was approved by the FCC this morning. Effective date is January 22.
Yes, how did I forget Classical WRR 101.1?
That's something I've been wondering about for years. How did an FM get the WRR calls? Did they used to have an AM and if so, where on the dial was it?
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1310 in Dallas. It was also owned by the City of Dallas until they sold it to Bonneville in 1978. It then became KAAM, leading the city to drop the -FM suffix on 101.1. 1310 is the oldest facility in Texas, and many have argued that it is the oldest continuously licensed facility in the U.S.
WRR, Where Radio Radiates.
* Broadcasts of police reports and wanted persons information began in June 1921. The reports were given every evening at 7p, and were sometimes followed by phonograph music.
* The Dept. of Commerce licensed WRR as a commercial land station on Aug. 4, 1921.
* Officially licensed by the Federal Radio Commission on March 13, 1922 (the date many historians trace the station to, which is why it doesn't show up with a higher rank on many "oldest stations" lists.)
* WRR resurrected from the dead - The Dept. of Commerce mandated technical upgrades to radio transmitters (many of which were homemade) in 1925. The City was unable to afford the upgrades required for WRR's 200 watt transmitter and turned in the license in July 1925. Local radio fans were outraged, and the Morning News (WFAA) and Time Herald (KRLD) newspapers helped raise the necessary funds to put WRR back on the air, which finally happened on Oct. 15, 1925.
The WRR 1310 twin freestanding towers next to White Rock Lake were a Dallas landmark for many years…the station was 5kw, directional at night. IIRC there was a road that circled around the site. The towers were taken down in the 1980s after 1310 moved to its present location.
Yeah, yeah, but how did it do in the Summer 1922 Hooperatings? 😛
Does anyone have an aircheck?
I'm surprised that I haven't heard about it since the station had the original calls as late as 1978!
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Hasn't KDKA been continuously licensed?
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Yes. As you'll see in the information provided by Huff, WRR's license was surrendered at one time. Even so, there are those that argue those police broadcasts in 1921 predate any transmission from Pittsburgh and, as such, WRR in Dallas should be considered the first station to operate in the continental United States.
I am not in agreement with those that make such an argument.
WRR lasted a long time with 'Slow Jim Lowe' who had a country hit in the 1950s called Behind The Green Door. Their MOR format was made unique with their "Library of Laffs" at 45 minutes past every hour. I heard George Carlin for the first time on WRR 1310, my Dad's favorite station at the time. By about 1972 I think, you were hearing things like Riders On The Storm by The Doors and Knocking On Heaven's Door by Bob Dylan amid the Frank Sinatra and such. In the final years they went talk but stopped that and I think were a combination of talk and music but by then it was beautiful music (at night, anyway).
I recall one of the jocks talking about the ratings on the air saying that overall the were usually #3...no data on whether that was a certain demographic or just 12+
I recall by perhaps late 1980 or early 1981, it was KAAM as sort of a Hot AC.
I recall one of the jocks talking about the ratings on the air saying that overall the were usually #3...no data on whether that was a certain demographic or just 12+
I recall by perhaps late 1980 or early 1981, it was KAAM as sort of a Hot AC.
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