• Get involved.
    We want your input!
    Apply for Membership and join the conversations about everything related to broadcasting.

    After we receive your registration, a moderator will review it. After your registration is approved, you will be permitted to post.
    If you use a disposable or false email address, your registration will be rejected.

    After your membership is approved, please take a minute to tell us a little bit about yourself.
    https://www.radiodiscussions.com/forums/introduce-yourself.1088/

    Thanks in advance and have fun!
    RadioDiscussions Administrators

103.1 WRNR SOLD!!!

I'm not the one clutching my pearls cause someone had the audacity to make a lighthearted joke about CCM. Give me a break for god's sake lol.
 
You know this how?

In your opinion. Not in the opinion of many who do like that sort of music.

That is a stupid and insensitive remark, disrespectful of the tastes of others.
The OP is reflecting on how members of this board cherish local radio; stations cultivated by radio professionals. His correct implication is that no one here wants generic satellite delivered formats, devoid of any local component. Even more so for religious formats that are not general market; and even worse... are designed to proselytize in one form (overt preaching) or another (musical lyrics).

Supplement that with a bias observed in posts of yours over the years where you acknowledge no real interest in rock, alternative or AAA radio. Yes, you have owned rock stations in South America, we know that.... but your personal tastes skew elsewhere, and I surmise your aggressive bias against the OP is subtly influenced by that. He is rightfully disappointed regarding the loss of WRNR, a AAA formatted station on its legacy frequency of 103.1.
 
Last edited:
I surmise your aggressive bias against the OP is subtly influenced by that. He is rightfully disappointment regarding the loss of WRNR, a AAA formatted station on its legacy frequency of 103.1.
That is still no reason to denigrate the musical tastes of others. Tell us what you like, but there is no justification for saying that the choices of others are less important or of lesser value.
 
His correct implication is that no one here wants generic satellite delivered formats, devoid of any local component.
You know that "no one" wants national services how? In much of the world, there is better radio provided by national and regional services.

If you look at television, how much well liked local programming other than newscasts is there? So how is radio different?

The whole idea of localism was fomented in the early 1930's by politicians and bureaucrats who did not want radio to be "too powerful and influential". So they put very moderate to low limits on the power of stations, restricted ownership to very few of them and saddled the medium with programming requirements.
 
That is still no reason to denigrate the musical tastes of others. Tell us what you like, but there is no justification for saying that the choices of others are less important or of lesser value.

as much as he says no one else wants more christian music, i could say no one wants whatever it was he played on his pirate radio station, using his same logic against him
 
as much as he says no one else wants more christian music, i could say no one wants whatever it was he played on his pirate radio station, using his same logic against him
Classic "ready, fire, aim".
 
Classic "ready, fire, aim".

I'm not debating pirate radio for or against.. but im somewhat liberal and a democrat, i mean i work for an NPR station... but he was way far left of that even.

Who needs that liberal hippy dippy stuff on the radio? if you believe what republicans say, not many.

I used logic and opinion, just like he did.

Just proving one can twist anything but absolute fact to fit their narrative.
 
If you look at television, how much well liked local programming other than newscasts is there? So how is radio different?

The whole idea of localism was fomented in the early 1930's by politicians and bureaucrats who did not want radio to be "too powerful and influential". So they put very moderate to low limits on the power of stations, restricted ownership to very few of them and saddled the medium with programming requirements.
Radio is very different:

Music - local stations are attuned to local tastes and local artists. That is why traditionally CHRs in different parts of the country featured regional hits not heard or beloved in other parts of USA. Example: Oingo Boingo's regional popularity in Southern California, which was far higher than anywhere else prior to the release of the song, Weird Science.

News - WINS vs. KYW as an example... have very different local stories. Each has its own local reporters who cover local stories. Factor in weather and traffic and local is very much a local programming advantage.
 
I'm not a CCM fan (preferring southern Gospel, myself) but a number of folks I'm close to are. I've been in plenty of restaurants, stores, car dealerships, etc., where the background music was CCM. And those listeners, I suppose, are good at footing the bill. WRNR? Not my cup of tea, either. I suppose if it was setting the world on fire it would be a huge financial success and we wouldn't be here. I did use to listen to WYRE, regularly, during their brief stint a while back playing classic country. Somewhere I may still have a t-shirt to prove it! Didn't make them rich, either. If I cared enough, I'd have taken out ads to fund the station, or made sure somehow that their advertisers were overwhelmed with business. I don't pay, I have no say.

Another thought from my foggy head: the 103.1 of my childhood was WBEY Bay Country, which didn't seem to hide the fact that they were broadcasting from Grasonville. Want sympathy for local radio? You'll get plenty of points from me, just do local radio. A local newscaster and a local sports guy and all local staff sitting in a building in Grasonville? I'll write the letter to my congressman today. But if your goal is to serve the adjacent, highly populated county with music from a computer in an empty office, why should I bother?
 
Radio is very different:
It may have been decades ago, but "localism" is why radio in the US is doing poorly compared to most other free world nations.
Music - local stations are attuned to local tastes and local artists. That is why traditionally CHRs in different parts of the country featured regional hits not heard or beloved in other parts of USA. Example: Oingo Boingo's regional popularity in Southern California, which was far higher than anywhere else prior to the release of the song, Weird Science.
We are now in the age of the internet. There is, within genres, far more uniformity than ever.

And with only three companies owning the vast majority of the record industry, there are few local labels and fewer pure local hits.
News - WINS vs. KYW as an example... have very different local stories. Each has its own local reporters who cover local stories. Factor in weather and traffic and local is very much a local programming advantage.
News and some kinds of talk are the exception. Just as in TV, stations that were mostly network and syndicated shows paused for local news. Why? Because they could sell it!

But in music programming, there is no reason except fragmented ownership to prevent national networks of individual formats just like in much of the rest of the world.
 
The FCC approved the application to move to 93.5. Power will increase to 240 watts ERP . The radiation center will be 70 meters - fairly high. This is on the 810 AM WYRE tower. I wonder if the old 900 MHz STL to downtown Annapolis will be removed? (WME839).

No streaming audio found as of late.
 
News and some kinds of talk are the exception. Just as in TV, stations that were mostly network and syndicated shows paused for local news. Why? Because they could sell it!

But in music programming, there is no reason except fragmented ownership to prevent national networks of individual formats just like in much of the rest of the world.
And even then, news and sports might be better served by regional networks rather than just serving one market. Much like WEEI does in New England. Or KIIS FM that once stretched from LA to Vegas.

The latter, done today, sure would help disguise Vegas's crappiness as a market.
 
And even then, news and sports might be better served by regional networks rather than just serving one market. Much like WEEI does in New England. Or KIIS FM that once stretched from LA to Vegas.

The latter, done today, sure would help disguise Vegas's crappiness as a market.
For so much growth over the years, you're right. Vegas is a crappy market.
 
For so much growth over the years, you're right. Vegas is a crappy market.
I'll take Vegas radio (particularly the quality of the talent in mornings) over many larger markets including the one that this thread is supposed to be about...

Just calling a market "crappy" doesn't add to a discussion. If you're going to add something that adds nothing to the original thread, at least give us a reason as to why something is "crappy"...
 
I'll take Vegas radio (particularly the quality of the talent in mornings) over many larger markets including the one that this thread is supposed to be about...

Just calling a market "crappy" doesn't add to a discussion. If you're going to add something that adds nothing to the original thread, at least give us a reason as to why something is "crappy"...
That is the radio companies' opinions, not mine. Univision sold their stations in Vegas for this reason.

If anything I lament that the poor Nevadans don't get good radio because companies don't feel it's worth investing in. But I feel a regional chain approach would actually help listeners in undervalued areas like the Inland Empire, Las Vegas, and the High Desert.

National networks invest in covering most of the major cities and their suburbs. If you can't do that at a national scale, then maybe try a regional scale? In any case we need to change some of the FCC rules to make that happen.
 


Back
Top Bottom