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Good Karma dumps Nielsen

Guess I'm one of the few guys that don't listen to sports radio [except for baseball games]. All the sports yakkers cover are football, basketball, baseball, it's like no other sports exist. My interests lie with soccer and wrestling [the REAL wrestling, not that WWE/WWF crap]. I still get into fights with people that say that the Cavs brought Cleveland their first championship and I inform them they're wrong, the Cleveland Crunch [soccer] did that. Then they say "I'm talking about REAL sports" and then the fighting begins.
 
Guess I'm one of the few guys that don't listen to sports radio [except for baseball games]. All the sports yakkers cover are football, basketball, baseball, it's like no other sports exist. My interests lie with soccer and wrestling [the REAL wrestling, not that WWE/WWF crap]. I still get into fights with people that say that the Cavs brought Cleveland their first championship and I inform them they're wrong, the Cleveland Crunch [soccer] did that. Then they say "I'm talking about REAL sports" and then the fighting begins.
Say what you will about the WWE "crap", but their 2nd biggest show of year (Summer Slam) will be at Browns Stadium on August 3, and they'll draw 60-65K at the lakefront.

And by the way, where do a lot of amateur wrestlers wind up going (including guys like Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, and Gable Stevenson - all of whom have won NCAA Titles and/or Olympic Gold Medals)?

That's right...WWE.

And whether it's right, wrong or sideways, when cities count rings, it's always the big 4 (MLB, NFL, NBA, and NHL)

Just ask the Haslams...they have 2 MLS Cups with the Columbus Crew, but all people say are "yeah, but the Browns..."

Just the way the world works.
 
Just ask the Haslams...they have 2 MLS Cups with the Columbus Crew, but all people say are "yeah, but the Browns Buckeyes ..."

Just the way the world works.
There, fixed it for ya. In Columbus, there's the Buckeyes and then there's everybody else.
 
Say what you will about the WWE "crap", but their 2nd biggest show of year (Summer Slam) will be at Browns Stadium on August 3, and they'll draw 60-65K at the lakefront.

And by the way, where do a lot of amateur wrestlers wind up going (including guys like Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar, and Gable Stevenson - all of whom have won NCAA Titles and/or Olympic Gold Medals)?

That's right...WWE.

And whether it's right, wrong or sideways, when cities count rings, it's always the big 4 (MLB, NFL, NBA, and NHL)

Just ask the Haslams...they have 2 MLS Cups with the Columbus Crew, but all people say are "yeah, but the Browns..."

Just the way the world works.
And I've been involved with wrestling long enough [50+ years] to have known many more that walked away from it [describing it as "being sold a bill of goods" and others going on to MMA thinking they'd be the next star only to get the ever loving crap beaten out of them. MOST of them know that if they get a scholarship to college that's going to be it for their careers, not very many are going to be invited to try out for the Olympic wrestling team. Others will try to get into coaching or officiating. Same for soccer, [45+ years, and longer if you include me playing in elementary school in the 60s] I've known a quite few that have gone on to college and know a number that are playing for professional teams [and known a number that work or worked for the Crew] then have gone into coaching/front office. I have a problem with idiots that say "WWE is coming to town? Here, take my money, as much as you want!" and then turn around and bitch because they have to pay $8 to watch a high school or college match. Parents are even worse nowadays, screaming that it's "the coaches fault my kid didn't get a scholarship to XXXXX college." no matter that the only thing they're going to be able to kick is the bucket along with us telling them "look, less then 1/10th of 1% of kids anywhere gets a scholarship to play ANY sport in college"
 
There, fixed it for ya. In Columbus, there's the Buckeyes and then there's everybody else.
To wit, the website for WBNS radio has a perpetual clock counting down to the next “Big Game”.

Yes, WBNS has both the Blue Jackets and Browns, but the Buckeyes have a dedicated nightly two-hour talk show (which I’m surprised hasn’t been syndicated on the OSU radio network yet).
 
There, fixed it for ya. In Columbus, there's the Buckeyes and then there's everybody else.
Wasn't talking Columbus specifically, I meant the overall perception of the Haslams.

Haslams: "Look at our 2 MLS Cups"

Public: "Great...now when are the Browns gonna get a Lombardi Trophy?"

The Crew can win 10 Cups under the Haslams, but the Haslam's legacy will be defined by what the Browns do on their watch - just how it is.
 
Wasn't talking Columbus specifically, I meant the overall perception of the Haslams.

Haslams: "Look at our 2 MLS Cups"

Public: "Great...now when are the Browns gonna get a Lombardi Trophy?"

The Crew can win 10 Cups under the Haslams, but the Haslam's legacy will be defined by what the Browns do on their watch - just how it is.
Likewise, criticism of Robert Kraft on Boston's two sports talkers is never about the Revolution's failure to win an MLS Cup.
 
To wit, the website for WBNS radio has a perpetual clock counting down to the next “Big Game”.

Yes, WBNS has both the Blue Jackets and Browns, but the Buckeyes have a dedicated nightly two-hour talk show (which I’m surprised hasn’t been syndicated on the OSU radio network yet).
That clock isn't just for any old game, but THE game against that team up north

There's an old joke regarding the Buckeyes...they could go 1-11 as long as the "1" is vs. Blue.
 
Likewise, criticism of Robert Kraft on Boston's two sports talkers is never about the Revolution's failure to win an MLS Cup.
Since the start of the 21st century, Boston teams have won 6 Super Bowls, 4 World Series, and NBA title and a Stanley Cup.

I'd love to have their problems.
 
Since the start of the 21st century, Boston teams have won 6 Super Bowls, 4 World Series, and NBA title and a Stanley Cup.
But none since 2019! There are hundreds of thousands of infants, toddlers and first-graders in Boston who've never known that championship feeling.
 
In attempting to go back on topic ... ^^'

WKNR hasn't subscribed to the Arbitron/Nielsen ratings since the late 2000s, and they don't need to. Craig Karamzin has always been sales-oriented and sports formats naturally bill well, regardless of ratings. It's kinda a given that 92.3 outdraws WKNR simply by being an FM vs. AM battle, but WKNR has been trying to push their digital platforms for content sharing and impressions. (Nevermind that both stations have the Browns rights in a unique arrangement.) It's a business model that's worked for him for awhile.

The Nielsen cancellation applied to the former Disney-owned ESPN outlets and to the Milwaukee stations Good Karma bought from Scripps in 2018, all of which had pre-existing contracts. It makes practical and economical sense not to be paying for a service you don't need.

I was just going to make this comment. WKNR hasn't been involved with Nielsen for at least 10-15 years. They're doing just fine.
 
Cleveland is a big football town. More people want to talk American football than soccer.
Even in the three years Cleveland didn't have a football team, the bulk of sports talk was speculation about the incoming team or what happens next with the NFL. The remainder was people griping about whatever tactical error Mike Hargrove made the previous night or pining for that elusive "ace" starting pitcher... and that's not counting the comedy bits Rizzo and Triv had on their respective shows.
 
Even in the three years Cleveland didn't have a football team, the bulk of sports talk was speculation about the incoming team or what happens next with the NFL.

Keep in mind that a market doesn't need to have a local football team to drive interest in football. Today interest can also be driven by fantasy teams and betting. Sports betting is legal in Ohio.
 
Keep in mind that a market doesn't need to have a local football team to drive interest in football. Today interest can also be driven by fantasy teams and betting. Sports betting is legal in Ohio.
I'd imagine that if sports betting is legalized nationwide (with the obvious exception of Utah), fantasy sports will fade away. This is an instant-gratification, short-attention-span society, and the mind-boggling menu of events offered daily to sports bettors -- with results known and payoffs available within hours or even minutes -- is far more exciting and satisfying to sports fans looking for easy money than slogging through months of games and roster manipulations just to claim your share of a pool.
 
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