MassMusicMan
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WHUD Westchester County Reduces Staff
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Just as I was getting into this station too. As much as I love CBS, the thin playlist is getting repetitive. Nice fresh playlist on HUD with more variety of the 80s and 90s
MassMusicMan
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I looked at their website. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
LOL at them airing minor league baseball. You're #1, and you're going to stop the music to air 55+ programming? And that's on top of breaking up your morning show? Absolute clown entity.
They're covering a local team. It's called community service. The games air mostly at night and replace the syndicated John Tesh show. It's a way to bring in local money during a low audience daypart. Lots of music stations run play by play sports at night.
I'm not so sure lots of music stations run sports. I don't think I've ever heard Lite-FM, KOST and WLIT do play-by-play sports, even at night.
Yes, some rock stations air once-a-week NFL games. But that's a case where the listeners of the rock station are mostly men and it's a safe bet most of them are fans of the team anyway.
Yes, some rock stations air once-a-week NFL games. But that's a case where the listeners of the rock station are mostly men and it's a safe bet most of them are fans of the team anyway.
I said music stations. I didn't specify which format. The main point is they're replacing syndication with local.
i worked for a 50kw country station in NW PA .. it runs pirates baseball
runs local high school basketball, football and wrestling left right and sideways.. even did some kids softball and t-ball when they went to a championship game and we could sell it
the 25kw AC station even runs plenty of high school football and basketball
MassMusicMan
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A community service obligation (which is what this isn't) does not obligate them to stop a successful music format for three hours to air a fourth-level professional baseball team's games.
I wouldn't say "lots." Sure, many NFL games air on music stations on Sunday afternoons, but that's not relevant to this argument.
MassMusicMan
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Which you do for a good reason. This isn't one.
MassMusicMan
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Props to the salespeople for getting a buy based on emotion instead of intelligence.
Who the actual hell beyond the kids' families (whom I'd imagine are at the game anyway) would listen to that? I can't wait for data gathering to become cheap and easy enough to trickle down to small markets, and end bad radio programming for good.
No one. It sucks for programming and listenership but it is somewhat easy cash at a time when cash is not coming easy. But you never know...maybe Tball will catch on. Cricket did
That area loved kids sports and as bad as you claim it is, we didnt get any complaints.
In a day and age of stations struggling to make money, this station was billing $40,000 a month in small town rural NW PA
It's 25KW sister AC station was billing about $25,000 a month
MassMusicMan
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Cricket "caught on" because of an increase in South Asian immigrants in the U.S. who already watch it anyway. It will never be a major American sport.
Neither will soccer, outside of quadrennial flag-humping jingoism.
It's minor league baseball. These teams sell the ballpark experience to draw fans, not on-field game results. Only the rare obsessive baseball geeks who care about player development bother to listen to the games. That's why minor league broadcasts are usually paid content, or barter, for radio stations.
MassMusicMan
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Then I start asking why the AC is underperforming.
AC is the equivalent of 25kw at 328 feet
the country is the equivalent of 50kw at 500 feet...thanks to a very tall tower on a hill, the country signal has a much bigger foot print
And because of lack of nearby channels, the country signal performed even better than maps would say
The signals were performing about as expected
Different times they were, of course. But our Long Island station ran Islanders and Mets games (only their night games). In effect, we stopped the daily 20-hour A/C music and turned the highway construction- caution work sign to 'Stop' for a few hours.
Our 'pretty darned good' signal pushed (and helped maintain) the whole package to steady #2's overall in the market, and tops in 'adults'.
The station got the go-ahead for the full Class B power and upped the signal even further. That boost almost instantly propelled us to #1 overall.
I was doing 7-Mid there throughout the upgrade, and feigned being morose when the book came out and mine was the only daypart not to finish #1. A combination of dial-surfing youth, departing older demos plus my attempts at being an A/C jock -- almost an MoR guy -- finished #2.
But the owner (who also headed another major-market A/C) tossed off the blemish. He said it was expected; that the older radio audience generally exits after 6PM anyway. I found this attitude sort of useful when I went to Philly radio (both class B FMers) and saw the dropoff there at two stations when I did nighttime shift at each A/C station.
Am wondering if such an attrition is still the prevalent norm for *today's* AC stations. If so, WHUD will just give a Class B-sized shrug, no? A par for the course they already own anyway?
Our 'pretty darned good' signal pushed (and helped maintain) the whole package to steady #2's overall in the market, and tops in 'adults'.
The station got the go-ahead for the full Class B power and upped the signal even further. That boost almost instantly propelled us to #1 overall.
I was doing 7-Mid there throughout the upgrade, and feigned being morose when the book came out and mine was the only daypart not to finish #1. A combination of dial-surfing youth, departing older demos plus my attempts at being an A/C jock -- almost an MoR guy -- finished #2.
But the owner (who also headed another major-market A/C) tossed off the blemish. He said it was expected; that the older radio audience generally exits after 6PM anyway. I found this attitude sort of useful when I went to Philly radio (both class B FMers) and saw the dropoff there at two stations when I did nighttime shift at each A/C station.
Am wondering if such an attrition is still the prevalent norm for *today's* AC stations. If so, WHUD will just give a Class B-sized shrug, no? A par for the course they already own anyway?
No baseball tonight anyway on WHUD.
I could be mistaken, and something could have changed, but this March press release from the baseball team itself says nothing about carriage on WHUD:
Hudson Valley Renegades-Pamal Broadcasting partnership
The FM mentioned is "WBPM 96.5" (sic). The 96.5 frequency is actually a translator for WBNR (AM). WBPM is at 92.9 FM.
In fact, the HVR game last Friday evening WAS broadcast on WBPM (92.9 FM), along with AM-ers WBNR, WGHQ and WLNA. That group of AM stations each have an FM translator, and the AM's mentioned ALL normally are simulcasting the WBPM "classic oldies" program.
Fast forward to TONIGHT's Renegades game:
92.9 WBPM is doing its usual "classic hits" presentation. WHUD is running John Tesh's program.
The Renegades game is being broadcast on the 3 above-mentioned AMs, and the WLNA translator. The rest of the translators are out of range for me, so can't say for certain what they're doing.
But no baseball on WHUD.
I could be mistaken, and something could have changed, but this March press release from the baseball team itself says nothing about carriage on WHUD:
Hudson Valley Renegades-Pamal Broadcasting partnership
The FM mentioned is "WBPM 96.5" (sic). The 96.5 frequency is actually a translator for WBNR (AM). WBPM is at 92.9 FM.
In fact, the HVR game last Friday evening WAS broadcast on WBPM (92.9 FM), along with AM-ers WBNR, WGHQ and WLNA. That group of AM stations each have an FM translator, and the AM's mentioned ALL normally are simulcasting the WBPM "classic oldies" program.
Fast forward to TONIGHT's Renegades game:
92.9 WBPM is doing its usual "classic hits" presentation. WHUD is running John Tesh's program.
The Renegades game is being broadcast on the 3 above-mentioned AMs, and the WLNA translator. The rest of the translators are out of range for me, so can't say for certain what they're doing.
But no baseball on WHUD.
MassMusicMan
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That's piss-poor digital management on their part, then. Literally says right the WHUD homepage "The radio home of Hudson Valley Renegades Baseball." Says nothing about the games being on their sister station. Even clicking on it takes you externally to the team's website, not to a link to the stream of the station which airs the games.
But, hey, why master looking good and retaining traffic on a medium that's used by everybody?
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