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Make radio strong again

Every so often I read a comment
extolling the features of today's technology and stating that
radio is a long gone part of history. Usually the argument is
that with today's cell phones and the internet radio as we knew
it in the 60's 70's and 80's is unnecessary. The statement is
almost always that we don't need time checks ,temperature updates and
weather reports etc because it's all there on our phones. This
argument presupposes that back in the day people sat by their radio
in wild anticipation of the next forecast or temperature or time
announcement.

I think this belief comes from people who were not there back then
and assume facts untrue. Truth be told we didn't need the radio
back then to get this info either . Most people could check the time with
a flick of their wrist for a glance at their watch which was actually
faster then we can do it with a cell phone today given having to
tap it to see the display. For temperature everybody had thermometers
at the homes and so did many cars. I remember my grandmother
doting on the temperature going out to read her thermometer
on her back porch hourly. As for weather it was in the newspaper
which everyone subscribed to back then.

Wait you say, people didn't need radio to get that information
back then? So why did you give time/temp/etc? Because It was
ancillary to our daily life. When you heard a time break you would
think, “ Oh, is it that late?........” Same with temperature
“ Wow, it's that hot?.....”. Hearing the information on the radio
backed up our belief at that moment.

Same goes for the DJ assuming he/she was entertaining and not
long winded we enjoyed them between the hits. If they kept you
up to date on things directly effecting you like bad weather, ( Local
TV does that to this day) or events near you or effecting you nearby
more power to them. If a concert was coming and you heard the
scuttlebutt you tuned to the local station because they had a
reputation for giving out the local concert information. Same goes
for other local events. In short back then the station's worked hard
to create a reputation as a local source for things be it concert info,
local news, time, temperature weather etc.

Even the Drake format and Mike Joseph's programming contained
a wealth of information germane to the community. So why did it stop
on so many stations?

In my opinion it was for several reasons. I remember sitting in my
office talking with a few DJs+ about how could satellite radio possibly
maintain it's localisum when the jock had to speak generically.
Any reference to one community would be foreign in all the others.
We laughed and said it wasn't possible. As we now know with
the advent of satellite and then computer driven programming
a station can operate. But the cost is localisum. The other thing
that clouded our thinking back then was the success of the all
music stations like good music, top forty , country that appealed
to a large audience by virtue of their large coverage area . We
tended to covet their audience and try to copy them when in
fact we didn't have the coverage to compete. All at the cost
of the local community.

Now we wonder how to save the industry. I think the answer
is simple, go back to being local. I don't mean the local yo cal
rural radio station I mean a professional presentation with
local elements embedded. It can be done easily with today's
computer automation. Easy for small local chains not so much
for national companies but hey that gives the small locals a
one up on the big guys. Sound professional as hell broadcast
stream your product but always
boost your community after all that is where your listeners
are it's not how they receive your product it's that they do
and it is about them!

I hope I didn't bore you with the ramblings of an old radio
broadcaster just hope it was food for thought.
 
Now we wonder how to save the industry. I think the answer
is simple, go back to being local.

There are thousands of local radio stations with local staffs doing local programming and running local commercials. Have you ever heard WINS? How about KNX? These are local news stations. There are also local music stations employing thousands of local DJs. Maybe you don't listen. But they're there. They were there 25 years ago when people started listening to other things. Having local radio didn't stop them from subscribing to XM or Sirius. XM & Sirius aren't local. But 34 million people subscribe.

As for Drake and Mike Joseph, they weren't local. They created national cookie cutter formats that they put on local radio stations. But they were national. They were like McDonalds: National chain with local staff. Is that what you mean by local?

Radio was easy in the 60s and 70s when the only choice people had was between the national music format they wanted to hear. Once they had other options, they started leaving radio for other things. Those other things make have been cassettes of their own music. When the internet came along, they found more options there.

So sure, go back to local. We're already doing that. However, all of those local advertisers we used to have are now national chains. The local department stores, local hardware stores, local restaurants, and local services are all national. They don't buy local advertising. They buy national. So what do you do when the money goes away? How do you hire local staff without local advertising? That's my question to you.
 
When you heard a time break you would
think, “ Oh, is it that late?
I described the morning show on what was my favorite station in another thread I started after seeing an article about morning shows in Billboard.

One thing I left out was the man says it's 8:20 so if you have to be at work by 9 you have 40 minutes. Or 8:40 and you have to be there is 20.
 
The local department stores, local hardware stores, local restaurants, and local services are all national. They don't buy local advertising. They buy national. So what do you do when the money goes away? How do you hire local staff without local advertising? That's my question to you.
That same station I just mentioned, and another one in my area, have these. I don't know how profitable they are but there are a lot of local advertisers.
 
I described the morning show on what was my favorite station in another thread I started after seeing an article about morning shows in Billboard.

One thing I left out was the man says it's 8:20 so if you have to be at work by 9 you have 40 minutes. Or 8:40 and you have to be there is 20.



I really don't need the talent to do math for me.




"If you all would just buy a clock, a thermometer and a record player, we could sleep in."

---Lohman and Barkley, KFI, Los Angeles, 1970
 
Way to many words in that OP to even bother to try to comprehend.

Want to make radio great again. Play the stuff people want to listen too.

Ah. Now, you see---that attention span problem of yours?

Other people have it when it comes to songs you like but they don't.

Radio literally does nothing but play stuff people want to listen to. The songs they have in common as songs they love, like or at the very least won't push the button during.
 
So sure, go back to local. We're already doing that. However, all of those local advertisers we used to have are now national chains. The local department stores, local hardware stores, local restaurants, and local services are all national. They don't buy local advertising. They buy national. So what do you do when the money goes away? How do you hire local staff without local advertising? That's my question to you.
Local advertising and programming part yes that's easier to do in the top 20-40 radio and TV markets where there's a large target demos but in smaller markets that's impossible to get in those cases. It's kind of like the example of covering eastern Washington State where tv talent is not in a good spot.


We said something similar in the newspapers thread where the business model has changed and outlets needed to operate differently to the times.
 
Ah. Now, you see---that attention span problem of yours?

Other people have it when it comes to songs you like but they don't.

Radio literally does nothing but play stuff people want to listen to. The songs they have in common as songs they love, like or at the very least won't push the button during.
You know why I listen to SXM exclusively. There is something I want to listen too.
 
Local advertising and programming part yes that's easier to do in the top 20-40 radio and TV markets where there's a large target demos but in smaller markets that's impossible to get in those cases. It's kind of like the example of covering eastern Washington State where tv talent is not in a good spot.


We said something similar in the newspapers thread where the business model has changed and outlets needed to operate differently to the times.
New Year's morning I heard an NPR story talking about the same thing. They mentioned that 2 newspapers shut down every week across the US in 2023, and also mentioned that the number of journalists declined by a large amount -- maybe 30% since 2005? I don't remember the exact figure. The 2 newspapers a week being shut down is also mentioned in the article you linked.

Tough times in Legacy media. One problem newspapers faced was when CL and other online classified ads cut newspaper revenues by around 40% within a year or two after free, online classified ads went national, in every major metro.

The internet (and the smartphone) has changed everything.
 
Now we wonder how to save the industry. I think the answer
is simple, go back to being local. I don't mean the local yo cal
rural radio station I mean a professional presentation with
local elements embedded. It can be done easily with today's
computer automation. Easy for small local chains not so much
for national companies but hey that gives the small locals a
one up on the big guys. Sound professional as hell broadcast
stream your product but always
boost your community after all that is where your listeners
are it's not how they receive your product it's that they do
and it is about them!
Why was music radio local in the 50's and 60s' and even beyond? Lack of affordable technology.

Music stations could not easily replicate the success of network radio from the later 20's well into the 50's because the cost of 24/7 land lines from Ma Bell at a frequency response range good enough for even AM music was just not feasible.

Yet in Europe and much of Latin America, much higher power stations with 100,000 watts up to 1,000,000 watts covered entire countries or regions. They brought big city radio to the whole area and they beat smaller localized stations.

Then, just as now, the interesting interviews and breaking entertainment news and the latest record releases are all centralized. Artists and feature material was in Mexico City, not Tepatitlán... Paris and not Brest... London and not Newcastle. And those big signals had their studios in those places or, at lest,in the case of Radio Monte Carlo or Radio Luxembourg or the Andorra superpower stations, had their content brought in from London or Paris or Madrid or Rome.

Nearly all the world has moved to national and regional music formats because such operations (either on a big signal or lots of smaller ones) could give the content along with a nation's best talent and most skilled programmers.

For decades I worked with a "national" simulcast FM network in Puerto Rico. We did not do anything original on the signals outside of San Juan except allowing for local ad availabilities. The rest was "national" and we generally had a 12 to 13 share in a 130 station market... twice that of the #2 station. The local stations on the rest of the Island got low shares, and over the years almost all the FMs have become part of "networks" that cover all or most of the Island.

But while there were both networked all-Island stations and some purely single-market area stations, those single stations did horribly... or sold to an evangelical religious group.

The U.S. has not kept up with the rest of the world, in part because of ownership restrictions, power limitations and other limitations not imposed elsewhere.
 
I know a station voice tracked 24/7 and none of the talent lives in the county. We are the local station. Local news. Local info. Local weather. And time.

Putting a human in a studio just doesn't need to happen if you do this right.

If you're wondering, we're talking a town of about 17,000. We are #1 by a huge margin and were are financially successful.
 
I know a station voice tracked 24/7 and none of the talent lives in the county. We are the local station. Local news. Local info. Local weather. And time.

Putting a human in a studio just doesn't need to happen if you do this right.

If you're wondering, we're talking a town of about 17,000. We are #1 by a huge margin and were are financially successful.
True too the programming just has to be relevant to the largest target demos. Also we have been seeing this for some time on the TV side where a person with relevant content can do a show from anywhere and get a national audience on YouTube and Twitch instantly if the content attract a large audience.
 
i lived in laramie, wy for 2 years.. i still do afternoons remotely from 2500 miles away... and our stand alone FM beats the pants off the deceased lawyers estate with 3 jukeboxes that has one live shift and one tracked shift among 3 stations and townsquare which has no local programming on the AM and the FM is over in cheyenne. our TSL when i saw numbers a few years ago smashes our nearest comeptition by 2x and most of the market by 3 to 4x.. our news is at 5 after and kept short and our breaks are short too at 20 35 and 50.

Ive had missing kids/breaking news on within minutes of finding out.

For 6 years, i was heard across the country on 40 or 50 classic country stations doing overnights 7 days a week.. and i had a small, but very dedicated legion of fans that i interacted with by email and facebook
 
The OP makes a good point that there is an audience for local content and community information. Traditional radio would meet this demand in the pre-internet era by providing local tidbits during the breaks between songs or local cut-ins during long-form content. That model worked at the time because there were few alternatives for this information (the local paper and the evening news).

Today, sites like Facebook, Reddit, Nextdoor, and X can be as hyperlocal or global as one desires based on the search terms used, groups followed, etc. With a mouse click, I can instantly find out what's happening in my neighborhood or learn about events on the other side of the planet. I can't help but question how many people would be willing to re-discover traditional radio to hear local information interspersed between songs on a playlist.

As mentioned here, there are several locally focused radio stations in operation today, and I assume most of them are profitable. But I can also recall several stations off the top of my head that were once dominant heritage stations with a strong local element that were either sold to EMF or a multicultural broadcaster, switched to a satellite format like Westwood One, switched to fully automated programming with no local staff, or eventually became silent.

If returning radio broadcasting to its local roots is a recipe for a successful business strategy, why is the industry moving in the opposite direction? There have been stations for sale in several markets recently with very little interest from prospective buyers. There's ample opportunity for a radio veteran to get some investors to fund their business plan, buy a station that's currently struggling, and execute your local programming strategy. (Note: This is a general comment and not directed at the OP or anyone in particular.)
 
If returning radio broadcasting to its local roots is a recipe for a successful business strategy, why is the industry moving in the opposite direction?

Because it's not 1960 anymore. The local hardware store is now a Home Depot. The local department store is now Kohls, Target, and Walmart. The local pizza place is Pizza Hut. And so on. Local business paid for local radio. When local business goes away, who fills that void.

Having said all that, as I said in post #2, there are THOUSANDS of local DJs and staffers at radio stations all across the country. I know, because I am one. I know because I speak with my fellow radio staffers at various conclaves and boot camps around the country. These are people who work two jobs so they can pay the bills with radio money. Someone posted the list of the Marconi Awards nominees, and they're all local people in all market sizes, from the largest to the smallest.

If you want a locally staffed radio station, all you have to do is turn on the radio. It may not play your favorite music, but if you want local, it's available. Even in small towns.

There's ample opportunity for a radio veteran to get some investors to fund their business plan, buy a station that's currently struggling, and execute your local programming strategy.

That's a great comment and I correspond with several radio veterans who retired with a nice 401K plan that allowed them to buy a small station and do radio as a hobby. They may not get great ratings, but they're keeping busy and having fun. So yes, it's being done right now.
 
If returning radio broadcasting to its local roots is a recipe for a successful business strategy, why is the industry moving in the opposite direction?
Because paying for a local airstaff like in the days when local radio and TV were the only games in town was much easier. Now there's 10X the competition and as BigA mentioned, 60% fewer local advertisers willing or able to support those live and local shows.
There have been stations for sale in several markets recently with very little interest from prospective buyers.
Because back in the recession of 2008, radio station values plummeted and never returned. Much of that was because Wall Street determined that digital-whatever and social media was the future, so radio as an industry had little to no chance of growth.
There's ample opportunity for a radio veteran to get some investors to fund their business plan, buy a station that's currently struggling, and execute your local programming strategy.
Yes, I think you should. Of course, good luck finding financing because the investment community and banks have completely turned their back on traditional broadcasting as a business. The reasons are simple: 1. There's a better than even chance the business will fail and they will be out of their investment. 2. Most individuals interested in buying radio or TV don't have enough collateral to put up, let alone the courage that they won't lose everything by putting it up as collateral for a loan on some radio gamble. 3. Banks simply won't loan for radio purchases because the business has a track record worse than opening a restaurant. And even if a bank loaned you the money, it would be at an unsustainable interest rate with stiffer than typical penalties.
 
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