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Markets With A 50s/60s Oldies Station

I'm not sure which of those you think may be illegal, but the Harvey reruns are airing on a lot of stations, among them the venerable WGN in Chicago, so there must be some kind of syndication arrangement out there. Perhaps it is his son Paul Jr. who holds the rights ... I recall that he wrote many of them from the mid-1970s on and briefly voiced the feature for ABC after his father's death.

"Live From the 60's" reruns are syndicated by M.G. ("Machine Gun") Kelly alongside his own weekly shows.
It was the Paul Harvey reruns I was referring to. The syndication arrangement must be recent. Here's a thread from last year that discussed the illegal aspect of stations currently aring The Rest of the Story.

 
In 1986-87, she also published the “Mediatrix” market profiles. They were self-published, using a dot-matrix printer. But don’t let that fool you. She immersed herself in the market that she was covering for any given issues. Unfortunately, there are just 10 of them, and she didn’t cover San Francisco, a market for which I wish I had a better historic grounding. But she did a profile of Houston, the year after I left, and I can say she got just about everything right. The only wish I would have had is that she would have provided more detail on the news giants of the time, KTRH and KPRC, both now much diminished but big in their day. Otherwise, it’s a great slice of radio history, well grounded in its time and place. It’s an absolute pleasure to read those Mediatrix profiles. They’re available at worldradiohistory.com.

Provided by Rollye herself.

And an explanation of why she did Mediatrix after here VoxJox exit: https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Mediatrix/Rollye-James-Mediatrix.pdf
 
That app uses the Streema database, which for KYNO points to the same streaming source as the station's web site (http://ice8.securenetsystems.net/KYNO). Mark Roberts said that it was blocking him with a 403 error from his 8* zip code in another thread, so it's possible it will only work in that app for California listeners as well. Anyone else out there want to try?

I don’t remember that, thereby reinforcing the principle of always telling the truth so that you don’t have to remember what you said!

More seriously, though, I’m in California (East San Francisco Bay) today and had no problem picking up the KYNO stream at the URL given. But I’ll be back in Colorado by Monday, so I can try it again then - both times on my iPad.
 
I don’t remember that, thereby reinforcing the principle of always telling the truth so that you don’t have to remember what you said!

More seriously, though, I’m in California (East San Francisco Bay) today and had no problem picking up the KYNO stream at the URL given. But I’ll be back in Colorado by Monday, so I can try it again then - both times on my iPad.
I’m in Kansas and it loaded immediately for me.
 
I don’t remember that, thereby reinforcing the principle of always telling the truth so that you don’t have to remember what you said!
Maybe you were just up late and don't remember? :) It was here:

https://radiodiscussions.com/thread...re-there-any-in-your-area.773024/post-6753037

I’m in Kansas and it loaded immediately for me.
Thanks! I'm glad to know this. Although I understand its financial necessity for some, I resent what geofencing has done to the world of "internet DXing."
 
Thanks for the reminder. I had been traveling and working off my iPad, which has limitations. I'm back home now, and tried the link you had given in post #57 and...it works. So perhaps the earlier connection failure was something else.
Doubly good to know. Thanks for the second confirmation. :)

Now if only there were a way to convince the management there to stream at more than 32 kbit/s. I love their playlist.
 
I am trying to put together a list of top 100 markets with a 50s/60s Oldies station. Off the top of my head, only Milwaukee comes to mind (I know the station is somewhat of a rimshot, but it has good reception downtown). If anyone does not mind, can you add to my list? Thanks in advance.
WSRQ plays some 60’s, but very little 50’s. It’s mostly 70’s and 80’s otherwise.
 
Believe it or not, there is a large market station that plays quite a bit of the 50's and 60's. It's a mix of Oldies, Adult Standards, and Classic Country. It's a George Flinn owned station. They also air the Doo Wop Shop on Sunday nights.

WMPS 1210/103.1 Memphis, TN

 
I regularly listen to WJRD 1150 Tuscaloosa, AL. And WBOJ 1270 Columbus, GA.
Occasionally KLLA 1570 Leesville, LA when I can hear their 6 watts!
KVOL 1330 Lafayette, LA hard to get.
 
WABC 770 NYC actually has an oldies show on Saturday night hosted by Bruce Morrow
(Cousin Brucie). He's literally 89!
They sure do! I was just listening to it cruising around with my girlfriend this past Saturday evening. Nothing like your love falling asleep on your shoulder while you're singing "True Love Ways" by Buddy Holly to her, coming in from NYC at 50kw of pure AM power on Brucie's show with some nice classic WABC reverb... It's almost like it could be the 60s again... I'm so thankful for Brucie on WABC - it lets me experience something I otherwise never would have been able to, being in my early 20s today.
 
WABC 770 NYC actually has an oldies show on Saturday night hosted by Bruce Morrow
(Cousin Brucie). He's literally 89!

What's sad is that you need a billionaire with deep pockets who is willing to operate a 50kw blowtorch in a manner that accommodates what is apparently his personal tastes in music. Can't be done in 99.9% of the markets, because stations have to rely on ad revenue, and that's drying up faster than ever for the Oldies format.
 
94.9 the Surf Myrtle Beach SC could be described this way. In fact, a lot of the recordings are newer even if the music sounds old. Sometimes the station plays brand new recordings. The format is called "Beach" but some songs considered "classic hits" are also played. Most artists are African-American but the DJs and the listeners are white.
The Surf (WVCO) is an excellent station, and definitely the best of the Carolina Beach Music stations in the southeastern US. It is a mix of oldies (going all the way back to the jump blues era of the 40s and 50s), classic R&B, some country, occasional modern pop (Pitbull, Dua Lipa) and contemporary beach-style music by a large assortment of singers and bands from the Carolinas (a huge part of the playlist). They use retro-sounding PAMS jingles and have fun, engaging air talent deeply involved in the local scene (the most recent hire, DJ Heavy, is, in fact, African-American). Just a fun, locally-owned station with a heavy North Myrtle Beach presence (Myrtle Beach itself is barely acknowledged). Ratings (overall) are quite good, typically near the top 5.

Beach music is a pretty popular format throughout the Carolinas. The closest to a full-service operation besides The Surf would be Curtis Media's Beach, Boogie and Blues network (an AM and FM station, a few HD2s and multiple translators) in eastern North Carolina, though their web stream currently appears to be geo-locked to local listeners only. They do, however, have a full morning-evening live airstaff with popular local jocks. Playlist is similar to WVCO's, though not as adventurous with new music.

There's also a few very small mom-and-pop beach stations in some small towns. They tend to be mostly oldies-based. A list is featured here:

 
What's sad is that you need a billionaire with deep pockets who is willing to operate a 50kw blowtorch in a manner that accommodates what is apparently his personal tastes in music. Can't be done in 99.9% of the markets, because stations have to rely on ad revenue, and that's drying up faster than ever for the Oldies format.
I do have to wonder how much revenue a syndicated talk program on WABC in Brucie's timeslot would actually bring in... My guess is not a ton. A lot of stations seem to run "best of" from weekday syndicated programs then. Sure, Brucie's show isn't cheap to produce... but I doubt it's all that different profit-wise from the generic syndicated talk program that would be on most 50kw blowtorches that time of the night.

Wonder what Goya is paying for the sponsorship on his & Tony's show... Makes me want to go out and buy some Goya in support of the show. Because if it's Goya... it has to be good!
 
Ratings (overall) are quite good, typically near the top 5.

Probably true, if you only look at 12+ numbers (or as you correctly state, "overall"), which have proven to be meaningless in terms of determining the actual viability of a station. (The only reason Nielsen gives those away for free is because they know the numbers are worthless to the industry so they use them to keep their name visible to potential diarykeepers.)

If, however, the demographic breakouts show the audience is entirely 55+ (or overwhelming so), there's no ad sales potential. In that case, it does not matter how "popular" the music is or how involved in the community a station and its air talent are. They are still only attracting listeners that are of no use in terms of improving revenue.

Locally-owned isn't the saving grace it used to be, either. I have been seeing more and more "mom and pop" stations either sell out or go silent in recent years. Which makes sense, because they are going to have the shallowest pockets and be more dependent on ad revenue.
 


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