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Trump threatens a 100% tariff on foreign-made films

Crazy. As with all complex modern endeavors, film and TV production is done across borders - your actors are from all over the world, you film it in Northern Ireland, you edit it in the United States, CGI effects are added in Korea, and so on. A lot of TV nowadays is co-funded between, say, BBC and Netflix. It's just like modern cars - look under the hood and see the labels on all the parts from multiple different countries, how do you know if the car is "American" or "Japanese" or whatever?

For better or worse, the global consumer economy has moved on from this basic nationalism, we all work with people from all over the world nowadays, I have co-workers in India and China and the United States, and these attempts to put the genie back in the bottle are going to result in nothing but chaos and pointless job losses before the politicians give up. What good are politicians of any stripe these days? We seem to run our economy despite their moronic rabble-rousing, rather than with their help.
 
Some states tried to bring in movie production for tax credits (Iowa was one) and it ended up not working out in the end, but they're trying again. However, Peter Fonda, Adrien Brody and Luke Perry were all filming movies when I lived in Des Moines, so it was cool having them in town. None of them were big budget movies though.
Georgia has a lot of movie production going. Tennessee has a lot of TV production, though less with Scripps Networks/Discovery mostly leaving Knoxville. Burt Reynolds' last movie was filmed largely in Knoxville, friends were extras. (From someone connected with the film: "Block a street to make a movie in L.A., people get mad; do it in Knoxville, people bring pies")
 




There are states that filed lawsuits against the Trump administration but these lawsuits didn't include tariffs on TV and Movies at the time they were filed. Those lawsuits were focused on manufacturing
and agriculture operations at that time. So far we have to wait for the verdicts on that one. We need movie production companies like Netflix, Comcast, Disney, Paramount, Fremantle, Sony, Lionsgate, Banijay to sue the Trump administration on tariffs specifically. We seen how that went when the administration was sued on the 1st Amendment part.
 
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Do a little research on the history of prohibition. A very small minority somehow convinced the congress and a majority of the states to vote for a constitutional amendment that made the sale and consumption of alcohol a federal crime. No beer, no wine, no spirits. All illegal. It came after the last pandemic. Prohibition lasted over ten years. It took the great depression and Roosevelt to get it repealed. But we're about to go through another similar period. All driven by basically the same minority.
A better comparison would be the Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act, which plunged the world from a severe depression into an outright economic global depression that lasted a decade. Only this time it's all totally conjured up in the mind of an old, economically illiterate man and his subservient, pliable party.

Also I beg to differ about the "30%" figure. There's a lot more people who support these destructive actions than you'd think.
 
There are three manufacturing companies that are joining the Attorney General of states to sue the Trump Administration over Tariffs. Rookie Mage Games, Learning Resources and Spielcraft Games, LLC have joined in the class action lawsuit.





 
congress itself has given up any rights to stop these tariffs,
They can stop the tariffs. That's their only job.

The last thing we need is a Congress with Stockholm Syndrome

Also I beg to differ about the "30%" figure. There's a lot more people who support these destructive actions than you'd think.
30% is the baseline unshakable, hardcore Trump supporter number. It fluctuates beyond that. But 30% of 340 million people is still 102 million people. So 30% is a much bigger number than it looks.
 

Here is an op ed on how Movie and TV tariffs affect the UK.

Here is Jon Voight's response to the Tariffs given that he is one of the parties that endorsed the Film Tariffs with Trump.


 
This board is sounding more like MSNBC every day. I'm not defending Trump or any other politician, but I thought discussions were supposed to stay away from political bashing in these threads.
 
A lot has changed in the last 60 years in the realm of trade agreements between nations. Ecuador is no exception.

The United States and Ecuador signed a free trade agreement at the end of the Reagan administration, and it has been updated several times, most recently by the Trump administration in 2020 to reduce trade barriers in agricultural products.
But the real issue always with American broadcast equipment is that most companies don't deal in anything but English.

Last night, I had problems with my electric paper cutter, a roughly $1000 machine. I sent an email about the issue, and was asked, in an immediate response, to get on face time and show them the problem. They provided an instant solution and in about an hour I had paperwork about a replacement part they were shipping.

All this was in English about as good as mine. I chatted with the service rep, and she said she had studied English since she was 6 years old. The Chinese have a long-term view, and that is why they are dominating markets all over the world.
According to a report from the US Department of Commerce, export rates from the United States and dozens of other countries with which Ecuador has trade agreements are relatively low, but not zero:
I don't know of a single station in Ecuador that has American broadcast equipment. The only thing that has been sold there is music scheduling software, in fact.
I'd be surprised if local production of broadcast gear in Chile still made sense, given that US manufacturers have been duty free for over 20 years.
The majority of stations use locally made equipment, and have instant, often same-day, parts supplies. I've been in many stations and there is a lot of older European gear, but Chinese equipment is becoming prevalent and is much lower priced.

US equipment is much higher priced, which is what has cost the makers market share. And most companies don't have good manuals in Spanish or Portuguese and limited if any support staff in those languages.
 
This board is sounding more like MSNBC every day. I'm not defending Trump or any other politician, but I thought discussions were supposed to stay away from political bashing in these threads.
Unfortunately politics under the current administration have intruded into our everyday lives more than any time in my 75 years of living on this planet. I don't ever remember politicians (you know who they are) going after broadcast companies because they didn't like their news coverage. They might have been unhappy with the coverage but they didn't investigate them or threaten the licenses they operate under.

For at least the next 3 1/2 years that's just the way it is.
 

Here is the rest of the industry responding to the proposed tariffs.


Here is Bob Igers response to that Tariff.
 



Here is more fallout as Canada and India responds to the Tariff threat to films.
 

Here is Pittsburgh responding to the film tariffs.




Also the Recording and concert industries are also being targeted for tariffs too. Like Movies and TV the same set of issues are at play here. Plus concerts, tourism, promotions and musical instruments are affected by this too if this is approved given that this is part of the business model of the music labels.
 
Here is more this time from the Movie and TV studio chiefs having talks on how to respond to the tariffs issue.

Participants in Friday’s call have not been made public, but according to The Hollywood Reporter, which first reported the meeting was happening this week, Disney Entertainment co-chairman Alan Bergman, Amazon MGM Studios’ chief Mike Hopkins, Universal Pictures chair and NBCUniversal Entertainment and Studios chief Donna Langley, Paramount Global co-CEO Brian Robbins, Sony Pictures Motion Picture Group chair Tom Rothman, Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos and Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav were expected to call in.

Although the industry would clearly welcome help from government to spur more domestic production, the solution Trump proposed on Sunday — a 100% tariff on all movies made outside of the United States — isn’t one that anybody wanted. And even if it was, it would be extremely difficult to implement in any rational way
 

Here's more on how the UK responds to production as they get hit with tariffs.


Also New York State responds to Tax Credits for filming in the state.
 


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