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Young people don't know these songs

I had the pleasure of listening to a pioneer in that transition during my college years. WHEN Syracuse was bright, upbeat, professional (except for that infamous singing EBS warning) and always entertaining. WFBL soon joined the adult contemporary ranks.
Before we managed to have the format named "Adult Contemporary" it was called "Chicken Rock" because it played a lot of Top 40 station songs, along with some that were a bit more adult.

Among the first real AC stations were ones like Bill Tanner-programmed WJDX and the one I programmed in Birmingham, WERC. Both were fairly current-intensive, but with slower rotations. At the other extreme, Lund's WGAR in Cleveland was very gold based, with fewer currents. But the sound of all of those early adopters was very "Top 40 Lite" and not at all rooted in the crooners, Big Bands and the like.
 
Before we managed to have the format named "Adult Contemporary" it was called "Chicken Rock" because it played a lot of Top 40 station songs, along with some that were a bit more adult.

Among the first real AC stations were ones like Bill Tanner-programmed WJDX and the one I programmed in Birmingham, WERC. Both were fairly current-intensive, but with slower rotations. At the other extreme, Lund's WGAR in Cleveland was very gold based, with fewer currents. But the sound of all of those early adopters was very "Top 40 Lite" and not at all rooted in the crooners, Big Bands and the like.

Others of note would be late '67-early '68 KFWB, Los Angeles, under PD Bob Oakes, just before the flip to news, Chuck Blore's KIIS-AM (1970) and KFMB, San Diego under Jack Woods (1972).
 
Before we managed to have the format named "Adult Contemporary" it was called "Chicken Rock" because it played a lot of Top 40 station songs, along with some that were a bit more adult.

I have to laugh at that, since my first station was owned by a guy who had deliberately put it on the air only about a year before he hired me, and to him the two best types of music were Big Band and Classical. He did a six-hour program every Saturday with the former and four hours every night of the latter. The "regular" format was a mix of Standards artists (Sinatra, Peggy Lee, etc.) plus cover versions of recent hits (Ray Conniff, Andre Kostelanetz, Percy Faith) and a couple of songs per hour from the Saturday show library.

But, except for his two special shows, the ad dollars weren't there, and by 1975 he was at his wits' end (and barely tolerating the 19-year-old he had hired, who was now doing the afternoon show). And one day I brought in my own copy of "The Last Farewell" by Roger Whittaker and played it when I knew he was in the building listening. He was pleasantly astonished ... even more so when I told him it was a current top-40 hit.

The format changed. Out went the cover vocals and instrumentals, the Big Band and Standards were restricted to songs that had been popular as currents, and only constituted about 5% of the hour. Their replacement was music by Gordon Lightfoot, the Carpenters, Simon and Garfunkel, etc. And yet he worried that the changes would alienate "his audience".

He was convinced otherwise when out of the blue a letter arrived from one of the locals addressed directly to him, thanking him for introducing them to music by "singers like that pleasant Neil Diamond". He did the smart thing and made that the centerpiece of the ad sales campaign.

And he was the one who recommended me, a couple of years later, to the mom-and-pop owners of the station where I first became an official Program Director ... which he congratulated me on by saying "who knew Chicken Rock would catch on as a format?"
 
I have to laugh at that, since my first station was owned by a guy who had deliberately put it on the air only about a year before he hired me, and to him the two best types of music were Big Band and Classical. He did a six-hour program every Saturday with the former and four hours every night of the latter. The "regular" format was a mix of Standards artists (Sinatra, Peggy Lee, etc.) plus cover versions of recent hits (Ray Conniff, Andre Kostelanetz, Percy Faith) and a couple of songs per hour from the Saturday show library.

But, except for his two special shows, the ad dollars weren't there, and by 1975 he was at his wits' end (and barely tolerating the 19-year-old he had hired, who was now doing the afternoon show). And one day I brought in my own copy of "The Last Farewell" by Roger Whittaker and played it when I knew he was in the building listening. He was pleasantly astonished ... even more so when I told him it was a current top-40 hit.

The format changed. Out went the cover vocals and instrumentals, the Big Band and Standards were restricted to songs that had been popular as currents, and only constituted about 5% of the hour. Their replacement was music by Gordon Lightfoot, the Carpenters, Simon and Garfunkel, etc. And yet he worried that the changes would alienate "his audience".

He was convinced otherwise when out of the blue a letter arrived from one of the locals addressed directly to him, thanking him for introducing them to music by "singers like that pleasant Neil Diamond". He did the smart thing and made that the centerpiece of the ad sales campaign.

And he was the one who recommended me, a couple of years later, to the mom-and-pop owners of the station where I first became an official Program Director ... which he congratulated me on by saying "who knew Chicken Rock would catch on as a format?"

I had it considerably easier than you did, K.M. At KIBS, we lost our 30 records a month trade-out with the local record store in 1972. The GM made me music director, I started working the phones, calling the labels and getting service.

At that time, the station was block-programmed...Country from 6:00-9:00 AM, old-school MOR from 9:00 AM-6:00 PM, light classical/easy listening instrumentals 6:00-7:00 PM and Top 40 from 7:00 PM-10:00 PM, when we signed off.

With the old deal with The Sound Shoppe, we rationed what we bought...5 country singles, 5 MOR (the dayparts that played those were generally very gold-heavy---less a programming decision than the tastes of the jocks) and 20 pop/rock.

When I got record service we immediately went to 100 or more new releases every week. I made a point of taking the newer material and playing it for the jocks, pointing out how the latest Carpenters, Bread, etc. could work with their library MOR stuff.

When I graduated from high school a year later, the GM made me PD. And having had that last year to warm up the MOR jocks helped a lot. I'd also been exposing them to pop/rock softer oldies from the 50s/60s, and had created two oldies libraries---"all' and "night only", so it was easy to make a full transition to AC from 9:00 AM-7:00 PM.

Most of the MOR was album cuts and I continued to maintain that library, though, over time, most of the jocks on their own decided that they preferred the more current music (and probably wanted to avoid playing records at the wrong speed so often after switching from an LP to a 45 or vice versa).

The GM did mornings and was going to play what he wanted, which was mainly older country, but he now had more current crossover material to work with. And he let me blow up the 6:00-7:00 "dinner hour".

The 9:00-10:00 AM hour was "Coffee with Virginia" and Virginia was certain "her ladies" preferred the MOR sound, but she'd work in one of the "new sounds" per day.

So, that second week of June, 1973, I essentially debuted a Top 40 playlist, heavily dayparted, so that the station sounded adult from 9:00 AM-7:00 PM, and then "became" Top 40 in the evening.

I didn't keep any of those playlists, but looking at Billboard for the week ending June 16, I can pretty much re-create:


All Dayparts (28)
Paul McCartney and Wings-My Love
Clint Holmes-Playground in My Mind
Elton John-Daniel
George Harrison-Give Me Love, Give Me Peace On Earth
Paul Simon-Kodachrome
Tony Orlando & Dawn-Tie A Yellow Ribbon
Spinners-One of a Kind (Love Affair)
Dobie Gray-Drift Away
Stevie Wonder-You Are The Sunshine of My Life
New York City-I'm Doing Fine Now
Skylark-Wildflower
Jim Croce-Bad, Bad Leroy Brown
Stealers Wheel-Stuck in the Middle With You
Bloodstone-Natural High
Vicki Lawrence-The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia
Stylistics-You'll Never Get To Heaven (If You Break My Heart)
Bette Midler-Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy
Charlie Rich-Behind Closed Doors
Loggins & Messina-Thinking of You
Carly Simon-The Right Thing To Do
Carpenters-Yesterday Once More
Tower of Power-So Very Hard To Go
Seals & Crofts-Diamond Girl
Diana Ross-Touch Me in the Morning
Helen Reddy-Delta Dawn
Gilbert O'Sullivan-Get Down
Eagles-Tequila Sunrise
Bobby Goldsboro-Summer (The First Time)


Day Only (1)
Perry Como-And I Love You So


Night Only (17)
Sylvia-Pillow Talk
Barry White-I'm Gonna Love You Just A Little More Baby
Edgar Winter Group-Frankenstein
Billy Preston-Will It Go Round In Circles
Dr. John-Right Place, Wrong Time
Doobie Brothers-Long Train Running
Three Dog Night-Shambala
Focus-Hocus Pocus
Sweet-Little Willy
Steely Dan-Reeling In the Years
Alice Cooper-No More Mr. Nice Guy
J. Geils Band-Give It To Me
Deep Purple-Smoke on the Water
Pink Floyd-Money
ELO-Roll Over Beethoven
Chicago-Feelin' Stronger Every Day
Four Tops-Are You Man Enough
 
Probably due to the seemingly endless series of Rocky sequels, the original theme song has never been licensed for use in other companies' TV commercials, and that's why it hasn't remained in the pop culture lexicon, unlike other '60s and '70s songs like "Nobody But Me", "One (is the loneliest number)", "Lovely Day", "Low Rider", etc...
 
Probably due to the seemingly endless series of Rocky sequels, the original theme song has never been licensed for use in other companies' TV commercials, and that's why it hasn't remained in the pop culture lexicon, unlike other '60s and '70s songs like "Nobody But Me", "One (is the loneliest number)", "Lovely Day", "Low Rider", etc...

That's probably a big part of it. The last thing you want to do is have your commercial's background music remind you of something other than your product.

Another reason is that often, new lyrics are written for a song licensed for that use (the incredibly annoying "Oh-oh-oh-Ozempic" comes to mind) and that's a little easier when the songs are already written with the presumption that there will be lyrics.
 
Sidebar:
You're not gonna believe this: COFFEE WITH VIRGINIA

Okay. Wow.

Obviously new Virginia doesn't have old Virginia's work ethic (three and a half years since the last post, a year between that one and the one before it).

Near as I can find, Virginia (the KIBS one) passed away 21 years ago at age 80. She did that show for at least 15 years, maybe 20, every weekday, in addition to working as a substitute schoolteacher (she'd have pre-recorded shows if she had to be in a classroom before 10:30 a.m.).

Nice lady. In fact, she's the one who recommended me to the GM and essentially got me my first gig in radio.
 
I didn't keep any of those playlists, but looking at Billboard for the week ending June 16, I can pretty much re-create:


All Dayparts (28)
Paul McCartney and Wings-My Love
Clint Holmes-Playground in My Mind
Elton John-Daniel
George Harrison-Give Me Love, Give Me Peace On Earth
Paul Simon-Kodachrome
Tony Orlando & Dawn-Tie A Yellow Ribbon
Spinners-One of a Kind (Love Affair)
Dobie Gray-Drift Away
Stevie Wonder-You Are The Sunshine of My Life
New York City-I'm Doing Fine Now
Skylark-Wildflower
Jim Croce-Bad, Bad Leroy Brown
Stealers Wheel-Stuck in the Middle With You
Bloodstone-Natural High
Vicki Lawrence-The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia
Stylistics-You'll Never Get To Heaven (If You Break My Heart)
Bette Midler-Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy
Charlie Rich-Behind Closed Doors
Loggins & Messina-Thinking of You
Carly Simon-The Right Thing To Do
Carpenters-Yesterday Once More
Tower of Power-So Very Hard To Go
Seals & Crofts-Diamond Girl
Diana Ross-Touch Me in the Morning
Helen Reddy-Delta Dawn
Gilbert O'Sullivan-Get Down
Eagles-Tequila Sunrise
Bobby Goldsboro-Summer (The First Time)


Day Only (1)
Perry Como-And I Love You So


Night Only (17)
Sylvia-Pillow Talk
Barry White-I'm Gonna Love You Just A Little More Baby
Edgar Winter Group-Frankenstein
Billy Preston-Will It Go Round In Circles
Dr. John-Right Place, Wrong Time
Doobie Brothers-Long Train Running
Three Dog Night-Shambala
Focus-Hocus Pocus
Sweet-Little Willy
Steely Dan-Reeling In the Years
Alice Cooper-No More Mr. Nice Guy
J. Geils Band-Give It To Me
Deep Purple-Smoke on the Water
Pink Floyd-Money
ELO-Roll Over Beethoven
Chicago-Feelin' Stronger Every Day
Four Tops-Are You Man Enough
There's quite a few songs in there I haven't actually heard, but I recognize most of the artists, and they are some of my favorites.

I actually wouldn't mind having an opportunity to program a mid 70s-style AC format at a proper station someday. My Podunk part 15-er will do for now, though.

And I happen to have a neighbor who likes this stuff (he's particularly fond of Bread), so I have an audience!

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I actually wouldn't mind having an opportunity to program a mid 70s-style AC format at a proper station someday. My Podunk part 15-er will do for now, though.

Actually, I find the Yacht Rock format very similar in feel to that type of AC. Of course, I'm biased since that's the first format I actually programmed as a real PD.
 
Actually, I find the Yacht Rock format very similar in feel to that type of AC. Of course, I'm biased since that's the first format I actually programmed as a real PD.

A "a mid 70s-style AC format" would be Barry Manilow, The Carpenters, Neil Diamond, etc. What is now called "Yacht Rock" really wasn't big until the late '70s.

Please note the word in my original post that I have bolded and colored. I did not use the word "exact".

And you inadvertently made my point because I programmed that AC from 1978 to 1981.
 
A "a mid 70s-style AC format" would be Barry Manilow, The Carpenters, Neil Diamond, etc. What is now called "Yacht Rock" really wasn't big until the late '70s.
As usual with formats, there is a rather wide range of actual year ranges and music types and individual songs that fit any definition. Just look at the difference between the playlists of CBS-FM in NYC and K-Earth in LA.

Can you think of any artists or specific songs from the earlier 70's that might fit "Yacht Rock" definitions?

And, as to earlier to mid 70's AC (when we did not even call it AC) we had everything from "Ben" to "Dead Skunk". Programmers had figured out that there was actually a format there, and it did not have to be a WGAR-like mostly gold based one.
 
Can you think of any artists or specific songs from the earlier 70's that might fit "Yacht Rock" definitions?

The first song that comes to mind from the station I programmed which would fit Yacht Rock is "Love Will Find A Way" by Pablo Cruise ... but that was 1978. Let's open the Whitburn book to 1975 and see what songs I think would fit:

Island Girl - Elton John (#1)
Sister Golden Hair - America (also #1)
Lyin' Eyes - Eagles (#2)
How Long - Ace (#3)
Dance With Me - Orleans (#6)
Take Me In Your Arms (Rock Me) -- Doobie Brothers (#11)
Third Rate Romance - Amazing Rhythm Aces (#14)

I'll stop there ... one year, mid-decade, top 15 as currents.
 
Can you think of any artists or specific songs from the earlier 70's that might fit "Yacht Rock" definitions?
Yacht Rock fans are pretty gatekeepy about it being a 1976-1984 phenomenon, but they do include some earlier songs which have nautical references in the lyrics, like "Ride Captain Ride" (1970) and "Brandy (You're a Fine Girl)" (1972).
 
And, as to earlier to mid 70's AC (when we did not even call it AC) we had everything from "Ben" to "Dead Skunk". Programmers had figured out that there was actually a format there, and it did not have to be a WGAR-like mostly gold based one.
A song about a rat and song about a dead skunk. :D
 
Island Girl - Elton John (#1)
That one would fit nicely into another thread here -- the one on "how did those songs get played on the radio". "Island Girl" was about a prostitute who murders her tricks and it throws racial overtones into the mix, as well. I do remember that when I was a kid one of the Seattle TV stations ran an "expose" on the song on their evening news (KIRO-TV, ch 7, then owned by the Mormon Church) and the song quickly disappeared from our local stations after that story ran.
 
That one would fit nicely into another thread here -- the one on "how did those songs get played on the radio". "Island Girl" was about a prostitute who murders her tricks and it throws racial overtones into the mix, as well.
Well, now hang on. Prostitute, yes---"murders her clients" is a tough one to prove. Neither Elton John nor Bernie Taupin ever said that and the lyrics---well:

[Verse 1]
I see your teeth flash, Jamaican honey, so sweet
Down where Lexington cross 47th Street
Oh, she's a big girl, she's standin' six-foot-three
Turnin' tricks for the dudes in the big city

[Chorus]
Island girl
What you wantin' with your white man's world?
Island girl
Black boy want you in his island world
He want to take you from your racket boss
He want to save you, but the cause is lost
Island girl, island girl, island girl
Tell me what you wantin' with your white man's world

[Verse 2]
Well, she's black as coal, but she burn like a fire
And she wrap herself around you like a well-worn tire
You feel her nail scratch your back just like a rake
Oh, he one more gone, he one more john who make the mistake

[repeat chorus]

That could simply be "succumbed to the temptation."

It's absolutely dripping in racial tropes---a ripoff of "Lady Marmalade" for those who thought that song was too subtle.

I do remember that when I was a kid one of the Seattle TV stations ran an "expose" on the song on their evening news (KIRO-TV, ch 7, then owned by the Mormon Church) and the song quickly disappeared from our local stations after that story ran.

All the way to number one for two weeks straight at both KJR and KING. And a month after leaving #1, it was number 3 at both stations.
 
I had students in my class this year who didn't know who Elton John or Michael Jackson were! 😲😲
But they sure know their TikTok influencers and rappers in the 5th grade...
 
I had students in my class this year who didn't know who Elton John or Michael Jackson were! 😲😲
But they sure know their TikTok influencers and rappers in the 5th grade...

I mean, for Elton, if you played "Hold Me Closer" with Britney Spears or "Cold Cold Heart" with Dua Lipa, you'd probably get "Oh, okay." Maybe. They're fifth graders. What? Ten years old?

Why would/should they?

His last #1 in this country was 28 years ago, and if Princess Diana had been wearing a seat belt, it would have been 31 years ago. And that was a George Michael record featuring Elton John.


Skip the AIDS benefit "That's What Friends Are For" with Dionne Warwick, Gladys Knight and Stevie Wonder and Elton's last number one record in the U.S. was 49 years ago: "Don't Go Breaking My Heart."

I was in 5th grade from the fall of 1965 to the spring of 1966. If you had asked me about a guy who was really huge in 1917, I'd have given you a blank stare too.

And Jackson died six years before they were even born. "Pop stars who died in 1949" would have been a loser for me in fifth grade, too.

Not that my grasp of the current pop moment at that time was all that great. Of the songs that hit #1 while I was in fifth grade, I was aware of "Help!" by the Beatles, "These Boots Are Made For Walkin'" by Nancy Sinatra, and the rest of it was wallpaper.
 


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