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I agree with you that the guy is a dinosaur.

Let's get one thing REAL clear. I never said Bill Lee is a dinosaur. I'm a major fan.


It's probably past time for him to get out of the business, but most of us Gen X'ers who would've been ready and eager to replace him were pushed out 20 years ago.

Both Jesse Addy, who replaced Bill in afternoon drive a year and a half ago, and John Foxx, who's getting the timeslot now, are Gen X'ers. So, no. They weren't pushed out 20 years ago. Maybe you were, but most of the high-paid talent in major market drive time slots today are Gen X'ers.
 
It looks like AM radio in the bay area has declined to the point that no one is interested in purchasing a great signal located at the preferred low end of the dial in a major market. Seriously, NO ONE seems to be interested.
I would amend that first sentence to read “no one is interested in purchasing a great signal…in a major market at the asking price for that signal. What we don’t know is the spread between the asking price and the bidding price - if there have been any bids at all. There could well be interest but it then runs into a wall of reality.

(This may be a duplicate. Wi-Fi issues,)
 
Classic rock on AM? Come on now :rolleyes:
Vancouver had CHRX 600 from 1987-1994. Although they couldn't escape the AM curse, they're still remembered fondly by listeners from Vancouver to Seattle for it's massive playlist of deep cuts, playing of new music from Classic Rock artists and great personalities. Which made up for it's AM signal for many listeners. But not enough listeners, sadly.
 
I would amend that first sentence to read “no one is interested in purchasing a great signal…in a major market at the asking price for that signal. What we don’t know is the spread between the asking price and the bidding price - if there have been any bids at all. There could well be interest but it then runs into a wall of reality.

(This may be a duplicate. Wi-Fi issues,)
Even though we have no idea of the asking price, the WHLD sale gives an indication that Cumulus is willing to cut a deal. The new owner (Buddy Shula) claims that he got a sweet deal. $150,000 that includes a brand new transmitter, fully complaint up to date towers.. but there is a supposedly hefty lease for the site.

A strong possibility would be a fire sale near the end of 365 days. At that point Cumulus might be willing to unload these AM's at a dirt cheap price. A situation of getting at least some money instead of turning in the licenses and getting nothing.
 
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A strong possibility would be a fire sale near end of 365 days. At that point Cumulus might be willing to unload these AM's at a dirt cheap price. A situation of getting at least some money instead of turning in the licenses and getting nothing.

That's a good point, since the deal Buddy made was in the aftermath of Cumulus' announcing that they were taking WHLD silent.
 
I have a significant number of the songs that would be required for any of those three formats in my archives, all broadcast-ready .wav files.
 
How about a price so low that RD members here who yearn for Gold Country, Adult Standards, and Oldies on 560, could pool their money together and buy 560 as a hobby station.

A dream come true!
When they realize it’s hard to run an AM station with those formats in The City:
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Let's get one thing REAL clear. I never said Bill Lee is a dinosaur. I'm a major fan.

I said Bill Lee is a dinosaur. In 20 years, I'll be a dinosaur, too, if I live that long. No shame in that, everyone has to be something. I hope, however, that I won't be working full-time at that point. I'd rather hand off the torch sooner.

Both Jesse Addy, who replaced Bill in afternoon drive a year and a half ago, and John Foxx, who's getting the timeslot now, are Gen X'ers. So, no. They weren't pushed out 20 years ago. Maybe you were, but most of the high-paid talent in major market drive time slots today are Gen X'ers.

Of course, some Gen X'ers still have radio jobs. The reality, however, is that, at my local Cumulus cluster, 14 programming jobs were lost between October 15, 2008 and February 15, 2009 during the Great Recession. One of those people was offered the recently vacated traffic director position. Of the remaining 13 people, 12 were my age or younger. That seemed to be the norm pretty much everywhere. If you want to argue that 15-20 more years of experience and well over a decade longer track record justifies keeping the older talent, that's fine. I can see that side. That did mean, however, that fewer qualified people are available today. What are those 12 people my age or younger doing today? Not radio.

I left full-time radio about five years before that. After the company before Cumulus told me I would be moving into an engineering position and then hired someone else for the job when the position opened, I started looking elsewhere. If Cumulus would've had me, I'd still be there 21 years later. As it went, the person they hired only stayed three years, and people there now complain their engineer lives two hours away. I haven't been interested in that job in a long time. I make about double what I would likely be making had I stayed, have a more secure position, have a pension, and have educational benefits that Cumulus doesn't offer. Why would I want that job?
 
Of course, some Gen X'ers still have radio jobs. The reality, however, is that, at my local Cumulus cluster, 14 programming jobs were lost between October 15, 2008 and February 15, 2009 during the Great Recession. One of those people was offered the recently vacated traffic director position. Of the remaining 13 people, 12 were my age or younger. That seemed to be the norm pretty much everywhere. If you want to argue that 15-20 more years of experience and well over a decade longer track record justifies keeping the older talent, that's fine. I can see that side. That did mean, however, that fewer qualified people are available today. What are those 12 people my age or younger doing today? Not radio.

I left full-time radio about five years before that. After the company before Cumulus told me I would be moving into an engineering position and then hired someone else for the job when the position opened, I started looking elsewhere. If Cumulus would've had me, I'd still be there 21 years later. As it went, the person they hired only stayed three years, and people there now complain their engineer lives two hours away. I haven't been interested in that job in a long time. I make about double what I would likely be making had I stayed, have a more secure position, have a pension, and have educational benefits that Cumulus doesn't offer. Why would I want that job?
I had wanted to get into radio when I was young, but as time went on, I kept hearing stories like this one, and then looking at what has been happening to broadcast media in general, that childhood dream has all but died.

I'd still enjoy doing something radio-related, but at this point, I doubt it'll ever happen (who knows, though; maybe things will change and it will become a viable industry once again?)

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The rock that is now "classic" didn't really work on AM when it was new ~40 years ago. It probably won't work now, unless KZAC acquires an FM translator, and even then, they'd have some well established competition on better signals.

If they're going to bother, an oldies station* along the lines of KFRC, but not would be nice to have in SF again.

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*Not gonna happen....
I was wasting a little time yesterday and did a band scan of SFBA FM. There is literally not a free frequency across the board (when one accounts for adjacents). None, nada. There is no room for any (legal) translator that I can find.
 


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