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Song you wondered how they they ever got played on Top 40 radio

I'm inclined to agree, though Klosterman makes an excellent point---history tends to be reductive, not expansive---looking for one easy story to tell rather than three.

This is the piece he wrote for the New York Times in which he lays out his theory. I've used a gift article from my subscription to make it free for everyone here to read:
It's an interesting piece, from 2016, but it doesn't seem dated. Perhaps inadvertently, he reinforced his case by mentioning:

I have zero doubt that the worldwide memory of Bob Marley will eventually have the same tenacity and familiarity as the worldwide memory of reggae itself.

Hard to argue with that.

I think the template that he's set forth has a great deal of validity, but it's the person (Chuck Berry) who he's plugged into that template that I find hard to agree with. The template itself isn't absolute, either; for example, I think most people know of Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart as classical composers. Though they do belong to different periods of time, they've been aggregated into a general "classical" category. It doesn't take much to add others: Vivaldi, for example. While classical music was an elite pursuit in its time, a time when most people were just trying to survive, it still has a breadth that most other genres haven't had. Even though rock music is far more mass-appeal, I think it has a similar breadth, if not more so. It will not reduce to a fleetingly representational subset easily.

Klosterman also makes a great point when he writes (this is in the section where he decides that Elvis Presley isn't the chosen one; I agree, for different reasons):

But removing the centrality of songwriting from the rock equation radically alters it. Rock becomes a performative art form, where the meaning of a song matters less than the person singing it.

I think we've seen that already with rock artists crossing over to do standards; and MOR artists crossing over to sing rock hits. In the latter case, the results can be cringeworthy, and these two sentences explain that kind of reaction. It hasn't seemed to work that way in the other direction, though; possibly, that's viewed as a way of honoring the artists who once were popular but who've given way to a new generation.

One quibble: I think he should have written, "Rock becomes a purely performative art form", because rock has been about performance as well as expression all along. That's increasingly the case, particularly given that the forms of music consumption have changed in a way that drives artists to focus on performing to a greater degree.

But let's say Klosterman is right that there will be a singular figure to represent the rock era. Klosterman seems a bit obsessed with the concept of transgression, both in song and in deed. That might have fit the times 50-70 years ago; it may not now. But hold that thought. I want to get to the case that I think he's inadvertently made, using his preferred yardstick of transgressiveness:

The Rolling Stones are good, even when they release records like “Bridges to Babylon.” They’ve outlived every band that ever competed against them, with career album sales exceeding the present population of Brazil. From a credibility standpoint, the Rolling Stones are beyond reproach, regardless of how they choose to promote themselves: They’ve performed at the Super Bowl, in a Kellogg’s commercial and on an episode of “Beverly Hills, 90210.” The name of the biggest magazine covering rock music was partly inspired by their sheer existence. The group members have faced arrest on multiple continents, headlined the most disastrous concert in California history and classified themselves (with surprisingly little argument) as “the greatest rock and roll band in the world” since 1969. Working from the premise that the collective memory of rock should dovetail with the artist who most accurately represents what rock music actually was, the Rolling Stones are a strong answer.

Not to mention the likelihood that Keith Richards will still be alive 300 years from now.

It's hard to match the Stones' record of transgression. Klosterman tries with Chuck Berry but, I think, stretches the point too far. Yes, there are urban legends about him. I've heard some of them. In high school, the word on the street in O'Fallon, Missouri was that your female colleagues could go to parties at his farm in nearby Wentzville only at their own peril. In other words, the message was, folks, stay away. Maybe this is why I have some distaste for him, despite his accomplishments. Hearing "My Ding-a-Ling" doesn't help. Leaving my personal reactions aside, I have to say that Led Zeppelin could fit the bill for transgressive behavior, too.

I agree with Klosterman that "Rock music is black music mainstreamed by white musicians, particularly white musicians from England. Berry is a black man who directly influenced Keith Richards and Jimmy Page." But rock is full of cultural appropriation, especially of black culture, and Berry by definition can't appropriate something he's already a part of.

One more problem I have with Klosterman's approach: he's assuming that past behavior will carry forward into the future. True, history has tended to be reductive. But, up until recently, you could argue that the reductiveness came about because knowledge required physical access that could often be difficult, with the exchange of ideas being limited and often confined to academic venues. That's changed. We all carry around little computers now that are networked. We can find things out very quickly, even the most obscure things. Sometimes, the sources for those search results aren't entirely reliable - hello, Wikipedia - and lack editing and vetting. There is more of a burden on us to evaluate the validity of assertions presented to us. (This could have been predicted by the well-known trade-off in searching between precision and recall, but I want to stay focused here.) The benefit though, is that we can get to information far more easily than ever before, assuming that copyright, political, and other nontechnical constraints don't wall off information. I think this can't help but affect how history is viewed and taught. John Phillip Souza as a representative of 19th-century march music may well be an artifact of pre-Internet limitations. Future generations will interact with history differently than we or our ancestors did, I believe. Klosterman's template makes sense if you carry past conceptualizations of history into the future, but I'm not sure that will actually happen.

So, ultimately, I think the question he asks is interesting and, ultimately, may not matter very much.
 
54 years later. I still wonder how Once You Understand by Think got so much airplay on Top 40 radio in 1971 and 1974. Here in Erie, PA, it was the #24 song of 1971's year end survey!

The record had really narrow appeal---13 year olds who thought their parents didn't understand them.

Three years later, you had a new crop of 13 year olds.

We also were a less cynical society then (see Tom Clay's "What The World Needs Now", Les Crane's "Desiderata" and Byron McGregor's "The Americans")...less willing to call dreck dreck.
 
So, ultimately, I think the question he asks is interesting and, ultimately, may not matter very much.

It won't matter at all to us or to the artists. We only know as much as we do about Classical composers because their work is still performed and broadcast today. If it weren't for Amadeus, I'd never have heard of Antonio Salieri.

If Rock stops being listened to on a mass scale (and I think we've already started down that road), people 300 years from now will have no idea whether whoever's presented to them as the avatar for the rock era was good or not.

And even if they do, it will be in a context very different from the one we lived and made our judgements in.

 
Here's one:
"Popsicle Toes" by Michael Franks. Big record on 13Q in Pittsburgh back in the 70s. Lyrically, it's just plain... weird. Same with "Telephone Man" by Meri Wilson which went to #1 on 13Q...
According to one commenter on the video, it went to #2 on 13Q...

Do I have a fault in my comparison metering system? I fully expected to see Frazier come across the video!
 
If Rock stops being listened to on a mass scale (and I think we've already started down that road), people 300 years from now will have no idea whether whoever's presented to them as the avatar for the rock era was good or not.
I think we're well down that road now, the biggest thing that's keeping rock listening alive is older stuff, what we'd consider classic rock. Grunge was polarizing, and once it ran its course there wasn't really anything popular to replace it.

As far as what people 300 years from now think of our culture, it's probably going to be as unrelatable to them as 1700s lifestyles are to us today.
 
It won't matter at all to us or to the artists. We only know as much as we do about Classical composers because their work is still performed and broadcast today. If it weren't for Amadeus, I'd never have heard of Antonio Salieri.
You ought to give Vermont Public Classical a listen. How it does so well in the Nielsens up this way (WNCH Norwich) with so many obscure names in the playlist is puzzling.

Classical Music With Helen Lyons
Playlist
  • 6:00 AM
  • TITLE:
    Song for Orchestra Op. 33
    COMPOSER:
    Ruth Gipps
    CONDUCTOR:
    Rumon Gamba
    ARTIST:
    BBC National Orchestra of Wales; ; ; ;
    ALBUM:
    GIPPS: Symphonies Nos 2 and 4 - Song for Orchestra - Knight in Armour
  • 6:07 AM
  • TITLE:
    Concerto a 5
    COMPOSER:
    Silvius Leopold Weiss
    ARTIST:
    Tempesta di Mare; Richard Stone, lute; ; ;
    ALBUM:
    Weiss: Lute Concerti
  • 6:18 AM
  • TITLE:
    Orchestral Suite #4 'Mozartiana' in G Op. 61
    COMPOSER:
    Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky
    CONDUCTOR:
    Neville Marriner
    ARTIST:
    Radio Symphony Orchestra of Stuttgart; ; ; ;
    ALBUM:
    Tchaikovsky: Suites 3 & 4 ' Mozartiana'
  • 6:44 AM
  • TITLE:
    Tintagel
    COMPOSER:
    Arnold Bax
    CONDUCTOR:
    Bryden Thomson
    ARTIST:
    Ulster Orchestra; ; ; ;
    ALBUM:
    Bax: Symphony No. 4 & Tintagel
  • 7:03 AM
  • TITLE:
    Nocturne #1 in eb Op. 33/1
    COMPOSER:
    Gabriel Faure
    ARTIST:
    ; Sally Pinkas, piano; ; ;
    ALBUM:
    Gabriel Faure: Complete Nocturnes
  • 7:11 AM
  • TITLE:
    Ancient Airs & Dances: Suite #1
    COMPOSER:
    Ottorino Respighi
    CONDUCTOR:
    Hugh Wolff
    ARTIST:
    St. Paul Chamber Orchestra; ; ; ;
    ALBUM:
    Respighi: Trittico Botticelliano - Gli Uccelli - Antiche Danze et Arie
  • 7:27 AM
  • TITLE:
    Psalm 96: Chantez a Dieu
    COMPOSER:
    Jan Pieterszoon Sweelinck
    CONDUCTOR:
    Eric A. Johnson
    ARTIST:
    Cor Cantiamo; ; ; ;
    ALBUM:
    Cor Cantiamo: Psallite
  • 7:30 AM
  • TITLE:
    Three Romances for Violin & Piano Op. 22
    COMPOSER:
    Clara Schumann
    ARTIST:
    ; Helene Boschi, piano; Annie Jodry, violin; ;
    ALBUM:
    Clara Schumann / Piano Works
  • 7:41 AM
  • TITLE:
    Concerto for Flute, Oboe, Violin, Bassoon and Continuo in e Op. 37
    COMPOSER:
    Joseph Bodin de Boismortier
    ARTIST:
    Fioritura; ; ; ;
    ALBUM:
    Vivaldi - Telemann - Boismortier
  • 7:51 AM
  • TITLE:
    Circus Overture
    COMPOSER:
    William Schuman
    CONDUCTOR:
    Gerard Schwarz
    ARTIST:
    Seattle Symphony; ; ; ;
    ALBUM:
    Schuman: Symphonies Nos. 4 and 9
  • 8:02 AM
  • TITLE:
    The Well-Tempered Clavier Book II: Prelude and Fugue #17 in Ab BWV 886
    COMPOSER:
    Johann Sebastian Bach
    ARTIST:
    ; Vladimir Feltsman, piano; ; ;
    ALBUM:
    Bach: Well-Tempered Clavier, Book II
  • 8:10 AM
  • TITLE:
    Divertimento
    COMPOSER:
    Bernhard Henrik Crusell
    ARTIST:
    Allegri String Quartet; Sarah Francis,oboe; ; ;
    ALBUM:
    Crusell/Kreutzer/Reicha Oboe Quintets
  • 8:21 AM
  • TITLE:
    Dancas Nativas: Reflective Cancao
    COMPOSER:
    Clarice Assad
    ARTIST:
    Aquarelle Guitar Quartet; ; ; ;
    ALBUM:
    Spirit of Brazil
  • 8:27 AM
  • TITLE:
    Symphony #52 in D
    COMPOSER:
    Franz Xaver Richter
    CONDUCTOR:
    Matthias Bamert
    ARTIST:
    London Mozart Players; ; ; ;
    ALBUM:
    RICHTER: Symphonies
 
You ought to give Vermont Public Classical a listen. How it does so well in the Nielsens up this way (WNCH Norwich) with so many obscure names in the playlist is puzzling.
Interesting. The Classical genre is much more varied than most people seem to realize, but apparently some people up in Vermont figured it out and are enjoying it immensely.

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Not any questionable words:

How in the world did anyone with any knowledge of Chicago history or geography play Paperlace's "The Night Chicago Died".

IIRC the Eastside of Chicago would be Lake Michigan and I have never heard of a gun battle between The Chicago PD and Al Capone.

IMHO the song sounds like it came out of a bad musical.
Also, there's not much area that you could call "South Detroit" in "Don't Stop Believing'" by Journey. There is a very small part of Chicago as I recall, that is geographically East, on the South Side, East of the dividing line between West and East addresses.
 
Steve Perry himself has admitted that there is no such place:

"I was digging the idea of how the lights were facing down so that you couldn’t see anything," Perry told New York Magazine. "All of a sudden I’d see people walking out of the dark, and into the light. And the term ‘streetlight people’ came to me. So Detroit was very much in my consciousness when we started writing."

Perry goes on to say that he took poetic license, creating the fictitious location 'South Detroit.'

"I ran the phonetics of east, west, and north, but nothing sounded as good or emotionally true to me as 'South Detroit,'" Perry said. "The syntax just sounded right. I fell in love with the line. It’s only been in the last few years that I’ve learned that there is no South Detroit. But it doesn’t matter."
 
I remember "El Paso" referred to the "Badlands of New Mexico". Great song. The first #1 of the 60s. Also it was used on "Breaking Bad", in the last episode. But I was told that the Badlands were in South Dakota. Apparently there is more than one area called Badlands.
 
Also, there's not much area that you could call "South Detroit" in "Don't Stop Believing'" by Journey. There is a very small part of Chicago as I recall, that is geographically East, on the South Side, East of the dividing line between West and East addresses.
There are a few blocks of "East" from a couple miles north of downtown to just south of Soldier Field. But most of the area east of State St. is further south than that, from about Cermak Rd. to the southern city limits at 138th St.
 
Linda Ronstadt's standards albums were probably the best of the bunch.
Linda Ronstadt listened to all kinds of music from a very early age. While it is not clear, Linda could be listening to the radio in the picture linked below. The rifles on the wall and the ski pole suggest that this picture could have been taken at one of her maternal grandfather's houses in Southeastern Michigan. Many hunting areas and ski areas were near his farm. Her grandfather, Lloyd Groff Copeman, was an avid inventor, with around 700 patents. Anybody recognize the radio, manufacturer, etc.?

 
Ron O’Brien used that nickname at KFI.
I talked to Big Ron O'Brien one Night when I was DXing KFI in Michigan, circa 1979-1980. He lived in Southgate when he worked at WCAR The Giant 1130, and could barely hear WJBK...WLQV 1500 with its 12 tower array at Night, about a mile away from where he lived. I mainly remembered him from Big 10 WCFL.
 
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Ron O'Brien worked at WOGL when I listened to him. He was off the air for quite some time, and no one knew what happened. Some thought he was on vacation. It turned out he died. He was a great personality.
 
I've read through most of these. Hope it wasn't mentioned. But, I was curious about "19" by Paul Hardcastle. This song was everywhere in the spring/summer of 1985. I remember thinking as dark and depressing as it was, it was also huge in the clubs and I remember seeing breakers bustin some fun, crazy moves to this song.... yay, Vietnam! (sarcasm) Lol
 
And there's "Angie Baby", which hints at a mentally ill girl possibly abducting someone and keeping him as a "secret lover".

What is really interesting about "Angie Baby," is that it was written by Alan O'Day before he hit it big himself with "Undercover Angel." According to an interview I heard with Mr. O'Day back in the 1970s, "Angie Baby," was originally titled "Angie's Baby," and was supposed to have been about a girl who became a teenage mother after her boyfriend snuck into her room one night and had sex with her. According to Alan, Helen read the lyrics and told him that she couldn't sing a song like that and demanded that he changed the lyrics to have a different ending. Which he did and the song went to #1 in the U.S.
 
The topic is “Songs you wondered how they ever got played on Top 40 radio”, not “Name every mildly racy song that became a hit.”

For example: I was surprised at how fast and how universal Top 40 accepted Elton John's "The Bitch is Back".

The only sorta-precedent for it was that *some* (by no means all) Top 40s flipped "Brown Sugar" (usually at night) and played "Bitch", but the vast majority of them didn't say the title, which in 1974 was not a word used in polite company, much less on the radio (outside FM rockers) on a regular basis.

I was at KSLY in San Luis Obispo, and for the first week, I made a point of not front-selling it, and on the back, I did this:

ELTON: "Bitch!"

ME: "WHAT??"

ELTON: "Bitch!"

ME: "Oh!"

ELTON "The bitch is back..."

ME: That's the title folks. Elton John on K-S-L-Y..."


By week two it seemed silly, I just said it and we never really had an issue.

I'm sure some stations sat out (it peaked at #4 in Billboard, when the previous two records had been #2 and #1) but there didn't seem to be a lot of debate for most of the country.

What's funny about "The Bitch Is Back," is that one of the lines in the song's second verse became even more controversial than the song's title; to wit:

"I get high in the evening sniffing pots of glue."

There were stories around that time (I remember my parents talking about them) about teenagers who started sniffing glue at parties as a means to get high because of that line.
 


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