Well some of the acts are closer to playing the state fair circuit rather than stadiums...
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Bad Bunny Super Bowl Halftime
- Thread starter TheBigA
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Remember that the choices are made by Jay Z.
And his musical universe does not include country or rock. His musical vision is purely rhythmic. No easily comprehended, danceable beat? That's not music. Instrumental virtuosity? Unnecessary, a synthesized loop on a computer can do it better and cheaper.
No one is forcing anyone to listen to it.
I'm sure he'll put on a great show, visually impressive and exciting, and regardless of language, there's a gut-level appeal to his music that transcends that language barrier. I'm not going to watch the Turning Point white -- I mean alternative --- halftime show even if George Strait were to be part of it. I've seen his full shows many times. I don't need to see him rehash three old hits again, especially at his age.
Well, George has had more than three old hits, but...
The simple truth is that Strait has always shied away from the sort of spectacle that the halftime show usually has. He's not big on laser light shows, explosions, dancers, having marching bands play along with his hits, and doing anything other than standing on stage and singing. Nothing against him (he is "the King" after all), but he's just not the right choice for a halftime show.
Even lower than that. Last I heard, Lee Greenwood was working the Branson, Missouri theater scene, which is the "he's still alive?" circuit.
My comment stands intact doesn't it?
I was referring to the number of songs he'd be performing as the Turning Point headliner, assuming that the headliner there would get about as much stage time as Bad Bunny will get in the Super Bowl show. Of course, if the Turning Point people want to put on a four-hour show to keep people's eyes off the entire Super Bowl, than yeah, the headliner would get to do at least an hour of hits.
Fair enough. That said, I'm wondering if TPUSA even knows how much is involved in putting on a 4 hour show with multiple artists on the bill. I'd guess (based on the quality of the Daily Wire's movie output) that they still haven't got the whole "entertainment" thing sussed out.
Can they find anyone that appeals to a young crowd that TPUSA claims, although apparently "young" in the GOP extends to 40?
you'd think he's alive on well if you only watch FNC
Sean Hannity also produced a produced a low budget straight to streaming "Christmas" movie, only available to digitally b uy not rent
Oh I think there's definitely some folks in that area (I've heard it called the "manosphere") who can bring in eyeballs to a podcast or an event like a TPUSA conference, but a musical artist with the same level of world-wide appeal of Bad Bunny? Not so much.
Gloria Estefan, Brian Boitano, Dorothy Hamill, and the Minnesota Marching Band as the performers.
Yeah, I was probably one of those that tuned into In Living Color that day.
Did Estefan sing anything in Spanish on that show, or did she stick to her English-language hits? Was there the same resistance from the far right to her performing at the Super Bowl that Bad Bunny is encountering today, or was hers a different case because she was an anti-Castro Cuban-American?Gloria Estefan, Brian Boitano, Dorothy Hamill, and the Minnesota Marching Band as the performers.
Yeah, I was probably one of those that tuned into In Living Color that day.
None of the above.
The group's name, before she self-identified, was "Miami Sound Machine" so it was not instantly identified as American.
There was no social media in that early 80's period. It was not possible to find out that Gloria and her husband were even Cuban-Americans with ease. And nobody, even those like myself who knew her (and Emilio) well had any idea of whether they were "Anti-Castro".
The name "Gloria" does not sound Cuban. The name "Estefan" does not sound a lot like a Latin American name as most unknowing people are not familiar at all with the name.
And the Spanish language songs were not, at the beginning, picked up on English language top 40 stations. When Miami Sound Machine did remotes for me at WHTT, they were often seen in our same offices as sister Y-100. Yet Y-100 picked up on the group when they decided to do songs in English.
And there was no thing called "far right" 45 years... nearly a half-century... ago to qualify or disqualify artists based on their politics. In fact, conservatives were very anti-Castro and Kennedy gained considerable support due to his blockade against the Russians.
I was referring to 1992, when she was on the halftime show, not the '80s, when the Sound Machine had most of their hits. Clinton would win the White House that November, and what would become the Tea Party movement was beginning to stir. Two years later, there definitely was a far right, and it flexed its muscles in that year's midterms.
But yes, JFK was very much anti-Castro, and anti-Communist. It was his youth and his positions on domestic social issues that won him liberal support.
The big hits began in 1983-94 with "Eyes of Innocence" which went national. The prior albums in the earlier 80s, Rio and Otra Vez, were all Spanish. It took Dr. Beat in 1984 to make the group a legitimate crossover....
"Dr. Beat" is the first international single released by the American band Miami Sound Machine, led by Cuban-American singer Gloria Estefan, on their first English language, but eighth overall, studio album, Eyes of Innocence. (Wikipedia and confirmed by my relationship with Emilio)
Note that MSM was much bigger outside the U.S.
"Dr. Beat" was not quite as popular in the US as some of Miami Sound Machine's later singles, only peaking at number 17 on the Billboard Hot Dance Club Play chart. However, it became one of the group's biggest international hits
Keep in mind that most of the first all-Spanish albums were done in the fashion that many artists, such as in country and soul / R6B, did to sell at their events and at clubs. However, since both of them were "Miamense" and were totally and fully bilingual over 20 years after the start of the Cuban diaspora, moving into English was a natural. In fact, in most of Latin America English pop sold better than Spanish language material.
While incomplete, and missing some songs that were very big outside the U.S., we can easily see that most of the biggest hits were in the 80's, and the group was sort of "in decline" by the 90's. Of course, in 1995 Emilia along with Gloria took over the administration of Shakira Isabel Mebarak Ripoll, better known as just "Shakira" and made her into a blonde and an international superstar.
At that time, in the 60's, the whole nation was afraid of Russia and did not want them to have a base in Cuba. When Kennedy was in office we still had CONELRAD where stations would all switch to either 640 and 1240 so the Russians could not track their missiles on any specific city or station. Fear and hatred of Russia and communism was bipartisan.