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1110 New Format

amos1001 said:
Although this has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING, I find it curious that WHKY has a null over GASTONIA in their nighttime pattern, just like WBT.
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Yeah, that is kinda odd, both nulling Gaaaastoooonia, as Leo Kirkendal would say.

amos1001 said:
Funny how a thread about what we wondered about a potential new format for 1110 has come this far.
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Yeah, it's been derailed a few times, which has helped it along. :D)

amos1001 said:
But yeah, even if 1290 and 1110 simulcasted, the Gastonia area isn't served.
But people who are speculating that WHKY would somehow want to move to 1110, that would simply be WHKY buying 1110. There would be no reason to shut down 1290. And U1 has put the LAND up for sale, not the station, meaning the land has more value than the station. I would imagine if a non competitive company (BBN, EMF, etc) were to offer U1 more for the station than the land will sell for that would work. But apparently that's not happening. It actually would only need to be more than 40% of what the land would sell for, because Beasley gets 60% if they sell the land. If they sell the station, Beasley still would own the land other than under the towers and building.
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All true, as well.
 
IM42A said:
I've wondered the same thing. That is a lot of listeners both stations are losing.
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Of course there is a snowballs chance of this happening but I believe a directional pattern similar to WFLI's daytime pattern aimed at Charlotte would work from Hickory. If you "reverse" 1290's direction east instead of west wouldn't be bad.
 
IM42A said:
You're right, I can see that now from radio-locator.com. That wouldn't be workable.

Scratch everything I said about 1110 being workable for WHKY (unless they could somehow simulcast on 1290, but then what would be the real point of having 1110?).
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1110 would be a Charlotte station. Charlotte has over 900,000 population last estimate. The total market is almost 2.5 million Charlotte is one of the fastest growing cities in America. Radio market #21.

Hickory in in Catawba county population around 173,000
 
fybush said:
It's a pretty safe assumption that the 1110 site is worth several million dollars just for the land alone.
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If i understand the Beasley/R1 contract there's nothing to prevent R1(U1) from selling 1110 (license, towers, transmitter) but not the Beasley owned land. And if the land is sold, Beasley gets 60% of the land's proceeds. SO if U1 could sell the station for more than 40% of whatever the land will bring (how much is 40% of several million?) that would be desired, right? And if that were to happen, Beasley would still own the land just like now.
What would WBT bring if it were sold, either as a stand alone or if they had packaged it with 100.9 and 99.3?
The reason I ask this is none of us "armchair quarterbacks" ever thought they would shut it down just to sell the land. Consider, for example, the land the WSB tower is on (Northeast Atlanta) is obviously very valuable. So far they haven't shut off 750 to sell that property.
 
amos1001 said:
If i understand the Beasley/R1 contract there's nothing to prevent R1(U1) from selling 1110 (license, towers, transmitter) but not the Beasley owned land. And if the land is sold, Beasley gets 60% of the land's proceeds. SO if U1 could sell the station for more than 40% of whatever the land will bring (how much is 40% of several million?) that would be desired, right? And if that were to happen, Beasley would still own the land just like now.
What would WBT bring if it were sold, either as a stand alone or if they had packaged it with 100.9 and 99.3?
The reason I ask this is none of us "armchair quarterbacks" ever thought they would shut it down just to sell the land. Consider, for example, the land the WSB tower is on (Northeast Atlanta) is obviously very valuable. So far they haven't shut off 750 to sell that property.
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WSB did have a shopping center built on it's land. The buildings are tied into the grounding system. The foot print of the actual transmitter building and tower in the parking lot and not as big as a convince store with gas pumps (not counting Buckees) I guess you could put a drive thru there.
 
secondchoice said:
WSB did have a shopping center built on it's land. The buildings are tied into the grounding system. The foot print of the actual transmitter building and tower in the parking lot and not as big as a convince store with gas pumps (not counting Buckees) I guess you could put a drive thru there.
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That's the answer! Build a Buckees on that 19 acre Nations Ford Rd site! :ROFLMAO:
Back to Atlanta, I hope the value of a Dutch Brothers doesn't exceed the value of AM 750. Depend On It!
 
amos1001 said:
People don't believe this but it's true.
Charlotte has more people than Atlanta.
Charlotte population = 982,070*
Atlanta population = 534,000*



*not metro
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Yes, that is true, the city of Atlanta proper is not all that big. However, and I suspect everyone here knows this, it is the core of a metro area that stretches as far as 50 miles in several different directions, you basically drive from one suburb to another in what seems like an endless succession. OTOH, if you drive 25 miles outside of Charlotte, you're basically in the country. The Charlotte metro area is more compact (though that's changing) and not nearly as populous as the sprawling Atlanta metro area.
 
amos1001 said:
That's the answer! Build a Buckees on that 19 acre Nations Ford Rd site! :ROFLMAO:
Back to Atlanta, I hope the value of a Dutch Brothers doesn't exceed the value of AM 750. Depend On It!
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The last time anyone who had some kind of connection with WSB was quoted, I believe they said 750 was 8 to 10% of WSB's audience. They also carried Trump's Impeachment on 750 allowing them to keep their regular stuff going on 95.5.

BTW 95.5 sometimes gets tropoed on the far north side. It happens in Pickens county which has had a couple of PPM units sometimes. It always seems to happen when I am headed to the Airport. I always like to know what the traffic is before I leave so 750 has value to me.
 
amos1001 said:
People don't believe this but it's true.
Charlotte has more people than Atlanta.
Charlotte population = 982,070*
Atlanta population = 534,000*



*not metro
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Wow, whodathunkit. I'm serious, spent the first thirty years of my life in NC and I had no idea. Thanks, Amos.
 
amos1001 said:
If i understand the Beasley/R1 contract there's nothing to prevent R1(U1) from selling 1110 (license, towers, transmitter) but not the Beasley owned land. And if the land is sold, Beasley gets 60% of the land's proceeds. SO if U1 could sell the station for more than 40% of whatever the land will bring (how much is 40% of several million?) that would be desired, right? And if that were to happen, Beasley would still own the land just like now.
What would WBT bring if it were sold, either as a stand alone or if they had packaged it with 100.9 and 99.3?
The reason I ask this is none of us "armchair quarterbacks" ever thought they would shut it down just to sell the land. Consider, for example, the land the WSB tower is on (Northeast Atlanta) is obviously very valuable. So far they haven't shut off 750 to sell that property.
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Backtracking a bit, sorry. From this armchair, of course, wonder what R1/U1 is up to or what will happen. Both are rhetorical questions, hence the punctuation difference.
 
secondchoice said:
WSB did have a shopping center built on it's land. The buildings are tied into the grounding system. The foot print of the actual transmitter building and tower in the parking lot and not as big as a convince store with gas pumps (not counting Buckees) I guess you could put a drive thru there.
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Really, never knew that either. Slightly off-topic, I understand ground has been broken on Mebane's Buckee's, should be up by the end of next year, I believe that's right. A friend described Buckee's as a mall gas station and boy is he right, it's a mad house!
 
IM42A said:
Yes, that is true, the city of Atlanta proper is not all that big. However, and I suspect everyone here knows this, it is the core of a metro area that stretches as far as 50 miles in several different directions, you basically drive from one suburb to another in what seems like an endless succession. OTOH, if you drive 25 miles outside of Charlotte, you're basically in the country. The Charlotte metro area is more compact (though that's changing) and not nearly as populous as the sprawling Atlanta metro area.
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Even though I don't drive, for obvious reasons, I do know that all of the above is definitely true, from personal experience.
 
secondchoice said:
The last time anyone who had some kind of connection with WSB was quoted, I believe they said 750 was 8 to 10% of WSB's audience. They also carried Trump's Impeachment on 750 allowing them to keep their regular stuff going on 95.5.

BTW 95.5 sometimes gets tropoed on the far north side. It happens in Pickens county which has had a couple of PPM units sometimes. It always seems to happen when I am headed to the Airport. I always like to know what the traffic is before I leave so 750 has value to me.
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I used to listen to Bob & Sheri on the way to work traveling from Charlotte to Monroe. 107.9 got tropoed too. Completely covered up.
 


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