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100.3 The Beat flipping?

the still have KMJM and KATZ-AM that are Black Formatted. so why would they give an F that one Station got Blown up. what next CC Blows up KLOU the Oldies/Classic Hits freaks come out and cry if that happens. or the Kiddies cry if they blow up KSLZ
 
Mike said:
im wondering does the NAACP of st louis go after clear channel of st louis for blowing up 100.3 the beat ?
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And Since when does the NAACP have a say on how a radio company programs their radio stations. Emmis doesnt have any black formatted stations in St Louis. Has the NAACP gone after them, or how bout CBS Radio. no black formated stations in the St Louis Cluster either.
 
also, a former DJ at the station suspects racism in the impending format flip.

see thats what i mean by the NAACP getting into this
 
People, this is not about race!!, it is about cash flow!! If the current format is not selling it is time to do something else. Lots of Urban stations change formats. It is all about the revenue. I don't live in ST, Louis, but have traveled through there. It must have been a bad sounding radio station for them to change it. Maybe it was not selling. I am sure there are other Urban stations to listen to like 104.1. They are doing great, why not listen to that instead of crying over 100.3?
 
As much as I am not a fan of Clear Channel. They really aren't doing anything wrong. The lastest ratings show KATZ-FM being the least performed FM station in the Clear Channel group (KLOU is 2nd best?). If Clear Channel thought St. Louis was ready for a format change KATZ-FM would've been the best one to pick. Even though it does have great history with the Black community in St. Louis, that means diddly squat to Clear Channel. It is a shame in that aspect but it does make sense from a business point of view.

However I don't think St. Louis needs another rock station. It already has KSHE and KPNT to compete with and they are heritage stations in St. Louis. It would take a lot to over throw these guys and I don't think Clear Channel's got what it takes to do that.
 
I remember KATZ 1600 from the whole decade of the 60s. Wasn't there a store with a black cat called KATZ? I think it was a drug store. I bought some records there back in 1963. and KSTL 690 was right below the Eads Bridge or maybe the MacArthur bridge. not sure.
 
JohnnyOhJohnny said:
I remember KATZ 1600 from the whole decade of the 60s. Wasn't there a store with a black cat called KATZ? I think it was a drug store. I bought some records there back in 1963.
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Katz became Skaggs, which later became Jewel Osco and eventually became Albertsons. I believe some of those stores may be Shop 'n Save now, but I'm not sure. I don't believe it ever had any relationship to KATZ 1600.
 
All the Katz stores in St. Louis were purchased by Walgreens.


Kent said:
JohnnyOhJohnny said:
I remember KATZ 1600 from the whole decade of the 60s. Wasn't there a store with a black cat called KATZ? I think it was a drug store. I bought some records there back in 1963.
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Katz became Skaggs, which later became Jewel Osco and eventually became Albertsons. I believe some of those stores may be Shop 'n Save now, but I'm not sure. I don't believe it ever had any relationship to KATZ 1600.
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For crying out loud, isnt it a little late to play the race card? Clear Channel didn't invest in the station because it wasn't making money..forget all this crap about positive things in the "Hip Hop" community--what a pathetic smoke screen..if some of the jocks saw it coming, did any of them think about hitting up allaccess.com and seeing what else was out there?
 
Mike said:
im wondering does the NAACP of st louis go after clear channel of st louis for blowing up 100.3 the beat ?
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As an African American (let me make that clear so no one can can try to jump to conclusions, blame anyone, or make assumptions if they don't like or don't wish to believe what I'm about to say), and my first time posting in this section, I'll just say what I've been saying in many other portions of the board. As a matter of fact, I've said enough to the point where I don't have to talk about the hip hop phase and time in music is currently coming to a close, I can just copy and paste!!!

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MUSIC FORMATS / TRENDS
Lastly, as my first post in the Nevada section, I want to point something out that most people fail to recognize or notice. Times change, and so do trends. With each generation, things come and go. Whenever something else "dies", there is always something else.. the next big thing to take its place. This also tends to happen in music. Notice the phases we've been through so far; Blues, Jazz, Rock n Roll, Disco, the short lived multiple boy/girl band pop group...etc phases. This all came before the hip hop generation (who have NOW become the parents and are a part of a generation / trend that is CURRENTLY COMING TO A CLOSE)! So of course, as the hip hop generation or time period comes to a close, urban (or urban sounding) formats that don't adapt to the change will begin to suffer, unless they take action and change with the times (without waiting for everyone else to do it first). Saying that the hip hop generation is coming to a close DOES NOT mean hip hop is dead and that you wont hear any more hip hop hits, it just means that that sound is no longer what's dominating the charts. We are currently in a transitional phase, where we are in between a past generation sound and the "next big thing" to come in music, so of course top 40 and rhythmic will do well because they play the hits, and whether or not people know what the next big sound in music will be, it's guaranteed that whatever it is, it will become the hits. So, in conclusion, hip hop, just like every other phase and generation sound in music has or will eventually do, is currently coming to a close. Even the artists themselves see this, which explains why many of them are abandoning "their genre" and changing with the times. So unless you are in denial and are considering rapping or singing on house and electronic beats a "new style of hip hop", you'll see that hip hop has already passed its peak and had its time. "We" had a good run, which we should be happy about to be a huge part in music history, but all things must change and we move on. Something new is on the way, so get ready and prepare yourself as the next generation of sound comes.

At some point, hip hoppers will be able to enjoy their generation through the form of CLASSIC hip hop (hint hint), the same way classic rockers did (and continue to do) once the rock & roll era came to an end. Top 40 and rhythmic formats will always be moving on and changing with the times, and whatever formats that cater specifically or mainly to whatever the big sound of a certain era is will always begin to struggle to some degree once that era of sound is "over" (with exception to a few markets that heavily thrive upon that sound due to demographics). Do you remember what top 40 sounded like just 15 - 20 years ago today? COMPLETELY different from now! Well, we're currently transitioning once again... just wait and see what 2015-2020 will sound like, on whatever you are listening to music on at the time.

Whatever KVEG is doing to change with the times that seems odd now, it's because they see what's happening, and want to adapt before it becomes too late. Soon, if not already, you'll begin to notice mid to late 90's and early 2000's hip hop dominating old school / back in the day mix shows (the same way dance, freestyle, and some retro did while hip hop was taking over) as the next big sound is played in regular rotation.
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Yes, I know that that is geared towards the Nevada section, but you get the idea. Now, me saying that rock n roll generation has already passed, that doesn't mean i'm
A. Knocking the rock / alternative format, or
B. Saying there is no more room for a current version of that sound in 2009.

But I'll just say this: Everyone knows that top 40 / rhythmic (not urban..jazz..spanish top 40..etc) is the big thing today, and what's great about top 40 is that all the people who are afraid to acknowledge the fact that we're going towards an electronic / dance sound and trend can benefit by covering it all up by calling it all "top 40 / pop hits".
 
....And lastly, with that being said, if anyone wants to try to go against Clearchannel (for dumb reasons), let them. People have the right to be stupid. I'm sure as always, the illusion of time will continue to move on, people will get over it, and people will continue to live.

All Things Must Change.
 
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