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100.3 Urban AC Pirate

aaronread said:
However, depending on how many watts the pirate is using, you might easily find listeners to WBRS 100.1 receiving interference inside WBRS's contour.

WBRS is a grandfathered Class D FM. I thought stations in that class were no longer granted any protection by the FCC whatsoever. I don't know if it matters whether it's being protected from a legal station, or from a pirate.
 
Of course a Class D gets protection from a pirate. Any legal station is supposed to get protection from pirates. The FCC protects legal stations from interference by other legal stations to the 54 dBu contour. Based on what the FCC is doing now, legal stations have no protection from pirates. That's why new pirates pop up every week. I bet the next pirate station will be 87.7 or 87.9.
WROR should complain that it had bad HD reception because of Touch 106.1.
To rapking and others who like Urban AC in Boston: There are so many streaming Urban AC stations online. Touch's webstream could be legal if it pays the royalties (we don't know if it does or not). Stations with a power similar to Touch 106.1 seem to get a wider audience online.
 
@WLYNGM, As I said, everyone has a right to they own opinion. I see that with your words, you seem to have no respect for (yourself) putting everyone down.
Just because we like a particular station, it don't make us bad people. I'm not bad like that. I'm a regular person who put on a radio, I hear something I like, and I listen to it. I'm not a bad person like that.
Please stop judging us who like this music and these stations, we are not bad like that. WE put on the radio, we hear what we like, it cater to us, so we listen to it. Nothing bad there
Pleaase stop judging us like that, you don't know me, I don't know you, but seeing your words and responces here on many of these related topics, it seem like you have no respect for others. Keep your bad thoughts in your head, don't say bad thoughts about me.
I am not bad like that
I'm a hard worker and do good to others
 
LAUROJRM said:
@WLYNGM, As I said, everyone has a right to they own opinion. I see that with your words, you seem to have no respect for (yourself) putting everyone down.
Just because we like a particular station, it don't make us bad people. I'm not bad like that. I'm a regular person who put on a radio, I hear something I like, and I listen to it. I'm not a bad person like that.
Please stop judging us who like this music and these stations, we are not bad like that. WE put on the radio, we hear what we like, it cater to us, so we listen to it. Nothing bad there
Pleaase stop judging us like that, you don't know me, I don't know you, but seeing your words and responces here on many of these related topics, it seem like you have no respect for others. Keep your bad thoughts in your head, don't say bad thoughts about me.
I am not bad like that
I'm a hard worker and do good to others

He was just raising a valid question, not judging those who like the music. The average listener doesn't realize that what they are listening to is an illegal operation. You, as someone who claims to be employed by a broadcast company, SHOULD know better. You say that WLYN GM has no respect for others, how about you? This industry puts money in your pocket and then you announce your support of an illegal operation? Where's the respect for radio from you?
 
Rapking and LAUROJRM why don't you guys get together and start a company to look into starting a legal urban AC station in the Boston Market. You could look for venture capitalist's or people who share you desire for a station of this format to invest. It would take a lot of hard work, and sacrifice on your part but if something is really important to you it is worth it. You could start by renting time on an AM station and use the revenue you generate from selling ads to local businesses around your neighborhood on your leased time and your investors to purchase a legal station to do with what you wish. If there is really a strong desire for this format in the market you should have no problem finding people to invest. You could hire a company to do surveys to find out how many people would listen to this type of format and bring that to a bank or a venture capital firm to show them that you have a product that no one else is offering and that you have a large segement of the population that say they would listen. This would take a lot of hard work and probably wouldnt happen overnight, you would also have to invest your life savings, mortgage any property you own and have to ask your friends and families to invest thier savings into it, you may also end up failing and losing everything, but anything worth doing is worth working hard for. You would also have the satisfaction is knowing that you went about it the proper and legal way and that by doing it the proper and legal way that you are REALLY serving the community.
 
There you go making sense again punx! This has been suggested time and
time again. They will never do it, due to that sense of entitlement: the world
(the radio industry in this case...) owes me. It was the same deal with the local
supporters of "liberal talk". They make inflated claims that the public at large is
clamoring for a format, but will do absolutely nothing to further that agenda.
They would rather whine. A handful of people who bemoan the lack of "their" format
does not influence anybody who is in the position to do anything about it. Listening to
a particular station does not make somebody a "bad person". Openly encouraging illegal
behavior does, as you are then a poor role model for your own community.

If there is, in fact, such a groundswell of support for a particular format, it should be
easy to come up with the capital to get it going. If there is community and advertiser
support, it should be relatively easy to keep it going. In business, the only that that really
matters are results. Bottom line: not gonna happen.

To suggest to these wannabe's and never-were's a legal way to accomplish their objective,
is like arguing with a drunk. You can make perfect sense - they will never get it...
You wanna hear a bunch of songs that you personally like, get an IPod...
 
WLYNgm said:
There you go making sense again punx! This has been suggested time and
time again. They will never do it, due to that sense of entitlement: the world
(the radio industry in this case...) owes me. It was the same deal with the local
supporters of "liberal talk". They make inflated claims that the public at large is
clamoring for a format, but will do absolutely nothing to further that agenda.
They would rather whine. A handful of people who bemoan the lack of "their" format
does not influence anybody who is in the position to do anything about it. Listening to
a particular station does not make somebody a "bad person". Openly encouraging illegal
behavior does, as you are then a poor role model for your own community.

If there is, in fact, such a groundswell of support for a particular format, it should be
easy to come up with the capital to get it going. If there is community and advertiser
support, it should be relatively easy to keep it going. In business, the only that that really
matters are results. Bottom line: not gonna happen.

To suggest to these wannabe's and never-were's a legal way to accomplish their objective,
is like arguing with a drunk. You can make perfect sense - they will never get it...
You wanna hear a bunch of songs that you personally like, get an IPod...
Let me repeat myself ." Boston Need a Urban A/C Format station. More Urban A/C Pirate stations will pop up in Boston, Until a real Legal Boston Urban A/C sign on. Ipods,CD's,VH-One Soul, and Satellite Radio are cool, but there is nothing local about them". The R&B Pirates are on, Alot of Folk are listening to them. Boston Need a Legal Urban A/C station.
 
You can repeat all you like with your inarticulate arguments, poor spelling, and bad grammar.
Boston does not need this - you want it. It has been done, and it did not work...
Which part do you not understand? Get a clue!
 
WLYNgm said:
You can repeat all you like with your inarticulate arguments, poor spelling, and bad grammar.
Boston does not need this - you want it. It has been done, and it did not work...
Which part do you not understand? Get a clue!
Why are soooo Many people are listening to these Pirates??? Boston need a Urban A/C legal Station . I find it amazing, that some of you folks on this site,are supporting legal stations like 92.9,93.7,1090, and any Jack Crap format, that kickin' your a$$ to the Unemployment line. Thank God I saw the future of Radio, and I walk away from my Radio Job !
 
rapking said:
Why are soooo Many people are listening to these Pirates???

Exactly how many is that? Does Arbitron rate the pirates, and if not, how do you know how many are listening? Inquiring minds want to know.

rapking said:
Boston need a Urban A/C legal Station .

No. How many more times will this have to be explained to you? People actually do live happy, fulfilled lives without an urban A/C station. No one needs it.

rapking said:
I find it amazing, that some of you folks on this site,are supporting legal stations like 92.9,93.7,1090, and any Jack Crap format, that kickin' your a$$ to the Unemployment line. Thank God I saw the future of Radio, and I walk away from my Radio Job !

Rapking's vision of the future of radio: Break the law because you don't like the radio stations available to listen to. Watch your back for the rest of your life and hope you don't get raided, your equipment confiscated and destroyed and your butt thrown in jail. Wind up with a felony conviction on your record for the rest of your life. Some future. Is there anything...or everything...wrong with this picture?

Would you openly support a murderer, a rapist or a child molester? Every time you post on this topic you make it very plain who your friends are.
 
dumber than a box of hair said:
rapking said:
Why are soooo Many people are listening to these Pirates???

Exactly how many is that? Does Arbitron rate the pirates, and if not, how do you know how many are listening? Inquiring minds want to know.

rapking said:
Boston need a Urban A/C legal Station .

No. How many more times will this have to be explained to you? People actually do live happy, fulfilled lives without an urban A/C station. No one needs it.

rapking said:
I find it amazing, that some of you folks on this site,are supporting legal stations like 92.9,93.7,1090, and any Jack Crap format, that kickin' your a$$ to the Unemployment line. Thank God I saw the future of Radio, and I walk away from my Radio Job !

Rapking's vision of the future of radio: Break the law because you don't like the radio stations available to listen to. Watch your back for the rest of your life and hope you don't get raided, your equipment confiscated and destroyed and your butt thrown in jail. Wind up with a felony conviction on your record for the rest of your life. Some future. Is there anything...or everything...wrong with this picture?

Would you openly support a murderer, a rapist or a child molester? Every time you post on this topic you make it very plain who your friends are.
When was the last time a Pirate station Rape or killed someone ( NEVER )?If you going to compare Pirate Radio stations with criminals, compare them with Sports players on Steriod( Pats Harrison on the juice, Who cares, We win superbowls. Pirate stations, who cares, they play music that legal stations will not play ). My Future of Radio is back in the past ( Pre-Act of 96 ) when Radio ownership was local . You may not like it, But alot of people are listening to there Pirate stations. I visit alot of Poeple where these pirate signals are strong, and every household ( I visit )has these pirate stations on( Big City 101 and Touch-FM ). Checkout The Boston Carnival Festival on August 24 2008 ( Alot of Pirate radio Fans, Avg Folks dont know about what a legal station, they love good music stations ).
 
I will post this again because neither of you have commented on my propsal for you to get an legal urban ac formatted station going on Boston.

NSPUNX said:
Rapking and LAUROJRM why don't you guys get together and start a company to look into starting a legal urban AC station in the Boston Market. You could look for venture capitalist's or people who share you desire for a station of this format to invest. It would take a lot of hard work, and sacrifice on your part but if something is really important to you it is worth it. You could start by renting time on an AM station and use the revenue you generate from selling ads to local businesses around your neighborhood on your leased time and your investors to purchase a legal station to do with what you wish. If there is really a strong desire for this format in the market you should have no problem finding people to invest. You could hire a company to do surveys to find out how many people would listen to this type of format and bring that to a bank or a venture capital firm to show them that you have a product that no one else is offering and that you have a large segement of the population that say they would listen. This would take a lot of hard work and probably wouldnt happen overnight, you would also have to invest your life savings, mortgage any property you own and have to ask your friends and families to invest thier savings into it, you may also end up failing and losing everything, but anything worth doing is worth working hard for. You would also have the satisfaction is knowing that you went about it the proper and legal way and that by doing it the proper and legal way that you are REALLY serving the community.

I would REALLY like to know your thoughts on this RAPKING and LAURO?
 
NSPUNX, I'm also looking forward to seeing the excuses those two come up with to justify illegal activity. I'm in the business, just as WLYN's GM is. As an engineer, I can appreciate what happens when things are done accorfing to law. Just an example of what illegal activity can do on either AM or FM: In October of 2006, the 740 on Long Island, WNYH, was doing some equipment testing, just after sunset. My station, WVCH, drops from 1 kW to 6 watts after dark to protect CHWO in Toronto; 740 being a Canadian clear channel. WNYH did not cut to its 50 watts at night; it ran its day power of 20 kW, blowing the doors off WVCH and CHWO. I think management at my station filed a complaint with the FCC, but never heard a thing further...
 
rapking said:
alot of people are listening to there Pirate stations. I visit alot of Poeple where these pirate signals are strong, and every household ( I visit )has these pirate stations on( Big City 101 and Touch-FM ). Checkout The Boston Carnival Festival on August 24 2008 ( Alot of Pirate radio Fans, Avg Folks dont know about what a legal station, they love good music stations ).

Exactly as I suspected: the "me and all my friends" defense. The FACT is that you have no idea how many people are listening...which, in any event, is no excuse for breaking the law. There is no right to operate a radio station...a concept repeatedly upheld in the courts and a concept which you and your friends don't understand.

Pirates have, unfortunately quite often, put lives in danger. Ask the ATC tower at Miami-Dade International Airport, which a few years back experienced several near-crashes because a pirate was parked on the approach frequency. He got hauled off to jail...and the same thing is going to happen to your bosom buddies if they keep waving their illegal operation in the FCC's face.
 
DG02816 said:
NSPUNX, I'm also looking forward to seeing the excuses those two come up with to justify illegal activity. I'm in the business, just as WLYN's GM is. As an engineer, I can appreciate what happens when things are done accorfing to law. Just an example of what illegal activity can do on either AM or FM: In October of 2006, the 740 on Long Island, WNYH, was doing some equipment testing, just after sunset. My station, WVCH, drops from 1 kW to 6 watts after dark to protect CHWO in Toronto; 740 being a Canadian clear channel. WNYH did not cut to its 50 watts at night; it ran its day power of 20 kW, blowing the doors off WVCH and CHWO. I think management at my station filed a complaint with the FCC, but never heard a thing further...

They've already made it quite clear what their excuses are. They can be summarized as "the other stations stink, so that gives the pirates the right to break the law."

As for actually doing something about it, per NSPUNX's suggestion: Don't hold your breath. They'd rather come to this board and B&M about it rather than actually do something constructive about it. (Yes, that was a challenge. Let's see the pirate-lovers prove me wrong.)
 
I'd love to see what they come up with to prove us wrong...LOLOL. People like that, sadly, don't know any better. But ignorance is NOT bliss....
 
The average listener probably does not know what a pirate station is. They think every station is allowed to be there. However, on this forum, we all know those pirate stations are not allowed to be on the air. Listening to a pirate station isn't illegal, downloading mp3s is more illegal than listening to a pirate. Most of the events Touch "sponsors" probably don't know that 106.1 is illegal. rapking, we all know you like urban AC. How about you MOVE to a place which has an urban AC station?
 
rapking said:
When was the last time a Pirate station Rape or killed someone ( NEVER )?

So, if I came into your house and stole your TV, Computer, money...whatever...would it be ok becasue no one was murdered or raped?? Of course not!! The law is the law and it can't only be enforced when those that are are breaking it are doing something you like.

By the way, you bring up Rodney Harrison. He was suspended for his HGH use, correct? Have the asshole scumbags who run Touch paid their fine yet?????????
 
dumber than a box of hair said:
rapking said:
alot of people are listening to there Pirate stations. I visit alot of Poeple where these pirate signals are strong, and every household ( I visit )has these pirate stations on( Big City 101 and Touch-FM ). Checkout The Boston Carnival Festival on August 24 2008 ( Alot of Pirate radio Fans, Avg Folks dont know about what a legal station, they love good music stations ).

Exactly as I suspected: the "me and all my friends" defense. The FACT is that you have no idea how many people are listening...which, in any event, is no excuse for breaking the law. There is no right to operate a radio station...a concept repeatedly upheld in the courts and a concept which you and your friends don't understand.

Pirates have, unfortunately quite often, put lives in danger. Ask the ATC tower at Miami-Dade International Airport, which a few years back experienced several near-crashes because a pirate was parked on the approach frequency. He got hauled off to jail...and the same thing is going to happen to your bosom buddies if they keep waving their illegal operation in the FCC's face.
Over 100 Thousand people at the Carnival. I most have alot of freinds.
 
mistermicrophone said:
rapking said:
When was the last time a Pirate station Rape or killed someone ( NEVER )?

So, if I came into your house and stole your TV, Computer, money...whatever...would it be ok becasue no one was murdered or raped?? Of course not!! The law is the law and it can't only be enforced when those that are are breaking it are doing something you like.

By the way, you bring up Rodney Harrison. He was suspended for his HGH use, correct? Have the ------ scumbags who run Touch paid their fine yet?????????
When was the last time a Pirate Station sole a TV, Computer or Money...whatever from someone house( Never)? How do you know if Rodney or The Pats paid the Fine ?? Maybe Touch-FM Paid or didnt Paid the Fine ( I dont care ). If FFC Dont Care, Why should you "Radio board wannabees" Care ???
 
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