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100.3 Urban AC Pirate

breaking the law...

To Tom Wells in particular -
So - you were operating a pirate on the shortwave bands. Funny,
I had to get my ham license, back in 1972, to operate in that spectrum
space -- and even then, that frequency was off limits, as it was out of band...

You claim to hold 2 patents. I guess that since you condone illegal behavior, it
would be just fine with you if somebody came along and presented your inventions
as his own, or profited from them, without your blessing/permission! Funny thing about
laws - you don't get to pick and choose which ones to follow, and which to disregard...
 
Eli:

I'm in full agreement with your post. Though, I don't see why a group that truly wanted to serve the community would be against LPFM or learning how to fundraise and underwrite. Now, is Touch FM that sort of group? I don't know. But I believe that LPFM and community radio can pay their bills and serve their community with wise use of resources and a true dedication to public service.
 
Eli Polonsky said:
If the FCC changes those standards to allow some LPFM's in the cities to apply for legitimate licenses, I'd say they should go for it...

Just for fun, let's take a look at the "what if's"..

Let's say the FCC relaxed their rules and suddenly found space on the spectrum for 10-15 additional stations...LPFM or whatever...

Can you imagine how many applications there would be generated for just those 10-15 applications?

There's no guarantee that Choice, Touch...or anyone else would automatically get a license....especially if they are in a situation of competing with others for the few licenses available.
 
My question is why does anyone think that IF the FCC made a frequency on Boston abailable that Touch would pay for the engineering study, application fee, construction permit, license, taxes, and all that good stuff? They wont pay to lease time on an existing station or pay to purchase an already licensed station so why would they pay to aquire an open frequency if one became so? Really?
 
NSPUNX said:
My question is why does anyone think that IF the FCC made a frequency on Boston abailable that Touch would pay for the engineering study, application fee, construction permit, license, taxes, and all that good stuff? They wont pay to lease time on an existing station or pay to purchase an already licensed station so why would they pay to aquire an open frequency if one became so? Really?
Easy answer, To Stay out of Jail . Boston need a Urban A/C .
 
Re: breaking the law...

WLYNgm said:
To Tom Wells in particular -
So - you were operating a pirate on the shortwave bands. Funny,
I had to get my ham license, back in 1972, to operate in that spectrum
space -- and even then, that frequency was off limits, as it was out of band...

You claim to hold 2 patents. I guess that since you condone illegal behavior, it
would be just fine with you if somebody came along and presented your inventions
as his own, or profited from them, without your blessing/permission! Funny thing about
laws - you don't get to pick and choose which ones to follow, and which to disregard...

Yes, I did operate on what was a "international broadcast" frequency, as this particular frequency was "not in use" at the time.
I studied for amatuer radio but never tested as I had set a goal for a 1st class license, only to have that ticket evaporate before
I graduated.

I would have some offensive right with my patents, but no defensive rights. I can sue, but nothing really stops anyone from trying to manufacture or sell something based on my or any patents, it's up to the holder to notice and tell them they are in infringement.
This happens frequently.

I would not violate such rules now, I had a lot of fun and paid my fine. Those who have the same ability and feel they bring
a needed choice to the market should serve the people and also be ready to pay the fine.
I don't think it is correct to become commercial with such a station. That ruins the spirit of it for me....
I also can't condone splattering onto or hijacking frequencies.

We know crowded markets have no allocations left, that's why it's so sad that "hobbyists" have no real recourse.

There really is a lot a duplicate programming and formats.

Maybe when the AM band is declared dead it can become all- hobby broadcasting. :D
 
So, you paid your fine, and you seem to have learned from the experience.
That is the mark of a grownup adult. I'm glad to hear that!

Ham radio exists for people who want to pursue radio as a hobby.
There are many different facets to pursue within ham radio -
just follow your passion. Get your ham ticket, and have at it. Welcome!

73, de WA1RFF
 
I always get a good chuckle out of how VIOLENT ham operators get when you bring up the subject of pirate radio...heh. It's sort of like when married people talk about how happy they are around someone that just went through an ugly divorce. You can see the red face and steam next to you through your peripheral vision.

There's a big difference between old-school "hobby" pirates (Hell, there used to be scads of publications about the subject!) and a lot of what goes on today. Most pirates of days gone by have found legal outlets for what they do, either on the internet or via block programming. For those that did it just for the entertainment aspect, having to deal with the FCC (and thier overly-eager "sources") just isn't worth the aggrivation anymore, not when there are so many viable outlets now.

Like it or not, as a wise man once said, as long as there is radio there WILL be pirates. They go hand in hand, for better or worse.

As horrific as this may be for some to accept, many underground stations have been (and may still be) operated by individuals with (gasp!) real radio careers. It's like the "other woman": one's a job - the other is for the passion. At least that's how it was, back in the day. You would be amazed how many people in actual, er, licensed broadcasting have enjoyed listening to (and sometimes participating in) pirate radio over the years. There was a time when you'd be hard-pressed to find a "real" (i.e. not just someone having a stick up the kiester) anti-pirate guy at a legitimate radio station.

There used to be a real craft to underground radio...go to a library and see if they have old copies of Popular Communications or Hobby Broadcasting and you'll see. It was always interesting to see if one person (or a small group of people) could generate listeners by putting together a format that people would actually like, without having to deal with a multi-billion dollar corporation nipping at your heels left and right. Imagine that?

Of course, some "get it" and some will never get it (well, there IS one theory is that the term "ham" came from the term "ham-fisted"... :p). Learning morse code and exchanging ten-counts with guys from Slovakia works for some people, but not for everybody.

I don't support thses things, but I admit I enjoyed listening to pirates way back when. I'm also honest enough to admit that opinions are like anuses. Everybody has one, and everyone thinks THEIRS is the one that DOESN'T stink.
 
It's also worth adding that anyone that signs on a transmitter on a frequency that interferes with a licensed station is an idiot who deserves to get busted. It's idiocy like that which causes the bad feelings about all pirates going back to the 1930s.

Just to clarify: I don't support these things, but won't point fingers, either. If a guy drives carefully - but at 65 in a 55 - and he still gets a ticket, that's his problem. The guy driving a steady 55 while drunk a mile away and causes a 20-car pileup deserves to go to jail. It's just that there's a big difference between the two.

BTW - Jimmy James, I "get" the "WNYX" reference. ;)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112095/
 
Sorry to say Petey, you really should not spout
off about things you obviously know nothing about.
Hams do not use "10-codes" - never have - never will...
That is something unique to CB radio - the original 23
channels having been taken away from the amateur
11-meter band.

_ _ . /./ _ . _ _ ._./ ._ ../.. _ / .


73, de WA1RFF
 
speaking of pirates, Taylor-on-radio-info says that the 99.9 pirate in Augusta, GA has been shut down
"by county officials". The FCC triangulated the signal then county officials came in to turn them off.
Taylor notes: "Normally this takes much, much longer – and perhaps the most important lesson about controlling the pirate radio scene is to act quickly, before a new operation picks up community support and recognition (like “Touch” in Boston). "

http://www.wrdw.com/home/headlines/20504039.html
WRDW says equipment seized; no arrests (..yet?)
 
>and perhaps the most important lesson about controlling the pirate radio scene is to act quickly, before >a new operation picks up community support and recognition (like “Touch” in Boston). "<
>
"before a new operation PICKS UP COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND RECOGNITION"

What more need be said?
 
FPB said:
>"before a new operation PICKS UP COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND RECOGNITION"

What more need be said?

Well, there are some Italian neighborhoods where the Mafia was supported and recognized.

There are/were places in Southie where White Bulger was supported and recognized.


In each of these cases, people are oblivious to the big picture.
 
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