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102.9 Format Change

Easy there, y'all...this is just a flanker to siphon off numbers from Movin', Click and Star. The mission statement isn't compelling programming that's live and local 24/7. And it will probably make enough to pay the bills - something that its predecessor didn't. Sure, that upsets us radio geeks...but then again, we're not paying the bills!

As for stations in smaller markets "worrying" about the flip - ask Bill Wolfenbarger if he's shaking in his boots. Methinks not. It's a safe bet you're not going to hear ads for "Doug's Small Engine Repair" or "Quilter's Junction" on KYNW.

What intrigues me is that adding an FM to KJR ended up being such a spectacular flop ratings-wise. It made hardly a dent in KIRO's numbers.
 
Now will 710 take over another station (maybe the god-awful "Q104.5" or someone else)? IMO, sports was better than 24/7/365 syndicated Adele, Lady Gaga, etc. stuff that you can hear on NINE HUNDRED OTHER STATIONS across the country...

-crainbebo
 
Mike Brewer said:
Sure, that upsets us radio geeks...but then again, we're not paying the bills!
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We may be radio geeks/listeners, but they're not our parents.....

102.9 has a LOT going against it. Heavy competition from it's own and other stations, a less than stellar signal and a bland generic, heard-one-you-heard-'em-all syndicated format. How this fits in an age where you can hear any one of their core artists on other stations (and instantly via mobile streaming) is beyond me.

They could have flipped to Smooth Jazz and found a more eager audience......
 
I would rather have a classic rhythmic oldies station there. Maybe 104.9 can change to that? Or if 102.9 sucks the life out of 106.1, then have 102.9 has that station??
 
First off, why does everyone keep slamming Q104.5? Until they changed formats, the old station used to practically put me to sleep! I could count on 1 hand the number of songs from that format I would like to see back on their playlist. Imo Kiss had the life sucked out of it a year or year and a half ago. The only reason I still listen is because they have the count down shows that you can't hear on 92.5, Star, or anywhere else on the Seattle dial. The first change I would make to 92.5 when Kiss flips formats is pick up AT40. It doesn't help that Sandusky keeps tweaking KLCK, though they haven't tweaked since about November.
 
What Clear Channel should do; is figure out what format nobody in Aberdeen/Hoqium is capitalizing on, likewise with Centrailia, and every town in between. That 102.9 signal is a blowtorch that can be heard all of the way down to Vancouver, Washington, all of the way to Ocean Shores, and far up the Olympic Peninsula to Forks. I always thought it was a good idea to use the 102.9 signal for the country music format, as it can be heard all over that region. Unfortunately, thanks to KJR screwing over that business venture with their FM sports station, KGY was able to take over what "Q Country" had going...
 
Bongwater said:
Mike Brewer said:
Sure, that upsets us radio geeks...but then again, we're not paying the bills!
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They could have flipped to Smooth Jazz and found a more eager audience......
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Agreed.

swhyde1980 said:
I would rather have a classic rhythmic oldies station there.
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+1 on that as well. Something like KISQ in San Francisco, 1970s-1990s rhythmic hits with some R&B, disco, etc.

-crainbebo
 
bobdavcav said:
First off, why does everyone keep slamming Q104.5? Until they changed formats, the old station used to practically put me to sleep! I could count on 1 hand the number of songs from that format I would like to see back on their playlist. Imo Kiss had the life sucked out of it a year or year and a half ago. The only reason I still listen is because they have the count down shows that you can't hear on 92.5, Star, or anywhere else on the Seattle dial. The first change I would make to 92.5 when Kiss flips formats is pick up AT40. It doesn't help that Sandusky keeps tweaking KLCK, though they haven't tweaked since about November.
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Before CC grabbed Kiss, and for a time after that, Kiss really did have something unique going. The Maine? All Time Low? I have NEVER heard of these bands until I heard Kiss played them. Now? They dropped them!
 
bobdavcav said:
First off, why does everyone keep slamming Q104.5?
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Because somebody could start a thread on the number of vasectomies performed in Scotland and the thread would somehow evolve to talking about how Q104.5 sucks as it is now.

And, inevitably, "Kokomo."
 
Bongwater said:
Mike Brewer said:
Sure, that upsets us radio geeks...but then again, we're not paying the bills!
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We may be radio geeks/listeners, but they're not our parents.....

102.9 has a LOT going against it. Heavy competition from it's own and other stations, a less than stellar signal and a bland generic, heard-one-you-heard-'em-all syndicated format. How this fits in an age where you can hear any one of their core artists on other stations (and instantly via mobile streaming) is beyond me.

They could have flipped to Smooth Jazz and found a more eager audience......
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A radio station's purpose is not to take over the entire market, those days are long gone. Nowadays, as referred to earlier, some stations are in just to weaken someone else. In this particular case, I'm not saying it will or won't do the job CC is hoping, but I'm sure they have their reasons. Time will tell if they are right.
 
In any case...it's awesome moves like this that probably earned John Hogan his "$125K bump in pay" and a ticket to go hang with Bob Pittman in NYC; although you can probably hear the cheers in San Antone'.
 
Apparently no one has noticed but me, and this says something about the non-status of HD radio, but KJR-FM's HD2 replaced a canned adult contemporary 60s-80s mix with a simulcast of KJR-AM.
Very clean audio for those who prefer sports on FM, and for the three other people in Seattle who actually use HD radio in any form.
Incidentally, I have it because I'm curious about what stations do, and because the receiver is a great analog radio. I don't even spend a half hour a week listening to _any_ HD radio offerings. they're just not that compelling.
However, I'd listen to the Mariners'Seahawks on KJR-FM's Hd2, but they split their bandwidth with an HD3 so it can carry the Mormon Channel. Logical for Bonneville, but it degrades the HD2.
Too bad for me that KJR doesn't have the Mariners; I'd love to hear the games sound that good.
 
Hmm Multiplex, I don't have a problem with 97.3's hd2 signal. About the only station I have a problem with the sound on as it is is 92.5 hd3.
 
multiplex said:
Apparently no one has noticed but me, and this says something about the non-status of HD radio, but KJR-FM's HD2 replaced a canned adult contemporary 60s-80s mix with a simulcast of KJR-AM.
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what's HD radio?

OH, you mean that thing that actual consumers don't have or even know about?
 
We're straying off topic here, but bobdavcav, you're right. And incidentally, I'm not sure why the Vietnamese programming is listed as being on 92.5's HD3, when, to my knowledge, they don't use their HD2.
I'm sure they're getting revenue leasing out that HD, but it's unlistenable.
 
I think it's also the SOURCE of the programming (in Asian programming, it's hit or miss.) Some are engineered professionally and it really shows and some are overmodulated to the point of causing physical fatigue after three minutes of listening.....
 
By the way...calls will be changing from KNBQ (KYNW)...Marci Wiser to do middays, Seacrest PM drive, and they will have Morning & Evening jocks.
 
Do they think that the coverage areas are that much different? Are they going to have someone else on Kiss middays then? Getting back to the hd radio, actually the problem with KQMV is the highs are non-existant on the hd. The main signal actually sounds better in hd, I don't think I could stand to listen to it through headphones for more than about 20 minutes in analogue. Btw, has anyone noticed that they've had issues with pitch on a few songs lately?
 
Seacrest is moving from KBKS to NOW or will they just re-run the show he does on KBKS again on NOW? Again, someone explain to me why we needed another station that plays Adele, Katy Perry and Kelly Clarkson with Ryan Seacrest and national syndicated hosts? If someone liked Seacrest, wouldn't Clear Channel actually hurt KBKS the most with this move, the music is not all that different from KBKS, kind of a cross between KBKS and STAR?

I wonder if Clear Channel is getting ready to blow up KBKS and Jackie and Bender will be moved to NOW as well? Use the south end FM to work out the morning shows contract and a place to put Seacrest and the syndicated stuff that was on KBKS. Now that might actually make sense, so it probably isn't going to happen!
 
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