104.9 swapping formats with 92.3

[davideduardo]

92.3 is a far superior signal to 104.9, even operating under reduced power, as they have been for awhile now. When 92.3 (which will definitely keep KSJO calls) is sold, the new owner can increase to their original power once again, and the station's coverage will be more dramatic (the power was reduced by CC because the station's coverage was too good and they had to make it more of an SJ signal, or lose a SF frequency.) In it's heyday, 92.3 could be heard from Russian River to Stockton to Gilroy. It's still very good coverage, especially in a car. None of the above is speculation.

In the 70's, KSJO was 20 kw at -57 feet. Somewhere in the late 70's, it went to 50 kw at -68 feet. And in the 80's, it moved and went to 32 kw at 446 feet, which is where it is now. It's not on reduced power... it traded height for lower power a long time ago. It is not able to improve again. It was the same facility all through the Jacor to Clear to Chase to Clear period, too.

 

[e-dawg]

Since Clear Channel have to sell their San Jose properties. Which station group will buy these station?

Next Media (KBAY, KEZR)

Empire Broadcasters (KRTY, KLIV)

Ed Stolz (KNGY)

Entercom (KBWF, Koit, KDFC)

Cumulus (Kfog, Kffg, KNBR, KTCT, KSAN)

 

[davideduardo]

Since Clear Channel have to sell their San Jose properties. Which station group will buy these station?

Next Media (KBAY, KEZR)

Empire Broadcasters (KRTY, KLIV)

Ed Stolz (KNGY)

Entercom (KBWF, Koit, KDFC)

Cumulus (Kfog, Kffg, KNBR, KTCT, KSAN)

None of the above.

 

[HenryOchs]

Since Clear Channel have to sell their San Jose properties. Which station group will buy these station?

Next Media (KBAY, KEZR)

Empire Broadcasters (KRTY, KLIV)

Ed Stolz (KNGY)

Entercom (KBWF, Koit, KDFC)

Cumulus (Kfog, Kffg, KNBR, KTCT, KSAN)




Maybe Bonneville?

None of the above.

 

[AnimatronicAbeLincoln]

In this economy, I don't think Clear Channel (or anybody) is going to be able to sell any stations. If anyone does any kind of a multi-station deal, it'll be a trade.

 

[weav]

Alas, 104.9 would not be a great choice for Pure Dance...

 

[DaveBayArea]

Alas, 104.9 would not be a great choice for Pure Dance...

Anyone know if 104.9 could be moved back to where it was? Or somewhere close to there? The old site above Niles in Fremont had pretty good Bay Area coverage for a Class A. The present site is shadowed to most of the East Bay, and in fact it was moved South to purposely remove the signal from San Francisco. But if a new owner could move it back, that signal could be viable.

Dave B.

 

[Michael Rivers Kramer]

92.3 is a far superior signal to 104.9, even operating under reduced power, as they have been for awhile now. When 92.3 (which will definitely keep KSJO calls) is sold, the new owner can increase to their original power once again, and the station's coverage will be more dramatic (the power was reduced by CC because the station's coverage was too good and they had to make it more of an SJ signal, or lose a SF frequency.) In it's heyday, 92.3 could be heard from Russian River to Stockton to Gilroy. It's still very good coverage, especially in a car. None of the above is speculation.

It's not on reduced power... it traded height for lower power a long time ago. It is not able to improve again. It was the same facility all through the Jacor to Clear to Chase to Clear period, too.

David,

That last part is not true. The station was 50 kw at 466 feet until the year 2000, when CC merged with AM/FM. In order to keep KUFX and KSJO San Jose under the old rules, the station's 70 dbu contours had to be pulled back in order to not overlap with at least two San Francisco FMs. They sold KFJO in Alameda (and LMA'd it back later from SBS for a time) and for some reason where able to keep KXJO in Walnut Creek.

I was working at 340 Townsend at the time when the San Jose CE told me.


KUFX had to reduce from 12.5 kw to 10 kw at HAAT 880 feet.


There may be some current separation rules that may prevent the power from being increased in the future.

KUFX is probably short spaced with KRXQ in Sacramento and KSQL in Santa Cruz.

 

[davideduardo]

That last part is not true. The station was 50 kw at 466 feet until the year 2000, when CC merged with AM/FM. In order to keep KUFX and KSJO San Jose under the old rules, the station's 70 dbu contours had to be pulled back in order to not overlap with at least two San Francisco FMs. They sold KFJO in Alameda (and LMA'd it back later from SBS for a time) and for some reason where able to keep KXJO in Walnut Creek.

I stand corrected. I pulled out some late-1990's directories and, sure enough, the power was at 50 kw @ 466 feet.

As you say, improvements at other facilities probably will preclude reverting to this... on the other hand, going to 50 kw amounts to just over 50% increase in power... so they will not gain that much coverage.

 

[SFStatic]

CC never owned the Walnut Creek station, they just operated it under an LMA. Chase Radio Properties, an LLC owned by two Texas attorneys close to the Mays boys actually owned the facility. They are the ones who sold it to the Levitt brothers.

 

[e-dawg]

Have 92.3 and 104.9 swap call letters or are they going to keep 92.3 KSJO and 104.9 KCNL.

 

[create]

Have 92.3 and 104.9 swap call letters or are they going to keep 92.3 KSJO and 104.9 KCNL.

As of now they have not swapped call letters. I don't expect they will since neither station uses them as an identifier.

 

[RadioStarOne]

Get to the east side of Castro Valley and the 92.3 signal drops off the earth! The signal is killer in San Leandro. Why can't Sacramento have an alternative station that cooks like Channel 92.3? KWOD 106.5 never sounded as good as Channel 92.3! Guess that's the downside of Entercom owning all the rock stations in Sacramento! Clear Channel are you listening? It's time to DUMP My 92.5 in Sacramento! Anyone agree?

 

[punkdj]

Get to the east side of Castro Valley and the 92.3 signal drops off the earth! The signal is killer in San Leandro. Why can't Sacramento have an alternative station that cooks like Channel 92.3? KWOD 106.5 never sounded as good as Channel 92.3! Guess that's the downside of Entercom owning all the rock stations in Sacramento! Clear Channel are you listening? It's time to DUMP My 92.5 in Sacramento! Anyone agree?

sacramento doesnt have the audience to support alternative. KRXQ kicks everyones ass... cuz people in sac wanna hear METALLICA!

 

[Michael Rivers Kramer]

Get to the east side of Castro Valley and the 92.3 signal drops off the earth! The signal is killer in San Leandro. Why can't Sacramento have an alternative station that cooks like Channel 92.3? KWOD 106.5 never sounded as good as Channel 92.3! Guess that's the downside of Entercom owning all the rock stations in Sacramento! Clear Channel are you listening? It's time to DUMP My 92.5 in Sacramento! Anyone agree?

sacramento doesnt have the audience to support alternative. KRXQ kicks everyones ass... cuz people in sac wanna hear METALLICA!

Sacramento supported alternative for years. What changed? Entercom wanted to protect the KRXQ franchise, changed KWOD to Version 2.0 and destroyed it.

Well alternative isn't kicking ass in a lot of markets anymore.

 

[mdh]

I have done bandscans in several locations in northern and central California, and 92.3/San Jose has a decent signal all the way into Ukiah. Not local quality, but still a decent signal.

 

[radiojomo]

Well alternative isn't kicking ass in a lot of markets anymore.

Alternative is kicking ass in PPM markets in a sense. While not in the "top" overall ratings, Alternative stations do good jobs reaching their target audiences. Just like KROQ and KYSR in Los Angeles, WRFF in Philadelphia, XETRA and KBZT in San Diego, KTBZ in Houston. They're all pretty much doing better than they ever did in the diaries...Alternative might not "rake in the ratings" but it does a good job of raking in advertisers

 

[punkdj]

Get to the east side of Castro Valley and the 92.3 signal drops off the earth! The signal is killer in San Leandro. Why can't Sacramento have an alternative station that cooks like Channel 92.3? KWOD 106.5 never sounded as good as Channel 92.3! Guess that's the downside of Entercom owning all the rock stations in Sacramento! Clear Channel are you listening? It's time to DUMP My 92.5 in Sacramento! Anyone agree?

sacramento doesnt have the audience to support alternative. KRXQ kicks everyones ass... cuz people in sac wanna hear METALLICA!

Sacramento supported alternative for years. What changed? Entercom wanted to protect the KRXQ franchise, changed KWOD to Version 2.0 and destroyed it.

Well alternative isn't kicking ass in a lot of markets anymore.

actually it did not, KWOD was consistently second to last in every daypart.
barely made a 2 share most of the time.
that isn't exactly supporting the format.