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mussels
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107.5 FM Reading will be signing on shortly. We are in need of staff, production, air, sales. Can't tell you format or date. Interested send to WBYN or reply to my e-mail. Rick Musselman
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If you're unsure of a format, I'd refer you to the management of Route 81, which has a legacy of building successful talk stations from the ground up.
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bearcubpa
Guest
> If you're unsure of a format, I'd refer you to the
> management of Route 81, which has a legacy of building
> successful talk stations from the ground up.
>
LOLOL Thinkingman, I see that Santa did not bring you that personality that you asked for this year. Oh well. Maybe next year.
> management of Route 81, which has a legacy of building
> successful talk stations from the ground up.
>
LOLOL Thinkingman, I see that Santa did not bring you that personality that you asked for this year. Oh well. Maybe next year.
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SamBuca
Guest
> LOLOL Thinkingman, I see that Santa did not bring you that
> personality that you asked for this year. Oh well. Maybe
> next year.
Maybe if he would have listened to WHYL when they played xmas music santa would have been nicer to him.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
> personality that you asked for this year. Oh well. Maybe
> next year.
Maybe if he would have listened to WHYL when they played xmas music santa would have been nicer to him.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
Good to see that Route 81 is still in the cheap shot template.
> Good to see that Route 81 is still in the cheap shot
> template.
>
For my money, "cheap" and "Route 81" are practically synonymous.
> template.
>
For my money, "cheap" and "Route 81" are practically synonymous.
> > LOLOL Thinkingman, I see that Santa did not bring you
> that
> > personality that you asked for this year. Oh well. Maybe
> > next year.
>
> Maybe if he would have listened to WHYL when they played
> xmas music santa would have been nicer to him.
>
If I'd have listened to WHYL when they played Christmas music, I'd have doubled their cume.
> that
> > personality that you asked for this year. Oh well. Maybe
> > next year.
>
> Maybe if he would have listened to WHYL when they played
> xmas music santa would have been nicer to him.
>
If I'd have listened to WHYL when they played Christmas music, I'd have doubled their cume.
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SamBuca
Guest
> If I'd have listened to WHYL when they played Christmas
> music, I'd have doubled their cume.
Every little bit helps
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</P>
> music, I'd have doubled their cume.
Every little bit helps
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BulkEraser
Guest
Ladies and Gentleman, this has been one of the most inane threads I have ever seen here, especially considering how it started. As the PA Dutch say... "eye eye eye..."<P ID="signature">______________
Apathy is bliss.</P>
Apathy is bliss.</P>
> > Good to see that Route 81 is still in the cheap shot
> > template.
>
> Joe, stop being so defensive. If you were still at WLAN,
> would you chirp every time someone took a slam at Cheap Cha
> ... er, Clear Channel?
>
> Let the bitterness go, paisan. Let it go.
>
Like the '06 Eagles...no defense intended. Just thought that of all the owners, 'Cheap' Channel being one (though they never treated me cheaply, but I digress...), it seems formulaic to take a shot at route 81. Oh well, at least we're not still getting blamed for those Pro-Life spots. Guess I should take what I can get. BTW... what does everyone here think of the law W. signed on Monday about anonymous flaming online? Just curious.
http://news.com.com/Create+an+e-ann...3-6022491.html?part=rss&tag=6022491&subj=news
> > template.
>
> Joe, stop being so defensive. If you were still at WLAN,
> would you chirp every time someone took a slam at Cheap Cha
> ... er, Clear Channel?
>
> Let the bitterness go, paisan. Let it go.
>
Like the '06 Eagles...no defense intended. Just thought that of all the owners, 'Cheap' Channel being one (though they never treated me cheaply, but I digress...), it seems formulaic to take a shot at route 81. Oh well, at least we're not still getting blamed for those Pro-Life spots. Guess I should take what I can get. BTW... what does everyone here think of the law W. signed on Monday about anonymous flaming online? Just curious.
http://news.com.com/Create+an+e-ann...3-6022491.html?part=rss&tag=6022491&subj=news
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bearcubpa
Guest
> > > Good to see that Route 81 is still in the cheap shot
> > > template.
> >
> > Joe, stop being so defensive. If you were still at WLAN,
> > would you chirp every time someone took a slam at Cheap
> Cha
> > ... er, Clear Channel?
> >
> > Let the bitterness go, paisan. Let it go.
> >
>
> Like the '06 Eagles...no defense intended. Just thought that
> of all the owners, 'Cheap' Channel being one (though they
> never treated me cheaply, but I digress...), it seems
> formulaic to take a shot at route 81. Oh well, at least
> we're not still getting blamed for those Pro-Life spots.
> Guess I should take what I can get. BTW... what does
> everyone here think of the law W. signed on Monday about
> anonymous flaming online? Just curious.
>
http://news.com.com/Create+an+e-annoyance,+go+to+> jail/2010-1028_3-6022491.html?part=rss&tag=6022491&subj=news
>
I dont think there is anything anonymous about flaming. But I can't figure out how they stay up on those heals.
Cheers
> > > template.
> >
> > Joe, stop being so defensive. If you were still at WLAN,
> > would you chirp every time someone took a slam at Cheap
> Cha
> > ... er, Clear Channel?
> >
> > Let the bitterness go, paisan. Let it go.
> >
>
> Like the '06 Eagles...no defense intended. Just thought that
> of all the owners, 'Cheap' Channel being one (though they
> never treated me cheaply, but I digress...), it seems
> formulaic to take a shot at route 81. Oh well, at least
> we're not still getting blamed for those Pro-Life spots.
> Guess I should take what I can get. BTW... what does
> everyone here think of the law W. signed on Monday about
> anonymous flaming online? Just curious.
>
http://news.com.com/Create+an+e-annoyance,+go+to+> jail/2010-1028_3-6022491.html?part=rss&tag=6022491&subj=news
>
I dont think there is anything anonymous about flaming. But I can't figure out how they stay up on those heals.
Cheers
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bierkenstock
Guest
Flame On!
I'm sorry, Joe. In your universe any criticism of Route 81 is flaming?
And you think it's unfair to blame Route 81 for those anti-abortion spots? Get real! Those were the most tasteless things I ever heard on the radio - the audio equivalent of anti-abortion protesters sticking pictures of aborted fetuses in people's face. Those spots were enough to make me nostalgic for the Fairness Doctrine.
You "flame" people and organizations on your program. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.
>
> Like the '06 Eagles...no defense intended. Just thought that
> of all the owners, 'Cheap' Channel being one (though they
> never treated me cheaply, but I digress...), it seems
> formulaic to take a shot at route 81. Oh well, at least
> we're not still getting blamed for those Pro-Life spots.
> Guess I should take what I can get. BTW... what does
> everyone here think of the law W. signed on Monday about
> anonymous flaming online? Just curious.
>
I'm sorry, Joe. In your universe any criticism of Route 81 is flaming?
And you think it's unfair to blame Route 81 for those anti-abortion spots? Get real! Those were the most tasteless things I ever heard on the radio - the audio equivalent of anti-abortion protesters sticking pictures of aborted fetuses in people's face. Those spots were enough to make me nostalgic for the Fairness Doctrine.
You "flame" people and organizations on your program. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.
>
> Like the '06 Eagles...no defense intended. Just thought that
> of all the owners, 'Cheap' Channel being one (though they
> never treated me cheaply, but I digress...), it seems
> formulaic to take a shot at route 81. Oh well, at least
> we're not still getting blamed for those Pro-Life spots.
> Guess I should take what I can get. BTW... what does
> everyone here think of the law W. signed on Monday about
> anonymous flaming online? Just curious.
>
Re: Flame On!
> I'm sorry, Joe. In your universe any criticism of Route 81
> is flaming?
No. As long as we've earned it or are currently doing something worth critisizing, be my guest. Actually, I wish you would. Be my guest, that is. But you never call. *sigh*
>
> And you think it's unfair to blame Route 81 for those
> anti-abortion spots? Get real! Those were the most
> tasteless things I ever heard on the radio - the audio
> equivalent of anti-abortion protesters sticking pictures of
> aborted fetuses in people's face. Those spots were enough
> to make me nostalgic for the Fairness Doctrine.
I've actually never even heard them first hand and that's my point. They've been gone for quite a while now, move on.
>
> You "flame" people and organizations on your program. If
> you can't take it, don't dish it out.
Yes I do, but in my world everyone knows my name and where to find me.
>
> >
> > Like the '06 Eagles...no defense intended. Just thought
> that
> > of all the owners, 'Cheap' Channel being one (though they
> > never treated me cheaply, but I digress...), it seems
> > formulaic to take a shot at route 81. Oh well, at least
> > we're not still getting blamed for those Pro-Life spots.
> > Guess I should take what I can get. BTW... what does
> > everyone here think of the law W. signed on Monday about
> > anonymous flaming online? Just curious.
> >
>
> I'm sorry, Joe. In your universe any criticism of Route 81
> is flaming?
No. As long as we've earned it or are currently doing something worth critisizing, be my guest. Actually, I wish you would. Be my guest, that is. But you never call. *sigh*
>
> And you think it's unfair to blame Route 81 for those
> anti-abortion spots? Get real! Those were the most
> tasteless things I ever heard on the radio - the audio
> equivalent of anti-abortion protesters sticking pictures of
> aborted fetuses in people's face. Those spots were enough
> to make me nostalgic for the Fairness Doctrine.
I've actually never even heard them first hand and that's my point. They've been gone for quite a while now, move on.
>
> You "flame" people and organizations on your program. If
> you can't take it, don't dish it out.
Yes I do, but in my world everyone knows my name and where to find me.
>
> >
> > Like the '06 Eagles...no defense intended. Just thought
> that
> > of all the owners, 'Cheap' Channel being one (though they
> > never treated me cheaply, but I digress...), it seems
> > formulaic to take a shot at route 81. Oh well, at least
> > we're not still getting blamed for those Pro-Life spots.
> > Guess I should take what I can get. BTW... what does
> > everyone here think of the law W. signed on Monday about
> > anonymous flaming online? Just curious.
> >
>
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BL40Modulimiter
Guest
Re: Flame On!
***Considering WHYL is now on its 4th format in less than 2 years, perhaps the company should have been named "Roulette 81 Radio"?
{DARLH}
> > I'm sorry, Joe. In your universe any criticism of Route
> 81
> > is flaming?
>
> No. As long as we've earned it or are currently doing
> something worth critisizing, be my guest. Actually, I wish
> you would. Be my guest, that is. But you never call. *sigh*
>
> >
> > And you think it's unfair to blame Route 81 for those
> > anti-abortion spots? Get real! Those were the most
> > tasteless things I ever heard on the radio - the audio
> > equivalent of anti-abortion protesters sticking pictures
> of
> > aborted fetuses in people's face. Those spots were enough
>
> > to make me nostalgic for the Fairness Doctrine.
>
> I've actually never even heard them first hand and that's my
> point. They've been gone for quite a while now, move on.
>
> >
> > You "flame" people and organizations on your program. If
> > you can't take it, don't dish it out.
>
> Yes I do, but in my world everyone knows my name and where
> to find me.
>
> >
> > >
> > > Like the '06 Eagles...no defense intended. Just thought
> > that
> > > of all the owners, 'Cheap' Channel being one (though
> they
> > > never treated me cheaply, but I digress...), it seems
> > > formulaic to take a shot at route 81. Oh well, at least
> > > we're not still getting blamed for those Pro-Life spots.
>
> > > Guess I should take what I can get. BTW... what does
> > > everyone here think of the law W. signed on Monday about
>
> > > anonymous flaming online? Just curious.
> > >
> >
>
***Considering WHYL is now on its 4th format in less than 2 years, perhaps the company should have been named "Roulette 81 Radio"?
{DARLH}
> > I'm sorry, Joe. In your universe any criticism of Route
> 81
> > is flaming?
>
> No. As long as we've earned it or are currently doing
> something worth critisizing, be my guest. Actually, I wish
> you would. Be my guest, that is. But you never call. *sigh*
>
> >
> > And you think it's unfair to blame Route 81 for those
> > anti-abortion spots? Get real! Those were the most
> > tasteless things I ever heard on the radio - the audio
> > equivalent of anti-abortion protesters sticking pictures
> of
> > aborted fetuses in people's face. Those spots were enough
>
> > to make me nostalgic for the Fairness Doctrine.
>
> I've actually never even heard them first hand and that's my
> point. They've been gone for quite a while now, move on.
>
> >
> > You "flame" people and organizations on your program. If
> > you can't take it, don't dish it out.
>
> Yes I do, but in my world everyone knows my name and where
> to find me.
>
> >
> > >
> > > Like the '06 Eagles...no defense intended. Just thought
> > that
> > > of all the owners, 'Cheap' Channel being one (though
> they
> > > never treated me cheaply, but I digress...), it seems
> > > formulaic to take a shot at route 81. Oh well, at least
> > > we're not still getting blamed for those Pro-Life spots.
>
> > > Guess I should take what I can get. BTW... what does
> > > everyone here think of the law W. signed on Monday about
>
> > > anonymous flaming online? Just curious.
> > >
> >
>
Re: Flame On!
> No. As long as we've earned it or are currently doing
> something worth critisizing, be my guest.
WHYL earning two consecutive 0.4 12+ ratings is what I call "earning it," especially after the hype it got on this message board. Route 81 is the Tampa Bay Devil Rays of Harrisburg radio.
> No. As long as we've earned it or are currently doing
> something worth critisizing, be my guest.
WHYL earning two consecutive 0.4 12+ ratings is what I call "earning it," especially after the hype it got on this message board. Route 81 is the Tampa Bay Devil Rays of Harrisburg radio.
Re: Flame On!
> WHYL earning two consecutive 0.4 12+ ratings is what I call
> "earning it," especially after the hype it got on this
> message board. Route 81 is the Tampa Bay Devil Rays of
> Harrisburg radio.
>
Watch this one... In a way, I agree with some of what you say. Now this is the opinion of an 18-year radio vet who just happens to work at one of Route 81's other stations and is not privy to any of the business that they do. (I actually had to e-mail Sam through his Radio-Info address!)
WHYL's in Carlisle with a majority of the books in tab going to areas where there signal doesn't even go. So they cannot ever 'make good numbers' in Arbitron. I don't think WHYL should be marketed as a Harrisburg station any more than WCOJ should be pitched as a Philly station. I'm not privy to how they approach the market at 'HYL so I will refer back to my time with 'LAN as an example. Can people hear WLAN in parts of the H'burg metro? Yes. In enough of it to be considered a 'Harrisburg station? No. If that's how they marketed themselves they would have lost Lancaster and not gained Harrisburg. So the numbers a suburban station needs to worry about aren't the ones tracked by arbitron. If WHYL's sales staff hits the streets they'll make the money.
> WHYL earning two consecutive 0.4 12+ ratings is what I call
> "earning it," especially after the hype it got on this
> message board. Route 81 is the Tampa Bay Devil Rays of
> Harrisburg radio.
>
Watch this one... In a way, I agree with some of what you say. Now this is the opinion of an 18-year radio vet who just happens to work at one of Route 81's other stations and is not privy to any of the business that they do. (I actually had to e-mail Sam through his Radio-Info address!)
WHYL's in Carlisle with a majority of the books in tab going to areas where there signal doesn't even go. So they cannot ever 'make good numbers' in Arbitron. I don't think WHYL should be marketed as a Harrisburg station any more than WCOJ should be pitched as a Philly station. I'm not privy to how they approach the market at 'HYL so I will refer back to my time with 'LAN as an example. Can people hear WLAN in parts of the H'burg metro? Yes. In enough of it to be considered a 'Harrisburg station? No. If that's how they marketed themselves they would have lost Lancaster and not gained Harrisburg. So the numbers a suburban station needs to worry about aren't the ones tracked by arbitron. If WHYL's sales staff hits the streets they'll make the money.
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bearcubpa
Guest
Re: Flame On!
OK, So I have to give you that. Lloyd, Gavin, Bob, whoever was churning things awhile back could not really make up their minds. WHYL did do a Titanic type of nose dive, and some of the people hung on to the life rafts, others jumped ship. WHYL is not the first station to have a history like this, and it won't be the last. Wound licking has been done, and a new Captain has boarded the ship. And this captain, for those of you who do not know his history, has a very steady history of turning things around. The uptick in the most recent book was nominal at best, but its a start.Other Route 81 stations in NEPA are also experiencing new growth, from the posts on those pages. As said before, anythings possible.
> ***Considering WHYL is now on its 4th format in less than 2
> years, perhaps the company should have been named "Roulette
> 81 Radio"?
> {DARLH}
>
> > > I'm sorry, Joe. In your universe any criticism of Route
>
> > 81
> > > is flaming?
> >
> > No. As long as we've earned it or are currently doing
> > something worth critisizing, be my guest. Actually, I wish
>
> > you would. Be my guest, that is. But you never call.
> *sigh*
> >
> > >
> > > And you think it's unfair to blame Route 81 for those
> > > anti-abortion spots? Get real! Those were the most
> > > tasteless things I ever heard on the radio - the audio
> > > equivalent of anti-abortion protesters sticking pictures
>
> > of
> > > aborted fetuses in people's face. Those spots were
> enough
> >
> > > to make me nostalgic for the Fairness Doctrine.
> >
> > I've actually never even heard them first hand and that's
> my
> > point. They've been gone for quite a while now, move on.
> >
> > >
> > > You "flame" people and organizations on your program.
> If
> > > you can't take it, don't dish it out.
> >
> > Yes I do, but in my world everyone knows my name and where
>
> > to find me.
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Like the '06 Eagles...no defense intended. Just
> thought
> > > that
> > > > of all the owners, 'Cheap' Channel being one (though
> > they
> > > > never treated me cheaply, but I digress...), it seems
> > > > formulaic to take a shot at route 81. Oh well, at
> least
> > > > we're not still getting blamed for those Pro-Life
> spots.
> >
> > > > Guess I should take what I can get. BTW... what does
> > > > everyone here think of the law W. signed on Monday
> about
> >
> > > > anonymous flaming online? Just curious.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
OK, So I have to give you that. Lloyd, Gavin, Bob, whoever was churning things awhile back could not really make up their minds. WHYL did do a Titanic type of nose dive, and some of the people hung on to the life rafts, others jumped ship. WHYL is not the first station to have a history like this, and it won't be the last. Wound licking has been done, and a new Captain has boarded the ship. And this captain, for those of you who do not know his history, has a very steady history of turning things around. The uptick in the most recent book was nominal at best, but its a start.Other Route 81 stations in NEPA are also experiencing new growth, from the posts on those pages. As said before, anythings possible.
> ***Considering WHYL is now on its 4th format in less than 2
> years, perhaps the company should have been named "Roulette
> 81 Radio"?
> {DARLH}
>
> > > I'm sorry, Joe. In your universe any criticism of Route
>
> > 81
> > > is flaming?
> >
> > No. As long as we've earned it or are currently doing
> > something worth critisizing, be my guest. Actually, I wish
>
> > you would. Be my guest, that is. But you never call.
> *sigh*
> >
> > >
> > > And you think it's unfair to blame Route 81 for those
> > > anti-abortion spots? Get real! Those were the most
> > > tasteless things I ever heard on the radio - the audio
> > > equivalent of anti-abortion protesters sticking pictures
>
> > of
> > > aborted fetuses in people's face. Those spots were
> enough
> >
> > > to make me nostalgic for the Fairness Doctrine.
> >
> > I've actually never even heard them first hand and that's
> my
> > point. They've been gone for quite a while now, move on.
> >
> > >
> > > You "flame" people and organizations on your program.
> If
> > > you can't take it, don't dish it out.
> >
> > Yes I do, but in my world everyone knows my name and where
>
> > to find me.
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Like the '06 Eagles...no defense intended. Just
> thought
> > > that
> > > > of all the owners, 'Cheap' Channel being one (though
> > they
> > > > never treated me cheaply, but I digress...), it seems
> > > > formulaic to take a shot at route 81. Oh well, at
> least
> > > > we're not still getting blamed for those Pro-Life
> spots.
> >
> > > > Guess I should take what I can get. BTW... what does
> > > > everyone here think of the law W. signed on Monday
> about
> >
> > > > anonymous flaming online? Just curious.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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bierkenstock
Guest
Giving the devil his due
In all fairness, IMHO flipping from adult standards to talk in the Harrisburg market sounds like a valid business decision. That said, talk formats do take time to establish themselves and the new management might well have given their talk format more time to do. I have no inside information but some former Adult Standards stations have caved to geezer protests ("heck no, we won't go"). If that's the case here, it's a heck of a way to run a station. I think the tack Joe is taking in Coatesville, with a LOCAL morning show, and advice and lifestyle talk the rest of the day, might have made sense in Harrisburg as well; certainly more sense than putting third rate syndicated hosts up against stronger competition on established talk stations.
PS: Joe, I'd call but Joe Hawk is such a tough act to follow.
And I'd recommend you did a couple of those "abortion is evil" out of the archives and listen. In a way they were well produced and powerful stuff but you might also understand why they have left such a lasting bad taste in some people's mouths. If the purpose of these spots was to shock and inflame, they succeeded.
> > No. As long as we've earned it or are currently doing
> > something worth critisizing, be my guest.
>
> WHYL earning two consecutive 0.4 12+ ratings is what I call
> "earning it," especially after the hype it got on this
> message board. Route 81 is the Tampa Bay Devil Rays of
> Harrisburg radio.
>
In all fairness, IMHO flipping from adult standards to talk in the Harrisburg market sounds like a valid business decision. That said, talk formats do take time to establish themselves and the new management might well have given their talk format more time to do. I have no inside information but some former Adult Standards stations have caved to geezer protests ("heck no, we won't go"). If that's the case here, it's a heck of a way to run a station. I think the tack Joe is taking in Coatesville, with a LOCAL morning show, and advice and lifestyle talk the rest of the day, might have made sense in Harrisburg as well; certainly more sense than putting third rate syndicated hosts up against stronger competition on established talk stations.
PS: Joe, I'd call but Joe Hawk is such a tough act to follow.
And I'd recommend you did a couple of those "abortion is evil" out of the archives and listen. In a way they were well produced and powerful stuff but you might also understand why they have left such a lasting bad taste in some people's mouths. If the purpose of these spots was to shock and inflame, they succeeded.
> > No. As long as we've earned it or are currently doing
> > something worth critisizing, be my guest.
>
> WHYL earning two consecutive 0.4 12+ ratings is what I call
> "earning it," especially after the hype it got on this
> message board. Route 81 is the Tampa Bay Devil Rays of
> Harrisburg radio.
>
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