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1070--Is Anyone Minding the Store??

No, I disagree, and I believe you'll see the apathy toward the end product grow even more as radio companies are either taken private from within like Jeff Smulyan tried with Emmis, or they are purchased by private (non-broadcast) investors as was the case with Clear Channel. Private ownership actually reduces the oversight and watchdogs of Wall Street, thus allowing the owners even more freedom to strip down the properties to their bare bones-or less-to boost the bottom line. The problem with paying millions and billions to buy these companies is that someone somewhere always wants to make back their money at any cost.
 
Ann Tenna said:
The problem with paying millions and billions to buy these companies is that someone somewhere always wants to make back their money at any cost.
Whether it's a bank or a radio station, you don't wanna work there after a purchase...for the exact reason quoted above. You'll either be given the boot or be expected to do more work for less pay in a low morale environment. Shame that it's come to this...not just in radio.
 
Bought a couch at an Indy jigly visible furniture store. Warranty on the leather. Couch and all the living room set are loosing the leather. Store could care less.

Every business is looking like the example of bad radio
stations these days. Bob has a point.

I see the change from Mom and Pop ownership to what we have now a bad move because there is no direct contact between on air and ownership depsite the FCC Rules and Licensee oversight.

In the opast we had some really bad radio greed issues. Ever hear of the Goat Gland implants promoted heavily on a few clear channel stations? Well documented from the 1930's.

There will always be greed. When it becomes a way of doing business we're all in trouble. This is the reason for the dust bowl. Read Grapes Of Wrath. Corporations and Farming. Listen to Starship.

I have always said that disc jockeys were irrelevant to radio just as Soap Operas have become. The Golden Days are behind us.

Like the dust bowl farming recovered. We really need to look at the medium that covers the bird cage or dog cage to see where we can learn and recover.

When the Indianapolis Star became less relevant to young audiences they bought Nuvo. Fewer people read the newspaper than ever before but they still have the perception it's viable for businesses. They control the audience (by how many papers they print circulation day).

So, If we get rid of Aritron we can make up our own ratings....
 
Just fyi, the Star didn't buy Nuvo, they started their own 2nd paper, which is now called Indy.com, even though it is a hard printed copy. It's free.
 
And could they get rid of that annoying "top of the hour" tone? It's agonizing for the listener to hear that mess over the top of a program...or anytime for that matter. Can't a silent alarm be set?

But kudos for bringing back Colin Cowherd...that will be a 100% upgrade from "Tirico and Van Pelt"...who are never there together anyway, it seems.

And I think the 5:00 contest on Kravitz and Eddie has run its course...they'll never lose, and if they did, they probably should bring in a new co-host.
 
RDO said:
sullyman said:
...Kravitz and Eddie has run its course...

you're right.
On course? Did they ever even make it to the starting gate? What should have been a show that shut all the other up is a boring disaster. Kravitz would be a good guest on any sport talk show - but to co-host? Much like Bill Benner - great writer and had knack for getting people riled up, but as a host or co-host - NOPE!
 
ChiefEngineer said:
In the opast we had some really bad radio greed issues. Ever hear of the Goat Gland implants promoted heavily on a few clear channel stations? Well documented from the 1930's.
From the recent Paul Harvey tribute, Paul admitted he started at KVOO because the previous owner was involved in this, and then fled to Mexico when the authorities began investigating. The new owners wanted to move the station to a new city, and they were trying to lose money to justify the move to the FCC (or maybe the Federal Radio Commission at that time). They put him on the air thinking he would lose listeners, but he didn't. And now, you know.... the Rest of the story.
 
Saturday March 14th, 7:50am-7:55am...silence. So the silence sensor kicks in at five minutes? I assume all automated stations have a silence sensor, yes?

Please don't think I just hang on the radio 24/7 waiting for the station to screw up. I listen at totally random times, and generally not for protracted periods. I worked until 2am or so last night and had to get up at 7:45 this morning so had the alarm set to play 1070.

I do confess to having a long but largely unstructured workday and erratic sleep habits, and I freely admit to being a lover of talk radio and AM radio. (aside to BobOnTheJob...I've been away from ham radio for 18-19 years...I'm hoping 10 meters opens again soon...got AM ready to go!!) So I just wonder how this can continue...it's nine months or so now.

I won't post any more "reports," as I don't want to seem like I am piling on. I know some problems occur at random, but all this has seemed to be beyond random. Haven't heard another double-feed recently, though.

BTW, I have really learned a lot from all of you here. I'm not in the industry but am very interested in it. Thanks to all of you who post here!!

Jim
 
snorlax said:
Saturday March 14th, 7:50am-7:55am...silence. So the silence sensor kicks in at five minutes? I assume all automated stations have a silence sensor, yes?

Please don't think I just hang on the radio 24/7 waiting for the station to screw up. I listen at totally random times, and generally not for protracted periods. I worked until 2am or so last night and had to get up at 7:45 this morning so had the alarm set to play 1070.


I won't post any more "reports," as I don't want to seem like I am piling on. I know some problems occur at random, but all this has seemed to be beyond random. Haven't heard another double-feed recently, though.

My guess is it had something to do with the 1070 transmitter having to switch over from night pattern to day pattern (got hung up on something). Power change for this time of year is around 7:45 I think. Did you hear a dead carrier or other stations on the frequency?

The silence sensor kicks in far earlier than 5 minutes...and that is why I think it may be something else.

AudioVault, if correctly programmed, is a very reliable system. If not programmed correctly it is as bad as minimum wage board operator trying to mate with someone from a sister station's request line. (that was me 30+ years ago)
 
11south said:
My guess is it had something to do with the 1070 transmitter having to switch over from night pattern to day pattern (got hung up on something). Power change for this time of year is around 7:45 I think. Did you hear a dead carrier or other stations on the frequency?

The silence sensor kicks in far earlier than 5 minutes...and that is why I think it may be something else.

AudioVault, if correctly programmed, is a very reliable system. If not programmed correctly it is as bad as minimum wage board operator trying to mate with someone from a sister station's request line. (that was me 30+ years ago)

I had suspected that, but discounted it because the carrier seemed to be constant before and after (and I am not near the xmtr)... Perhaps reconsideration is in order for me. I tried to catch an ID beneath the carrier, but couldn't.
Had I been listening on one of my Hammarlunds, the S-Meter would have told the tale :D
 
Well, there was a half-hour (at least) marathon today of dual-feeding.

While I was trying to get NCAA info from the Kincaid show, an unceasing reel of commercials was running as well.
It started around 8:15 this morning (Sunday 22) and is still goin' strong as of 8:45. Seems to have quit at 8:55 or so

Yes, I *DID* say I wasn't going to give any more "reports", but:
1. This is about the worst one I have heard so far, and
2. I am puzzled why the situation seems gets worse instead of better...or why it continues to exist--other than apathy or incompetence.

AGAIN: I listen only at random times of the day; I do not "have it out" for the station and I have nothing whatsoever to do with the industry, though I do have an interest in customer service and try to train people to provide it.
 
It's the "state of radio" today.

Not enough staff, and the staff that is working is overworked, underpaid, under-qualified and just plain don't care or don't know (under-qualified).

Nobody has the fire anymore to make great sounding radio. Where is the "tireless effort"?
 
RDO said:
It's the "state of radio" today.

Not enough staff, and the staff that is working is overworked, underpaid, under-qualified and just plain don't care or don't know (under-qualified).

Nobody has the fire anymore to make great sounding radio. Where is the "tireless effort"?

RDO, that's the million-dollar question, in radio and everywhere else. As I might have mentioned earlier, I am an educator. I spend an ever-increasing part of my time trying to get college students simply to CARE about their work....caring is a major part of success.

Snorlax.
 
snorlax said:
I spend an ever-increasing part of my time trying to get college students simply to CARE about their work....caring is a major part of success.
Amen brother.
 
>>While I was trying to get NCAA info from the Kincaid show, an unceasing reel of commercials was running as well.
It started around 8:15 this morning (Sunday 22) and is still goin' strong as of 8:45. Seems to have quit at 8:55 or so>>

Maybe there's just nobody working anymore. We've hit the bottom.
 
snorlax said:
Well, there was a half-hour (at least) marathon today of dual-feeding.

While I was trying to get NCAA info from the Kincaid show, an unceasing reel of commercials was running as well.
It started around 8:15 this morning (Sunday 22) and is still goin' strong as of 8:45. Seems to have quit at 8:55 or so

Yes, I *DID* say I wasn't going to give any more "reports", but:
1. This is about the worst one I have heard so far, and
2. I am puzzled why the situation seems gets worse instead of better...or why it continues to exist--other than apathy or incompetence.

AGAIN: I listen only at random times of the day; I do not "have it out" for the station and I have nothing whatsoever to do with the industry, though I do have an interest in customer service and try to train people to provide it.

I'm surprised you radio professionals havent heard about this yet-- its the newest concept in radio!

You know times are hard for us all right now, and we too in radio are facing hard economic times. But by broadcasting in AM stereo, we continue our stellar service to you, with all those bothersome commericals in the left channel, and the entertaining program broadcasting in the right channel.

Two! Two! Two hits in one!

A service of Double-MINT broadcasting. Where hit after hit after hit after hit applies to the commericals too!


SERIOUSLY, I wonder if those companies were charged for those commericals during that hour??
 
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