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>> >
> No argy back when you were in radio every one respected each
> other, no dj's screamed or puked, sales people weren't like
> Herb Tarleck, consultants new there places,pd's were all
> brimming with new format ideas that would revolutionize the
> industry, morning shows were perfect. and tomorrow at noon
> right at the statue in monument square a big giant pig will
> fly from my ass in honor of your years of perfect service.
> please biatch!

It's not necessary to arrange for this sort of tribute on my behalf...although you'd probably get plenty of press coverage from the paper, as well as the 4 local TV news affiliates? Rather than make yourself uncomfortable by inserting "Porky" inside your butt....why not re-read your comments above? There's plenty of PORK coming out of your mouth already!

argytunes


>
 
> > > > And with all due respect to Volleyball....I PLAYED
> RADIO
> >
> > > > (just like he's doing now) FOR A PERIOD OF 30+ YEARS!
>
> > The
> > >
> > > > only difference between then and now...was that on-air
>
> > > > people (which included pd's, jocks, and even
> > part-timers)
> > > > were allowed to bring up a programming suggestion
> > without
> > > > getting shot down by an outside consultant....or a
> > > smart-a**
> > > > sales person who claimed to know everything about how
> > > radio
> > > > should sound?
> > >
> > > I can only speak from my personal experience, but I have
>
> > > never once felt any of my suggestions were not
> > legitimately
> > > considered. In fact my PD even seeks out the
> suggestions
> > of
> > > his staff on a weekly basis. The difference is I don't
> > whine
> > > about it if my suggestion doesn't go through. I think
> you
> >
> > > are generalizing again Argy, just regurgitating the same
>
> > > bitterness you always do.
> > >
> > > Jeff Parsons
> > >
> > No argy back when you were in radio every one respected
> each
> > other, no dj's screamed or puked, sales people weren't
> like
> > Herb Tarleck, consultants new there places,pd's were all
> > brimming with new format ideas that would revolutionize
> the
> > industry, morning shows were perfect. and tomorrow at noon
>
> > right at the statue in monument square a big giant pig
> will
> > fly from my ass in honor of your years of perfect service.
>
> > please biatch!
> >
>
> The pig, however, will be sponsored!

CORRECT! I'll bet one of the country stations (maybe WPOR or WTHT) has a "Jimmy Dean Connection" in this area? I've never forgotten the slogan: "you can't spell "pork" without 'por'!!!"

argytunes
>
 
> >
> > and will the flying pig be sponsored by a nice, local,
> > original thinking
> > Maine concern? or by some out-of-state,
> > corporately-consulted consortium?
> >
> > just wonderin'.
> >
>
> Jolly John...a nice, local, original thinking Maine concern

Actually...my choice would be IRA (the spokesperson for Weirs Motor Sales in Arundel).....his on-air TV commericials usually make reference to a holiday or a special event!

argytunes
 
the legend wrote:
"(i am) a broadcast professional who can tell the difference between good radio and crap....who ISN'T being paid by ANY RADIO GROUP..."

it's worth pointing out here that a broadcast professional is actually someone who IS being paid by a radio group... hence the term PROFESSIONAL.



>
>
> And YOU, JEFF....are being a bit too "oversensitive and
> perhaps a little too defensive"---as you USUALLY ARE---when
> anybody makes a negative comment! My remarks aren't
> intended to "whine about the good ole' days of radio!" They
> come from a broadcast professional who can tell the
> difference between good radio and crap....who ISN'T being
> paid by ANY RADIO GROUP...to offer compliments about poor
> programming.
>
> Unfortunately...you don't have this option since it's not
> politically correct to "bite the hand that feeds you!"
>
> argytunes
>
 
> >> >
> > No argy back when you were in radio every one respected
> each
> > other, no dj's screamed or puked, sales people weren't
> like
> > Herb Tarleck, consultants new there places,pd's were all
> > brimming with new format ideas that would revolutionize
> the
> > industry, morning shows were perfect. and tomorrow at noon
>
> > right at the statue in monument square a big giant pig
> will
> > fly from my ass in honor of your years of perfect service.
>
> > please biatch!
>
> It's not necessary to arrange for this sort of tribute on my
> behalf...although you'd probably get plenty of press
> coverage from the paper, as well as the 4 local TV news
> affiliates? Rather than make yourself uncomfortable by
> inserting "Porky" inside your butt....why not re-read your
> comments above? There's plenty of PORK coming out of your
> mouth already!
>
> argytunes
>
>
> >
>
well i guess a little pork outta the mouth is better thanthe CRAP that usually spews from yours. for the love of god please get over yourself you self inflated ego maniac.
 
> the legend wrote:
> "(i am) a broadcast professional who can tell the difference
> between good radio and crap....who ISN'T being paid by ANY
> RADIO GROUP..."
>
> it's worth pointing out here that a broadcast professional
> is actually someone who IS being paid by a radio group...
> hence the term PROFESSIONAL.

But in order to stay employed, are YOU required to respond the way a radio station (or group) expects you to? I'm willing to bet there are several "broadcast professionals" who are currently being paid for on-air work...not to mention writing or production...that KNOW a programming idea or concept WON'T BE SUCCESSFUL, but are too chicken to bring the subject up?

The reason YOU aren't permitted to say anything nasty (or honest) concerning your company is because you're receiving a paycheck from them. I'M NOT! And like anybody else who contributes to this (and some of the other boards), I'm just expressing one man's opinion. This doesn't mean anybody has to agree with it?

Just cool it with "the legend" crap....okay? That comment wasn't necessary.

If you're sincerely interested in discussing a few potential programming possibilities for the market, I'll be happy to talk with you one-on-one. But let's try and keep the comments the 2 of us exchange with each other in the future "on a higher level"...okay??

argytunes
 
>
> well i guess a little pork outta the mouth is better thanthe
> CRAP that usually spews from yours. for the love of god
> please get over yourself you self inflated ego maniac.
>


I guess you and I have different definitions when it comes to the word: CRAP. Judging from some of your previous comments, you certainly have spewed out "more than YOUR share!"

Calling me names won't solve the problem(s) that are currently present at a lot of radio stations right now. Recognizing the ones that exist and making an honest attempt to correct them might???

I guess it comes down to whether YOU (or anybody) who has a 'broadcast connection' wants to address them....or take the easier route....and IGNORE THEM?

argytunes
 
> And YOU, JEFF....are being a bit too "oversensitive and
> perhaps a little too defensive"-

No...it's just if I stop making posts like this, I'm afraid you won't have anything to rant about that's all.

Although, come to think of it, it's really the same rant over and over, so never mind. I'll go back to concentrating on earning my paycheck from the people who have no idea what they are doing and who I wouldn't dare make a suggestion to to fix all the problems. I'll leave it to them to realize the error of their ways and rush to the phone to give you a call. Then we can all celebrate as we usher in the new era of Argy-Radio. ;)

Jeff Parsons
 
> > And YOU, JEFF....are being a bit too "oversensitive and
> > perhaps a little too defensive"-
>
> No...it's just if I stop making posts like this, I'm afraid
> you won't have anything to rant about that's all.
>
> Although, come to think of it, it's really the same rant
> over and over, so never mind. I'll go back to concentrating
> on earning my paycheck from the people who have no idea what
> they are doing and who I wouldn't dare make a suggestion to
> to fix all the problems. I'll leave it to them to realize
> the error of their ways and rush to the phone to give you a
> call. Then we can all celebrate as we usher in the new era
> of Argy-Radio. ;)
>
> Jeff Parsons

Jeff...

It's rather sad to see a "professional programmer" (who I actually have some respect for) pick on me---instead of "picking apart the problems" at the radio station(s) he works for? After all, I'm not the one getting paid the "big bucks" to do the job of making YOUR product desirable to advertisers and listeners.......YOU ARE!

I can only guess that my 'ranting' must have struck a nerve or two? Otherwise, you (and perhaps a few of your competitors) would SERIOUSLY LISTEN TO WHAT YOUR RADIO STATIONS ARE PUMPING OUT? Throwing 'verbal bricks' at me won't improve anybody's on-air product.

As I indicated to spankenstein (below)...I'd be very happy to talk with a PD who is seriously interested in trying out a new idea or two in this market. However, I honestly can't see the purpose of sharing a format or special type of programming with (presumably) broadcast professionals...who are only interested in 'cheapening the idea'...especially if they're already convinced that all I do is complain about the way their stations sound?

Just my 2 cents...for whatever their worth:

If a radio station has a crappy playlist or if the majority of your listeners aren't into the music ....SHAKE THINGS UP AND MAKES SOME CHANGES! If your on-air personalities don't communicate well with the listeners a station is attempting to reach...DROP THE BAD ONES & HIRE BETTER COMMUNICATORS! If you want to increase your audience (and not solely based a desired age demographic a consultant says you MUST HAVE)...GIVE YOUR LISTENERS A LITTLE LESS CLUTTER (a.k.a. shorter commercial stopsets). ALSO...GIVE THEM A FEW "REAL REASONS" TO LISTEN! [With all the choices a listener has, the 'I only listen to one radio station' loyalty days are history].

By making a few alternations, your advertisers (old and new) will eventually realize they're getting a helluva lot more for the dollars they're spending. And if they're getting more responds to their ads, would your sales manager be terribly upset if an advertiser wanted to INCREASE a 'spot buy' with your station?

While you (and others) can joke all you want to about "argy radio"---most of the people who have worked with me know that I've always felt there's room for improvement. So the work I've done (whether on-air or off) has to be MY BEST...and if it isn't...I'll try to make it better. Just sitting in front of a microphone and babbling....or 'banging out a spot and getting it on the air' has never been enough for me.

I admit that it's pretty difficult to put out a consistantly good product ALL THE TIME. But whether a 'professional' (like yourself) wants to try is another story? Granted...it's tougher to tackle existing problems at any radio station and eventually correct them.

Especially when so many local broadcasters would rather pretend that they don't actually exist?

I'll leave you alone now.....

argytunes
 
> Jeff...
>
> It's rather sad to see a "professional programmer" (who I
> actually have some respect for) pick on me---instead of
> "picking apart the problems" at the radio station(s) he
> works for?

Granted. I agree my last few posts were a bit uncalled for, and I apologize for that.

> I can only guess that my 'ranting' must have struck a nerve
> or two?

It only struck a nerve with me becuase I honestly don't see the same problems you do. I'm like any person in my field. I want to do the best job I can to deliver the best product to our listeners. I feel that I am doing everthing in my power to do that, and with a decent amount of success. I'll stick with it for as long as that success continues.

Don't get me wrong, radio has problems that it needs to overcome. For example, this business has totally dropped the ball on digital radio and had the rug pulled out from under it by sattelite radio. Imagine every FM station having more than one channel. The possiblities there are endless. At least one station in town has gone the digital route, but unfortunately unless we all do the same so the radios get manufactured, it isn't much use.

Back to the topic at hand though. Argy, as of now I don't know you from a hole in the ground. The impression you leave with people on this board though is that you are an angry, out of work, former jock who thinks everything with the business is wrong and no one cares to fix it. I'm sure that's not an accurate description of you. It's also not an accurate description of Portland radio.

I think it is unfair to say that any person in the business is too much of a kiss up to say that anything is wrong. In my opinion it's not wrong, it's different. I too prefer the days of locally owned radio, they were some of the best (and worst) times in my radio career. That's not the world we live in now though, so I've adapted. If that makes me a corporate kiss ass, so be it. I do what I do to put food on the table, and luckily I get to do something I love doing. Not everyone can honestly say that.

You've got good intentions Argy, I just think that they aren't communciated well on this board. From now on though, I'll be happy to politely debate the issues with you.

Jeff Parsons
 
> Back to the topic at hand though. Argy, as of now I don't
> know you from a hole in the ground. The impression you
> leave with people on this board though is that you are an
> angry, out of work, former jock who thinks everything with
> the business is wrong and no one cares to fix it. I'm sure
> that's not an accurate description of you. It's also not an
> accurate description of Portland radio.

Contrary to what you might believe, Jeff....I'm not ANGRY at everybody! Nor do I think everything connected with the business is wrong and no one cares to fix it! I make my remarks based on scanning the dial and hearing some INCREDIBLY BAD RADIO STATIONS in this market! This doesn't mean EVERY ONE OF THEM falls under the "INCREDIBLY BAD RADIO" category!

I may take issue with you (or someone else) regarding image liners, bad or long-winded commercials, jocks that are talking AT a listener (as opposed to the ones who know how to talk TO A LISTENER), or some other form of radio station hype....but the opinions are strictly mine. They don't have to be believed or agreed with.
>
> I think it is unfair to say that any person in the business
> is too much of a kiss up to say that anything is wrong. In
> my opinion it's not wrong, it's different.

Now Jeff...let's be HONEST here. You've got people on your staff that will NEVER tell you how they feel about your format! Who wants to risk losing their job by opening his (or her) mouth?

I too prefer the
> days of locally owned radio, they were some of the best (and
> worst) times in my radio career. That's not the world we
> live in now though, so I've adapted.

Do you think your 'radio product' has improved? Or gotten worse? We both know that 'downsizing' has saved a lot of money when it comes to talent, station personnel and equipment...but does that make a radio station sound better???

If that makes me a
> corporate kiss ass, so be it. I do what I do to put food on
> the table, and luckily I get to do something I love doing.
> Not everyone can honestly say that.

That's true. My "kiss ass remark" was directed more toward the people who work under your supervision.
>
> You've got good intentions Argy, I just think that they
> aren't communciated well on this board. From now on though,
> I'll be happy to politely debate the issues with you.

Fair enough. And if you ever wish to communicate with me one-to-one, I'll be happy to do this as well. erielackawanna or valhallafred can tell you how to reach me.
>
> Jeff Parsons/ARGYTUNES
>
 
> Contrary to what you might believe, Jeff....I'm not ANGRY at
> everybody! Nor do I think everything connected with the
> business is wrong and no one cares to fix it!

I don't believe that Argy, but that's how you come across in your posts that's all.
>
> I may take issue with you (or someone else) regarding image
> liners, bad or long-winded commercials, jocks that are
> talking AT a listener (as opposed to the ones who know how
> to talk TO A LISTENER), or some other form of radio station
> hype....but the opinions are strictly mine. They don't have
> to be believed or agreed with.

True, which is why I voice why I don't agree with your opinions.

> Now Jeff...let's be HONEST here. You've got people on your
> staff that will NEVER tell you how they feel about your
> format! Who wants to risk losing their job by opening his
> (or her) mouth?

Again I can only speak from my own experience with my employer, but I would wager that MOST of our staff would, and some have, express/expressed how they feel about our format. I've done it myself, and so have others with no fear of losing a job. Our management isn't that closed minded to not accept constructive criticism or suggestion.

> Do you think your 'radio product' has improved? Or gotten
> worse?

Improved. Is it perfect? No. But if it was, then you don't need to work at it anymore. If I look at our station 10 years ago when it signed on and now, I see a lot of improvement. Our pervious owners took a chance on a format that everyone said wouldn't work, and we've made it work.W e've managed to hold our own with a format that has not been kind to us musically in recent years. The quality of new music is severely lacking.

> >My "kiss ass remark" was directed more toward
> the people who work under your supervision.

I assume you mean "your" as in a PD in general and not me specifically, as I have no one under my supervision.

> Fair enough. And if you ever wish to communicate with me
> one-to-one, I'll be happy to do this as well.

The same goes for you. I think you can find a way to get a hold of me easily enough.

Jeff Parsons
 
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